Spent Some Time Looking at QB's in the Transfer Portal

[Shark19]

So was curious what and who was there. Here is a list of guys I want to throw out there using a narrow list of requirements, which are:

4* out of HS
At least 6' 2" (yes, my dream to get taller QBs)
Come from a P5 (most likely to get lost in a numbers game)
Has at least 2 years of eligibility
Isn't already projected to go somewhere else

Spencer Rattler - Not coming here
Jacob Zeno (Baylor) #8 pro style 2019
Harrison Bailey (Tenn) #3 pro style 2020 - Big arm
Jack Miller (Oh St) #13 pro style 2020
Chubba Purdy (FSU) #7 dual 2020

So obviously, the list is dominated by pro style guys....which is not what we think of in this offense. But looking at video, they all seem athletic enough.

 

[knight_01]

Honestly we might want to look at the kid from Arkansas state. We could go either way. The one from Georgia tech looks really good too.

 

[muckdawg24]

Weren't we recruiting Chubba?

 

[Poolside Knight]

 

[BlakNGoldAllDay]

Weren't we recruiting Chubba?

Yes but if he couldn’t play at FSU with the train wreck they had going on, not sure if he lights it up here. I’ve heard something about a transfer from Hawaii that Kinne coached. Cordeiro.

 

[Terrorizzertz]

Weren't we recruiting Chubba?

I know we were in on his brother Brock but he ended up going to Iowa St can't remember where we stood with Chubba.

No to Spencer Rattler and Jack Miller.

 

[U C to the F]

Yes but if he couldn’t play at FSU with the train wreck they had going on, not sure if he lights it up here. I’ve heard something about a transfer from Hawaii that Kinne coached. Cordeiro.

Chubba was hurt all of last year and this year Travis really came on. I wouldn’t discount him totally because a 3 year player was the starter.

 

[Shark19]

Yes but if he couldn’t play at FSU with the train wreck they had going on, not sure if he lights it up here. I’ve heard something about a transfer from Hawaii that Kinne coached. Cordeiro.

Purdy wasn't given much of a chance....would be great for us.

As far as Cordeiro, would work as a depth guy to fill up the QB room (assuming Jones, Brito, and Gatewood are finished) but won't solve anything:

2* class of 2018 (correction - has 2 years of eligibility, played in 4 games in 2018)
46 games (2 yr starter)
6,000 yrds, 45 TDs, 22 Int
1,100 yrds rushing, 13 TDs

 

[Shark19]

No to Jack Miller.

Not that we would have a chance, but why?

I would sell all of your souls to the usf devil to get Bailey though

 

[knight_tracker]

Not that we would have a chance, but why?

I would sell all of your souls to the usf devil to get Bailey though

If I recall correctly Bailey was very inaccurate with his deep passes and that was enough to bench him in Heuple's offense. Correction that was Milton that was replaced by Hooker. Did Bailey not play this year?

 

[Shark19]

If I recall correctly Bailey was very inaccurate with his deep passes and that was enough to bench him in Heuple's offense. Correction that was Milton that was replaced by Hooker. Did Bailey not play this year?

Threw for 600 yrds in 2020, but only 7 attempts in 1 game this year.

 

[Knightmare13]

Would rather just start Castellanos

 

[PhDee]

Weren't we recruiting Chubba?

He was a QB from Arizona, so yes, it made natural sense for Huep to recruit him.
He also played TE in middle school, which was a huge plus.

 

[UCFVanWilder]

Nebraska qb in the portal. I actually think he would be a great 1 year fix and fit gus

 

[BlakNGoldAllDay]

Chubba was hurt all of last year and this year Travis really came on. I wouldn’t discount him totally because a 3 year player was the starter.

Travis started the year, got yanked. Then KZ was tanking. Chubba would have been given a chance if he was serviceable, but apparently wasn’t.

 

[Shark19]

Travis started the year, got yanked. Then KZ was tanking. Chubba would have been given a chance if he was serviceable, but apparently wasn’t.

They also had Rodemaker in the mix.....I can see how Purdy got lost in the numbers game....he also just got there (was not a Jan enrollee).

 

[BlakNGoldAllDay]

They also had Rodemaker in the mix.....I can see how Purdy got lost in the numbers game....he also just got there (was not a Jan enrollee).

He’s a true freshman leaving? What are circumstances?

 

[hemightbejeremy]

Why narrow it to 4* QBs? Most of those guys that couldn’t latch on are busts. Would rather have a proven producer looking for a different situation than someone moving on because they couldn’t see the field. Regardless of the high school star rating.

 

[Shark19]

Why narrow it to 4* QBs? Most of those guys that couldn’t latch on are busts. Would rather have a proven producer looking for a different situation than someone moving on because they couldn’t see the field. Regardless of the high school star rating.

Still the best odds of success....

You are more than welcome to gather 2* guys you think are diamonds in the rough and post them here.

 

[hemightbejeremy]

Still the best odds of success....

You are more than welcome to gather 2* guys you think are diamonds in the rough and post them here.

The best odds of success are taking a proven performer that is less than 4* on paper like a DG over a 4 or 5 star that wasn’t good enough to see the field elsewhere like…say…a Joey Gatewood.

 

[Shark19]

He’s a true freshman leaving? What are circumstances?

Is actually a 2020 guy...I made a mistake on that upthread....he will be a redshirt Frosh next year (given the free COVID year). only played in 4 games over 2 years.

 

[Shark19]

The best odds of success are taking a proven performer that is less than 4* on paper like a DG over a 4 or 5 star that wasn’t good enough to see the field elsewhere like…say…a Joey Gatewood.

Dude, this is UCF....we aren't getting proven performers at high levels. Odds are, we get nothing on the list I made. I (and most of us here), would rather find a high star guy that got lost in the numbers of a P4 team.

 

[SCKnight]

For guys who have played at the college level don't you thin we can dispense with the star ratings? Not sure what relevance that has now

 

[hemightbejeremy]

Dude, this is UCF....we aren't getting proven performers at high levels. Odds are, we get nothing on the list I made. I (and most of us here), would rather find a high star guy that got lost in the numbers of a P4 team.

Based on your list, we got one last year.

 

[Shark19]

For guys who have played at the college level don't you thin we can dispense with the star ratings? Not sure what relevance that has now

The point is our best chance of success are with high potentials that hav'ent yet played much college ball

 

[Shark19]

Based on your list, we got one last year.

And now we know why it was so easy to get him. Gus thought he could work in his system....he was wrong. Doesn't mean it wasn't the right idea.

 

[SCKnight]

The point is our best chance of success are with high potentials that hav'ent yet played much college ball

Just dont see how star ratings mean anything. Either you were good enough to play or you were not. I think our recent QB transfers in Gatewood and Wimbush will show that we should not get excited about stars and look to what they have proven on the field. We don't need a 4 star QB who has not seen the field. We have MK who was seen the field bunch. We need someone who has experience in college and proven themselves no matter what the stars.

 

[Shark19]

Just dont see how star ratings mean anything. Either you were good enough to play or you were not. I think our recent QB transfers in Gatewood and Wimbush will show that we should not get excited about stars and look to what they have proven on the field. We don't need a 4 star QB who has not seen the field. We have MK who was seen the field bunch. We need someone who has experience in college and proven themselves no matter what the stars.

And how was Wimbush not successful on the field at ND?

And year over year, star ratings are proven accurate. Not perfect, but accurate.

OK, who would your transfer targets be?

 

[hemightbejeremy]

And how was Wimbush not successful on the field at ND?

And year over year, star ratings are proven accurate. Not perfect, but accurate.

OK, who would your transfer targets be?

He was benched for a better guy. The cows recently got a 5 star too. Biff Barnett. Can’t miss stud. Top player in the class but for some reason wasn’t playing at his old school. Turns out it was because he was terrible.

 

[Shark19]

He was benched for a better guy. The cows recently got a 5 star too. Biff Barnett. Can’t miss stud. Top player in the class but for some reason wasn’t playing at his old school. Turns out it was because he was terrible.

So you're doing a bunch of complaining....but what is your proposed solution?

Heupel made a bold decision to start a guy with a higher ceiling....and more socks.

 

[Gwoz]

Generally any guys that had good success with experience and looking for a new environment is not looking on the G5 level.

Also in most situations Wimbush would have been the starter QB, he would have beaten Keene for the position this year.

 

[hemightbejeremy]

So you're doing a bunch of complaining....but what is your proposed solution?

Heupel made a bold decision to start a guy with a higher ceiling....and more socks.

Were you posting a new thread for a discussion or some other reason? Sorry to engage with it. I don’t have a “proposed solution”. Just saying proven guys are better than someone who was a 4 start once upon a time but couldn’t play.

 

[Shark19]

Were you posting a new thread for a discussion or some other reason? Sorry to engage with it. I don’t have a “proposed solution”. Just saying proven guys are better than someone who was a 4 start once upon a time but couldn’t play.

A discussion entails a back and forth of facts and opinions, if you read something you disagree with, then state what you would do instead.

I just feel that a high potential guy lost in the numbers of a P4 juggernaut would lead to our best chance of success considering how far down the food chain we are. Those are chances worth taking IMO.

What is a "proven guy" in your opinion? Does the Hawaii guy count? Lots of starts with mediocre stats for a .500 or less team in a G5 conference.

And with minimum playing time, how do you know a Chubba Purdy or a Harrison Bailey can't play?

 

[hemightbejeremy]

A discussion entails a back and forth of facts and opinions, if you read something you disagree with, then state what you would do instead.

I just feel that a high potential guy lost in the numbers of a P4 juggernaut would lead to our best chance of success considering how far down the food chain we are. Those are chances worth taking IMO.

What is a "proven guy" in your opinion? Does the Hawaii guy count? Lots of starts with mediocre stats for a .500 or less team in a G5 conference.

And with minimum playing time, how do you know a Chubba Purdy or a Harrison Bailey can't play?

I told you what kind of QB I would target. One that has been capable on the field at the FBS level. High school stars don’t matter at this point. They correlate to future success on a general level. But not even close to the way that actually having success at this level in the past does. So I wouldn’t eliminate G5 or QBs without 4 high school stars.

 

[Shark19]

I told you what kind of QB I would target. One that has been capable on the field at the FBS level. High school stars don’t matter at this point. They correlate to future success on a general level. But not even close to the way that actually having success at this level in the past does. So I wouldn’t eliminate G5 or QBs without 4 high school stars.

So go look at the portal and make some recommendations. Would Adrian Martinez count?

 

[SCKnight]

And how was Wimbush not successful on the field at ND?

And year over year, star ratings are proven accurate. Not perfect, but accurate.

OK, who would your transfer targets be

Just dont think star ratings should have much to do with a transfer decision. People get all fired up about a rating and I think it is more about ego for the fans "lets get a 4 Star" than looking at the actual ability of the player and how they fit the system.

 

[Poolside Knight]

Nebraska qb in the portal. I actually think he would be a great 1 year fix and fit gus

Frost tried to get him to visit UCF and he refused bc we weren’t Power 5

we sort of are now but he ain’t coming here and I don’t want him anyway

 

[Knight_Classes_begin_7pm]

Nebraska qb in the portal. I actually think he would be a great 1 year fix and fit gus

Totally disagree. The guy is slow, not that accurate. Frost doesn't even want him.

 

[Shark19]

than looking at the actual ability of the player and how they fit the system.

Sure, but who ISN'T going to do this?

 

[Knight_Classes_begin_7pm]

I'm getting the feeling that GUS mostly likes to play "HIS" people when possible.