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So, what's your favorite bit of USAID fraud?

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Mine?

- $47,000 for a "transgender opera" in Colombia.
- $32,000 for a "transgender comic book" in Peru.
- $2 million for sex changes and "LGBT activism" in Guatemala.

- $2.5 million for electric vehicles in Vietnam, which resulted in the construction of just one battery station, showcasing a minimal impact for the funds invested.

- $3 million for "girl-centered climate action" in Brazil, criticized for being too niche and potentially not directly contributing to broader development goals.

- Scholarship Programs:
- $45 million for a "diversity and inclusion" scholarship in Burma
 
None of that is fraud, they are just things you disagree with. And for the record, I certainly don't agree with most/all of those either, but that doesn't make it fraud. Cleaning up some of these agencies is fine, but throwing the baby out with the bath water is not something I agree with or something that is going to end up being a good thing.
 
Cubs79 said:
None of that is fraud, they are just things you disagree with. And for the record, I certainly don't agree with most/all of those either, but that doesn't make it fraud. Cleaning up some of these agencies is fine, but throwing the baby out with the bath water is not something I agree with or something that is going to end up being a good thing.
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Nah, using taxpayer money to fund this stuff isn't fraud at all.

Thank you for proving once again that you don't have a brain.
 
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KnighttimeJoe said:
Nah, using taxpayer money to fund this stuff isn't fraud at all.

Thank you for proving once again that you don't have a brain.
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Just because you don't like something doesn't make it fraud. You don't get to change the meaning of words as you see it.

I will also say (not necessarily the things you listed) that a lot of this stuff making the rounds on twitter with regards to this also appears to be bullshit.
 
Cubs79 said:
Just because you don't like something doesn't make it fraud. You don't get to change the meaning of words as you see it.

I will also say (not necessarily the things you listed) that a lot of this stuff making the rounds on twitter with regards to this also appears to be bullshit.
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Yes, using taxpayer money for the following is completely legit and we, the people paying for it should have absolutely to scream fraud:

- $47,000 for a "transgender opera" in Colombia.
- $32,000 for a "transgender comic book" in Peru.
- $2 million for sex changes and "LGBT activism" in Guatemala.

- $2.5 million for electric vehicles in Vietnam, which resulted in the construction of just one battery station, showcasing a minimal impact for the funds invested.

- $3 million for "girl-centered climate action" in Brazil, criticized for being too niche and potentially not directly contributing to broader development goals.

- Scholarship Programs:
- $45 million for a "diversity and inclusion" scholarship in Burma


Take a lap.
 
KnighttimeJoe said:
Yes, using taxpayer money for the following is completely legit and we, the people paying for it should have absolutely to scream fraud:

- $47,000 for a "transgender opera" in Colombia.
- $32,000 for a "transgender comic book" in Peru.
- $2 million for sex changes and "LGBT activism" in Guatemala.

- $2.5 million for electric vehicles in Vietnam, which resulted in the construction of just one battery station, showcasing a minimal impact for the funds invested.

- $3 million for "girl-centered climate action" in Brazil, criticized for being too niche and potentially not directly contributing to broader development goals.

- Scholarship Programs:
- $45 million for a "diversity and inclusion" scholarship in Burma


Take a lap.
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You obviously missed the part where I said I don't agree with it either, but that still doesn't make it fraud.
 
KnighttimeJoe said:
Yes it does. You can sit here all day and say no, but you are wrong.
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And you can sit here all day illustrating you don't know what the word 'fraud' means, but that doesn't make you right. But have at it.
 
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Cubs79 said:
And you can sit here all day illustrating you don't what the word 'fraud' means, but that doesn't make you right. But have at it.
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And you wonder why the people around here resort to calling you stupid. But you are adorable picking this hill to die on.

And on that note, 2 unsweet iced teas and we’re ready to order…
 
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And you wonder why the people around here resort to calling you stupid. But you are adorable picking this hill to die on.

And on that note, 2 unsweet iced teas and we’re ready to order…
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I assure you I could care less that someone who doesn't even know what fraud means calls me stupid. You're not exactly an intellectual giant yourself.

But hey, great call back to a joke that has never made any sense. Make sure you give yourself a gold star for that one lil fella.
 
Cubs79 said:
I assure you I could care less that someone who doesn't even know what fraud means calls me stupid. You're not exactly an intellectual giant yourself.

But hey, great call back to a joke that has never made any sense. Make sure you give yourself a gold star for that one lil fella.
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"I could care less"

So, you do care.

Lemme help you out since you reallllllly need it:

fraud
/frôd/

a person or thing intended to deceive others, typically by unjustifiably claiming or being credited with accomplishments or qualities.
"mediums exposed as tricksters and frauds"

www.foxbusiness.com

Ex-USAID official speaks out over alleged waste, fraud inside agency

A former U.S. Agency for International Development official says "the list goes on and on" of the alleged spending waste and fraud she experienced while working there.
www.foxbusiness.com www.foxbusiness.com

abcnews.go.com

Turmoil inside USAID as Musk calls the agency 'criminal' and says it 'has to die'

Amid ongoing turmoil inside the U.S. Agency for International Development, sources say that Department of Government Efficiency staffers have moved to take over offices.
abcnews.go.com abcnews.go.com

www.wired.com

The Collapse of USAID Is Already Fueling Human Trafficking and Slavery at Scammer Compounds

The dismantling of USAID by Elon Musk's DOGE and a State Department funding freeze have severely disrupted efforts to help people escape forced labor camps run by criminal scammers.
www.wired.com www.wired.com
 
KnighttimeJoe said:
"I could care less"

So, you do care.

Lemme help you out since you reallllllly need it:

fraud
/frôd/

a person or thing intended to deceive others, typically by unjustifiably claiming or being credited with accomplishments or qualities.
"mediums exposed as tricksters and frauds"

www.foxbusiness.com

Ex-USAID official speaks out over alleged waste, fraud inside agency

A former U.S. Agency for International Development official says "the list goes on and on" of the alleged spending waste and fraud she experienced while working there.
www.foxbusiness.com www.foxbusiness.com

abcnews.go.com

Turmoil inside USAID as Musk calls the agency 'criminal' and says it 'has to die'

Amid ongoing turmoil inside the U.S. Agency for International Development, sources say that Department of Government Efficiency staffers have moved to take over offices.
abcnews.go.com abcnews.go.com

www.wired.com

The Collapse of USAID Is Already Fueling Human Trafficking and Slavery at Scammer Compounds

The dismantling of USAID by Elon Musk's DOGE and a State Department funding freeze have severely disrupted efforts to help people escape forced labor camps run by criminal scammers.
www.wired.com www.wired.com
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And how was it deceiving? It was public record Just because you, me, and most people didn't bother to look doesn't mean that information wasn't accessible if we had just bothered to look.
 
Cubs79 said:
And how was it deceiving? It was public record Just because you, me, and most people didn't bother to look doesn't mean that information wasn't accessible if we had just bothered to look.
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Oh, if it's just public record, then why are all the lefties losing their minds over the uncovering of all this fraud?????????

If you haven't noticed yet, you're done.
 
KnighttimeJoe said:
Oh, if it's just public record, then why are all the lefties losing their minds over the uncovering of all this fraud?????????

If you haven't noticed yet, you're done.
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I don't think they are losing their minds over cutting spending on some of this stuff. Like I said, I have no issue what so ever cutting some of this stuff. I don't think the entire dept should be disbanded, and if it is it should be through congress not Elon, but getting rid of the waste is perfectly fine with me. Giving one guy the ability to get rid of whole depts with basically no oversight is what has people concerned, because that's not how this is supposed to work.
 
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Fraud is this. Fraud is paying $2million for a gay opera in Colombia and instead the money went to the Colombian cartel for weapons. That would be fraud. Abuse and waste is paying for a gay opera in Colombia . DOGE is going to ferret waste, fraud and abuse.
 
KnighttimeJoe said:
OMFG.
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Dude the issue isn't the spending on some of this stuff. Most people are ok cutting some of this stuff. The issue is that we have decided to let one guy and a group of kids make all these decisions with basically no oversight. USAID was a JFK thing that was approved by congress, and now one guy, who happens to be the largest govt contractor in the country, is just getting rid of a 60 year old dept basically by himself. If you don't see how that can be an issue I don't know what to tell you. This isn't how our government is supposed to work.
 
Cubs79 said:
Dude the issue isn't the spending on some of this stuff. Most people are ok cutting some of this stuff. The issue is that we have decided to let one guy and a group of kids make all these decisions with basically no oversight. USAID has was a JFK thing that was approved by congress, and now one guy, who happens to be the largest govt contractor in the country, is just getting rid of a 60 year old dept basically by himself. If you don't see how that can be an issue I don't know what to tell you. This isn't how our government is supposed to work.
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The vast majority of lefties haven't said an effing thing about this fraud. Zero. Zip. Nada.

They just go on and on about Elon.

Zero problem with Elon. Thankful for his service to the country.
 
KnighttimeJoe said:
The vast majority of lefties haven't said an effing thing about this fraud. Zero. Zip. Nada.

They just go on and on about Elon.

Zero problem with Elon. Thankful for his service to the country.
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So let me ask you then. Should we just get rid of the house? This is supposed to be their job but if we are just going to let Elon do it with no oversight then it seems like waste and 'fraud' to keep paying them, yes?
 
Cubs79 said:
So let me ask you then. Should we just get rid of the house? This is supposed to be their job but if we are just going to let Elon do it with no oversight then it seems like waste and 'fraud' to keep paying them, yes?
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Yeah, let's let the house investigate in many ways, themselves.

It just keeps getting worse:

 
Nice of Lauren Boebert to point this out, but she forgot to mention that her own office was paying a subscription for it.
 
KnighttimeJoe said:
No. Never said that.

I have no problem with Elon running this investigation, however.
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He is doing more than an investigating though, the dept literally doesn't appear to even exist at this point and he shouldn't have any authority what so ever in that regard. That is the thing I think you are missing. It's not people defending all of these programs, it's that our government was not designed for one person to have this much power, especially when he is doing it through a dept (doge) that isn't even a real dept.
 
Cubs79 said:
He is doing more than an investigating though, the dept literally doesn't appear to even exist at this point and he shouldn't have any authority what so ever in that regard. That is the thing I think you are missing. It's not people defending all of these programs, it's that our government was not designed for one person to have this much power, especially when he is doing it through a dept (doge) that isn't even a real dept.
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Nope, not missing it. And I have no problem with it.
 
Cubs79 said:
And you can sit here all day illustrating you don't know what the word 'fraud' means, but that doesn't make you right. But have at it.
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As a practicing CPA, it is fraud. A lack of traceability and prevalent bias falls directly under what auditors look for when uncovering fraudulent financial activity. You just don't like that word because you want to reserve it for anything related to President Trump's finances you misunderstand.

Will anyone go to jail over it? Of course not. Still fraud, just like Trump is still your President.
 
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thall_ said:
As a practicing CPA, it is fraud. A lack of traceability and prevalent bias falls directly under what auditors look for when uncovering fraudulent financial activity. You just don't like that word because you want to reserve it for anything related to President Trump's finances you misunderstand.

Will anyone go to jail over it? Of course not. Still fraud, just like Trump is still your President.
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Why do you think there was a lack of traceability?
 
thall_ said:
Great clip, I'm glad President Trump has the bravery to surround himself with diversity of thought.

Sure punches a hole in your "dUh MaGa CuLt" ramblings
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I mean Joe was just saying it's all fraud, but I guess you're ok with a fraudster having one of the highest positions in our government?
 
Cubs79 said:
I mean Joe was just saying it's all fraud, but I guess you're ok with a fraudster having one of the highest positions in our government?
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the guy who sent $100,000,000,000+ to ukraine thinks foreign aid is fraud? 🤣
Cubs79 said:
Its public record.
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the original documentation, authors, and proof of implementation is not public record.

i suggest looking up what traceability means, because i'm not the one to debate with on this issue.
 
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