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Crazyhole

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Turning out to be a really good plan. Every American will spend 2700 bucks to get a 600 dollar check. Wise investment right there.

I find it a little bit funny that the same people in DC demanding a higher minimum wage are only sending out 600 bucks because people need to be able to pay their bills.
 
Turning out to be a really good plan. Every American will spend 2700 bucks to get a 600 dollar check. Wise investment right there.

I find it a little bit funny that the same people in DC demanding a higher minimum wage are only sending out 600 bucks because people need to be able to pay their bills.
Republicans were sending out $0.00 Democrats wanted $1200.00 we get $600.00.
 
Turning out to be a really good plan. Every American will spend 2700 bucks to get a 600 dollar check. Wise investment right there.
Quick Cash businesses exist for a reason. :)

Frankly, I'd rather have some money sent out to families who desperately need it than spend half a trillion dollars in undisclosed payouts in undisclosed amounts to undisclosed corporations like the Trump Treasury Dept. did this summer. I hope the Biden Administration will finally pull the covers off that giveaway to Friends of Trump.

I'll bet anybody here that what we'll eventually learn won't be pretty.
 
Quick Cash businesses exist for a reason. :)

Frankly, I'd rather have some money sent out to families who desperately need it than spend half a trillion dollars in undisclosed payouts in undisclosed amounts to undisclosed corporations like the Trump Treasury Dept. did this summer. I hope the Biden Administration will finally pull the covers off that giveaway to Friends of Trump.

I'll bet anybody here that what we'll eventually learn won't be pretty.
Lol at holding out hope that Biden will change anything. He's not a man of the people. Regardless, that's beside the point. You now owe an additional 2700 dollars, your wife owes an additional 2700 dollars, each of you children owe an additional 2700 dollars. And at best each of you will get 600 bucks in cash. The rest goes to pet projects, debt shuffling, and payroll expenses for companies that are still making profits. This whole thing is horseshit and the one guy who is standing up against it gets attacked for being a Trump supporter.
 
Lol at holding out hope that Biden will change anything. He's not a man of the people. Regardless, that's beside the point. You now owe an additional 2700 dollars, your wife owes an additional 2700 dollars, each of you children owe an additional 2700 dollars. And at best each of you will get 600 bucks in cash. The rest goes to pet projects, debt shuffling, and payroll expenses for companies that are still making profits. This whole thing is horseshit and the one guy who is standing up against it gets attacked for being a Trump supporter.
Again, the White House and the GOP Congress couldn’t get half a trillion dollars to giveaway fast enough. Even though it was our tax dollars they were giving away, the details were kept confidential and the mandated Congressional oversight officer was fired by Trump. So all that money was given away without ANY form of checks and balances.

But 900 million for all the little people? Omogod, what a waste!!! :rolleyes:
 
Again, the White House and the GOP Congress couldn’t get half a trillion dollars to giveaway fast enough. Even though it was our tax dollars they were giving away, the details were kept confidential and the mandated Congressional oversight officer was fired by Trump. So all that money was given away without ANY form of checks and balances.

But 900 million for all the little people? Omogod, what a waste!!! :rolleyes:
Its actually 900 billion. And less than 180 billion of it will go to the people.

Yes, its a waste because most of it will go to people like Joel Osteen so he can make payroll even though he's banked a billion dollars already.
 
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Hundreds of millions are going to things like Pakistan for gender equality.

Billions going to the Kennedy and Smithsonian centers. Again. Whoever is in charge of those places must be a terrible CFO.

On the bright side, they did manage to do away with the fine for using Smokey the Bears likeness without permission.
 
I think everyone is sick of both parties on this at this point ... special interest dominates.
 
When half of our country is too scared of "socialism" to make any attempt to fix our broken form of capitalism, things will just keep getting worse. We must fix our wealth gap
 
When half of our country is too scared of "socialism" to make any attempt to fix our broken form of capitalism, things will just keep getting worse. We must fix our wealth gap
Crony capitalism is socialism. It’s just for the select few. This Bill wastes so much money. Why does this Bill establish a Women’s museum as well as a Latino one? Why does this Bill deal with horse doping in Kentucky or FAA plane certification? Why is so much money going to other countries? This is just a wealth transfer from the government to private groups while most Americans get 600 bucks, the dollar weakens and faith in government plummets. But hey, at least we can right off 100% of business meals now, of course restaurants aren’t open most places...
 
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Crony capitalism is socialism. It’s just for the select few. This Bill wastes so much money. Why does this Bill establish a Women’s museum as well as a Latino one? Why does this Bill deal with horse doping in Kentucky or FAA plane certification? Why is so much money going to other countries? This is just a wealth transfer from the government to private groups while most Americans get 600 bucks, the dollar weakens and faith in government plummets. But hey, at least we can right off 100% of business meals now, of course restaurants aren’t open most places...
I have seen a grand total of zero people that are happy with this bill. On both sides it seems like a lot of people have finally come to the realization that Washington is screwing us over.
 
Somebody snuck in a declaration that the 2020 election was fraudulent. The 2020 Belarus election, that is.
 
193 million for HIV workers abroad to buy new cars.

Tibetan refugees get 32 million dollars

130 million for a study on invasive aquatic species

1 million for water resources in the Tibetan plateau

Funding for education on the dangers of storing flammable liquids near an open flame

16 million for Radio Free Asia

An additional 8 million for the Biden transition team
 
I think everyone is sick of both parties on this at this point ... special interest dominates.
You know why they’re packing this bill. They can’t/won’t pass a budget and are stuck in the revolving CRA trap. So there’s no new money coming through. Thus they have to pork up anything going through to get anything going.

Just pass a damn budget already. It’s the primary purpose of the House of Representatives.
 
Good. If you want to pass a "covid" relief bill don't make it only 10% or less goes the people for covid relief. Also you don't get if your household makes over $150,000. Come on! I want a ps5 for free.

$10 million in gender studies in Pakistan? Really?
It wasn't just a COVID relief bill, it was a bill to fund the government. The internet misinformation wins again. The high standard of living that you enjoy is partially due to foreign aid, which they use to promote our agenda and fight bad guys abroad.
 
You know why they’re packing this bill. They can’t/won’t pass a budget and are stuck in the revolving CRA trap. So there’s no new money coming through. Thus they have to pork up anything going through to get anything going.

Just pass a damn budget already. It’s the primary purpose of the House of Representatives.
Where do you think this "pork" ends up? In the hands of American people in the form of jobs.
 
We are spending 2.3 billion in a new submarine. I hope it’s the kind that shrinks real small and can go in blood streams to fight covid...or in the testacles or wherever covid lives.
 
Where do you think this "pork" ends up? In the hands of American people in the form of jobs.
This is somewhat true in the case of domestic programs. It is not true in the case of foreign aid. This isn’t a jobs bill nor is it an infrastructure bill. It’s an emergency bailout for American residents. They’re just using the crisis to mitigate the absolute failure of Congress to do their jobs.
 
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Stop. This isn't just a random spending bill with a bunch of garbage. It is supposed to be covid relief. I can get behind adding infrastructure spending which is a job win plus its needed, but less than 10% actually going to covid relief? They can try another bill for gender studies in Pakistan later.
It's a covid relief bill and a continual funding of the government which already included foreign aid. Politicians are gaslighting you.
 
This is somewhat true in the case of domestic programs. It is not true in the case of foreign aid. This isn’t a jobs bill nor is it an infrastructure bill. It’s an emergency bailout for American residents. They’re just using the crisis to mitigate the absolute failure of Congress to do their jobs.
The Foreign aid is to promote our agenda and fight bad guys overseas, so we don't have to send troops.
 
The Foreign aid is to promote our agenda and fight bad guys overseas, so we don't have to send troops.
By promoting our gender policies in Pakistan? Careful that you don’t get wet from that water you’re carrying.

Regardless, it needs to be in a considered budget, not in an emergency action for something absolutely unrelated.
 
The White House has had no role in the Congressional negotiations that have been on-going. Finally, they agree on a bill before Christmas and -- low and behold -- Trump decides to blow it up because....(drumroll)....it's not big enough!

We're now in this bizarre limbo where Congress is gone (they thought they had a deal) and it's unclear whether this was pure Trump bluster for a news cycle and he's still going to sign it or it gets vetoed.

Either way, Trump gave the Senate Democrat candidates in Georgia a campaign ad.
 
The White House has had no role in the Congressional negotiations that have been on-going. Finally, they agree on a bill before Christmas and -- low and behold -- Trump decides to blow it up because....(drumroll)....it's not big enough!

We're now in this bizarre limbo where Congress is gone (they thought they had a deal) and it's unclear whether this was pure Trump bluster for a news cycle and he's still going to sign it or it gets vetoed.

Either way, Trump gave the Senate Democrat candidates in Georgia a campaign ad.
Trump is right it is too small. He agrees with Nancy Pelosi and he's painted Cocaine Mitch into a corner because the only one who isn't on board with 2k is his dusty ass.
 
Trump is right it is too small. He agrees with Nancy Pelosi and he's painted Cocaine Mitch into a corner because the only one who isn't on board with 2k is his dusty ass.
You know what? Trump doesn't give a shit about these checks. If he did, he'd have made his wishes clear to his Congressional water-carriers, LONG before this.

This is nothing more than Trump's way of sending a public "FU" to Mitch McConnell and Senate Republicans for 'deserting' him once the electoral college vote was made official and Mitch made his public statement recognizing the election of Joe Biden.
 
You know what? Trump doesn't give a shit about these checks. If he did, he'd have made his wishes clear to his Congressional water-carriers, LONG before this.

This is nothing more than Trump's way of sending a public "FU" to Mitch McConnell and Senate Republicans for 'deserting' him once the electoral college vote was made official and Mitch made his public statement recognizing the election of Joe Biden.
Nah, he definitely cares about the checks. He knows that it will bring his favorability way up and that's how he wants to go out.
 
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Nah, he definitely cares about the checks. He knows that it will bring his favorability way up and that's how he wants to go out.
If he cared about helping the folks who've been hit hard economically by covid, why in the world did he wait until now?

If he would have pushed this hard back in October, it might have been the push he needed to win the election. If he wanted to go out with a higher favorability rating, why not express that desire to Senate Republicans during their negotiations with the Dems? The fact is, he and his chief-of-staff kept his videotaped message secret from everyone else in the Trump Administration and gave it a 'surprise' unveiling last night AFTER most of Congress left for the holidays.

This stunt smacks of political retribution against McConnell versus sudden concern for 'the little guys.'
 
If he cared about helping the folks who've been hit hard economically by covid, why in the world did he wait until now?

If he would have pushed this hard back in October, it might have been the push he needed to win the election. If he wanted to go out with a higher favorability rating, why not express that desire to Senate Republicans during their negotiations with the Dems? The fact is, he and his chief-of-staff kept his videotaped message secret from everyone else in the Trump Administration and gave it a 'surprise' unveiling last night AFTER most of Congress left for the holidays.

This stunt smacks of political retribution against McConnell versus sudden concern for 'the little guys.'

I may be wrong, but wasn't the white house negotiating a bill with Pelosi in October for 2 billion? 1200+600 per dependant like last time?
 
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If we want to borrow money from our own people and China to pay for such things in other countries, then put it in the regular budget and pass the budget. Don’t use public panic to sneak it through the process.

Isn’t this just cultural imperialism?
It wasn't snuck (sp?) in. It was in last years bill. Certain politicians are exploiting you to create outrage. This is part of a worldwide effort. They should have passed the 2 bills separately because people don't Google anymore.

 
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It wasn't snuck (sp?) in. It was in last years bill. Certain politicians are exploiting you to create outrage. This is part of a worldwide effort. They should have passed the 2 bills separately because people don't Google anymore.

It shouldn’t be in any emergency relief bill period. Why is that so hard to understand?
 
It shouldn’t be in any emergency relief bill period. Why is that so hard to understand?
This wasn't an emergency relief bill. They were working on this anyway when they decided to add a covid bill at the last minute.
 
This wasn't an emergency relief bill. They were working on this anyway when they decided to add a covid bill at the last minute.
That’s how it always works. They added it to this bill because they can’t get it through under CRA. So they needed an emergency to pile it onto. It’s how broken Washington works.
 
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Pelosi didn't want to "help" Trump that is why no relief was completed earlier. I say no relief and force the hand of these blue commie States to open. Closing isn't helping with covid cases. California racked up another 44k daily cases again. With the 2nd freaking lockdown.
Funny because the house passed a bill months ago.
 
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