I see your points 85 and agree with them somewhat . It's just that the whole process has become something way different than intended . It's all about politicians doing what's best for them
SCOTUS Justice Antonin Scalia Has Passed Away
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This is why R's in the Senate are critical now.
There's no doubt that Obama is going to nominate some zealot that believes in the deliberate misinterpretation of the 2nd Amendment.
There's no doubt that Obama is going to nominate some zealot that believes in the deliberate misinterpretation of the 2nd Amendment.
I also would say that while I agree people may not be " smart " enough to pick a justice what qualifies those same people to elect a President ?
Facebook is telling me who to vote for.
Actually they only tell you who NOT to vote for. I never see a coherent thought on why their own candidate is qualified, just why the opposition sucks, is stupid etc
Okay, Schumer is a dildo.
But, his comments were hypothetical, and not advocating our country go more than a year without a Supreme Court Justice because he had a case of the butthurt...all while Scalia's body was still warm.
McConnell and Cruz, the two most vocal Republicans commenting on this issue so far, are raging dildos who only care about the Constitution when it suits their needs.
Not a single concrete piece of evidence. No quotes. No links. Nothing.
Typical.
Ah, but this is a fallacy. People don't elect a president, the Electoral College does. The only thing people vote on is which political party gets to choose those electors.
LOL! Hypothetical? The guy was outright demanding that no more Bush nominees even be considered, with 7 additional months left in his tenure than Obama has today.
It's unbelievable the lengths you'll go to in order to cry about Republicans and blow Democrats.
If voting mattered, they wouldn't let us do it.
Politics definitely satisfies my Hollywood movie want.
Everyone should hit up opensecrets.org - it's hilarious how much cheddar is spent on candidates we the people do not want (Bush & Clinton).
Yes, Copernicus, a hypothetical. There was no judicial opening at the time. A "what-if" scenario. That is what a "hypothetical" is. Not 10 minutes after a Justice actually kicks the bucket.
Congressmen, the Prez, and Judges are lawyers first and deserve no more respect than any other citizen, and probably have earned less respect. Any law abiding person who is not a total a.. deserves people to act with some decorum.
I personally thought he was the best justice on the court.
I personally thought he was the best justice on the court.
Oh so it just doesn't count. Isn't the Reagan era still cited as the golden age for the GOP and a source of direction for many within the party still to this day? But all of a sudden that SCOTUS situation doesn't count?
It's stupid to bring it up because we both know that the situation would play out exactly as it is right now regardless of the party in power. If you want to fool yourself and believe that your party is better than that then feel free, I used to do that too when i was a naive party follower a decade ago. I've learned that it doesn't matter and both parties are full of massive hypocrites.
Wahh!!!!!!!!! Ted Cruz is threatening to filibuster Obama's SC pick even though Obama filibustered Alito in 2006. WAHH!!!!!!!!
It's delicious irony watching a group of people cry over the Senate's choice when this is the same group of people that slammed through Obamacare via Reconciliation without having read the document, and the same people who voted in 2013 to strip the Minority Party of all rights to filibuster or hold any power whatsoever.
Payback is a bitch. STFU and go cry elsewhere.
It's delicious irony watching a group of people cry over the Senate's choice when this is the same group of people that slammed through Obamacare via Reconciliation without having read the document, and the same people who voted in 2013 to strip the Minority Party of all rights to filibuster or hold any power whatsoever.
Payback is a bitch. STFU and go cry elsewhere.
However, unfortunately for McConnell, Oliver and his team dug up a little speech the Senator gave when the Democrats where attempting to do the same thing for lower court appointments under then-President George W. Bush:
"Our democratic colleagues continually talk about the so-called 'Thurmond Rule,' under which the Senate supposedly stops confirming judges in a presidential election year," McConnell announced. "This seeming obsession with this rule that doesn't exist is just an excuse for our colleagues to run out the clock on qualified nominees who are waiting to fill badly needed vacancies."
"Our democratic colleagues continually talk about the so-called 'Thurmond Rule,' under which the Senate supposedly stops confirming judges in a presidential election year," McConnell announced. "This seeming obsession with this rule that doesn't exist is just an excuse for our colleagues to run out the clock on qualified nominees who are waiting to fill badly needed vacancies."
And here is the problem with politics and government.
This is an absolute fallacy. Our Declaration and Constitution were both written during times that the Founding Fathers were essentially insulting each other to no end and making deals behind each others' backs. Most of them absolutely hated each other at the time of debating to declare independence.
It worked fine. The idea of everyone working together in harmony terrifies me; it means there's a singular method to screw everyone else over.
You can absolutely hate each other, the thought that "well you did it to us so now it's our turn neener neener" is what's wrong with politics. If something was wrong when someone else did it to you then you shouldn't be a whiney little bitch and do it back to them. But instead let's all pretend that it really makes a difference because we have a R or a D next to our names.
It makes a big difference. R stands for right and rich. D stands for dumbass and dolt.
I don't have a party for exactly those reasons either. It's just we have factual evidence that in the situation described, Democrats did not stall the process and chose to confirm what is considered a competent and capable justice.
Here you have sitting political leaders, before even knowing who the candidate is and literally hours after knowing of the vacancy, declaring they will block anyone and everyone no matter what and handicap the SCOTUS for well over a year simply because they don't like the president and feel it would be "overreaching" for him to nominate someone. Obstruction has been the name of the game. Even though precedent supports an opposite party president successfully nominating someone in their final year of their final term.
One criticism is over a hypothetical that does not exist. The other actually is happening.
That was 30 years ago and Reagan was a uniter and worked with Dems in Congress. Obama has done everything in his power to alienate and avoid working with the GOP for seven years. If the tables were turned the Dems would be doing to same thing.
Are you serious? How do you work with people who's stated goal is to make you fail? He could propose Republican ideas and they would oppose him.
Congress is gonna Congress. Ultimately the president has no power there. This Congress has been among the least liked and least productive. And it's due to GOP/Tea Party obstruction. And pushing harmful ideologies upon the population. I think the fact that a person like Donald Trump is in serious contention to win a major party nomination is proof positive the GOP as a whole is functionally deficient.
But I guess we'll find out either way come November.
Wow, what a load of incorrect nonsense.
First, I didn't know people still cry about the Tea Party. Wasn't that soooo 2010?
Second, the dislike of Congress began way before the R's were in power. That's probably why, you know, they were voted into power in 2010 and have been voted in to remain in power ever since? And which "harm ideologies" are they pushing on people? Reduced spending? Fixing the disasterous parts of Obamacare?
Trump is only in serious contention so long as 7 other candidates split the anti-Trump vote. If they can get the non hackers out and get the anti-Trump vote around 1-2 guys, he is done. His top line of support is maxed out around 30-32%. That would be annihilated if he were facing just 1 other guy.
By the way, you present yourself as an independent but it's blatantly clear that you have a slant and bias. nice try.
Please list these harmful ideologies. Are you talking about cutting taxes? Cutting deficit spending? Entitlement reform? Immigration reform?
And uuuuuhhhhhhhhhhh Bernie Sanders...
Well the GOP acts like Democrats & vice versa in a lot ways. Bush all bout moar gov't & welfare (to banks & automakers).
Obama continued to endless pointless dîcking around in other countries militarily getting our "friends" arms to fûck shit up, kept on spying & originally a gay marriage hater.
But "please clap" for the idea that these political parties are different.
Have there been any reports on who the front runners are? I assume Obama will get his guy in there sooner than later.
Nah just naive. He believed they really would close the border enough to stop the in flow. That didn't happen.
That depends on the senate, all they have to do is run out the clock. If Obama was smart he would nominate a moderate senator for the job. It would be much harder for Senate to say no, and a moderate replacing a conservative is moving left. My guess is he will nominate a far left wing nut, and lose any chance at a win for progressives.
Reading a lot about Loretta Lynch possibly being the pick. Just depends if he wants to try and rally liberals by picking someone who doesn't stand a chance or going with a moderate that some Republicans support.
He's already declared that he won't nominate a moderate, thus his whining about the Republicans is moot to begin with. You can't complain about people not wanting to enter into a process when your intention is to nominate someone that has absolutely no shot to begin with. It's all worthless theater at this point. It also validates the contention that there's no point in having hearings if he's just going to nominate some left wing zealot that doesn't stand a prayer of being confirmed.
STFU. No one around here has made fun of his passing. Not one of my looney tune communist friends has made fun of his passing. QUIT POSTING DRUNK AND DREAMING THAT YOU COULD HAVE STARRED IN SCHINDLER'S LIST.
Try going to a few meetings or something--seriously, you've got problems.
What IS funny is how the radical (er, Orthodox) Jews in Israel treat Christians who dare to wonder into their neighborhoods and talk to them.
Remove the funny hats and you'd swear you're in Tehran.
Remove the funny hats and you'd swear you're in Tehran.
