Taggert gone to Oregon
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from bret mcmurphy twitter:Charlie Strong, FSU co-OC Lawrence Dawsey, Alabama OC Lane Kiffin & Ohio State DC Greg Schiano top candidates at USF, sources told
I don't see why Charlie Strong would take that job. It is my understanding his buy out clause states if he takes another job he won't get the 10 million buy out. But, not sure, just heard that. Could not be true. Duh*Bulls can't afford the other guys. But we will see. Good luck to them....NOT....
Hopefully Charlie Strong doesn't go there. That would be bad.
SB Nation says that Kiffin is the choice for USF! That's awesome. He can destroy that program and move on to his next conquest!
Tampa connection. Warm weather, easy recuriting.
4 star Bruce Judson from Cocoa that we were flirting with. Michael Scott who is friends with our commit Owens. Word is that they want to play together. I was sure that Owens would flip next month but maybe not? Maybe Scott flips to us? I think that everyone puts a full press on Judson.
I find this whole coaching thing interesting. Taggert has not really accomplished anything. He has built up USF to be better than they were, but what does that mean? They went 10-2 this season but also had a couple of close calls. That Oregon would hire him to me just shows that the whole college football coaching thing is messed up.
I think this will be one of the best things to happen to USF. Without Flowers and Mack USF is a 7 or 8 win team at best. Maybe they have someone in the wings and I am wrong, but it seems to me that WT is jumping off just at the right time.
I think this will be one of the best things to happen to USF. Without Flowers and Mack USF is a 7 or 8 win team at best. Maybe they have someone in the wings and I am wrong, but it seems to me that WT is jumping off just at the right time.
This ESPN explains it well: http://www.espn.com/college-footbal...ucks-hire-usf-bulls-willie-taggart-next-coach
Bad precedent, any coach with success is being pulled up rapidly. Whether people find it warranted or not, hard to convince any coach to stay now if P5 programs only require moderate success. Also once you hit the majors even if you falter you are always guaranteed to end up somewhere and the security of a massive buyout (i.e. Strong). You falter at G5 you end up in obscurity. All this says is that someone will call Scott Frost before he has to do anything really big.
As for USF, who wouldn't want that job. You convince their rb to stay, they have a senior led star QB and an out of conference schedule where Illinois is the toughest opponent in 2017. The team is setup to have a solid season, you instantly start off on a winning season and have an extra season to recruit. In a career where wins equals money, why wouldn't you go to a situation where the wins are essentially already built in.
As for USF, who wouldn't want that job. You convince their rb to stay, they have a senior led star QB and an out of conference schedule where Illinois is the toughest opponent in 2017. The team is setup to have a solid season, you instantly start off on a winning season and have an extra season to recruit. In a career where wins equals money, why wouldn't you go to a situation where the wins are essentially already built in.
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In a vacuum, this isn't a big deal. But grand scheme, this doesn't bode well for us. Basically, Frost just needs 1 season with 2 or less losses and he's gone. The AAC has become the defacto feeder pool for P5 coaching jobs. Herman, Rhule, and Taggert this year, Fuentes last year. 4 coaches picked off in just 2 years.
My guess is Frost is gone in just 2 years or less. Tops. Let's enjoy him while we can.
My guess is Frost is gone in just 2 years or less. Tops. Let's enjoy him while we can.
We'll get another HC. My concern is that nobody understands our offense. Over time it will be harder for Temples, Memphis', USFs to replace good coaches. Houston and UCF are in the driver's seat if we can make good decisions. USF is a crappy job. UCF and Houston are not. You only leave those 2 programs for the pinnacle of P5 which doesn't come around often. Nobody is leaving UCF to go to Baylor or Oregon unless we are about to fire them. Tom Herman could afford to wait for the right opportunity to present itself, Fuente, Rhule and Taggert could not, they had to get off of the bus.
It's also going to depend on the available jobs every year. This year there are some really big job openings to fill.
Strong gets paid a total of 10 mil not to coach for the next 2 years,
That Texas buyout is nuts.
5 mil in 2017
5 mil in 2018
If he took a job in the ACC he would at best be paid 2mil. So he loses 3 mil for accepting the job.
That Texas buyout is nuts.
5 mil in 2017
5 mil in 2018
If he took a job in the ACC he would at best be paid 2mil. So he loses 3 mil for accepting the job.
Bingo. Strong will sit out for a couple years and accept a P5 job then. No way he comes back to G5.
Why? Does he have some special powers, or wins multiple national championships and is unbeatable? All I've ever seen him do as a head coach is choke. Yeah, he can recruit but that can only get you so much.
He can recruit the crap out of FL, especially Miami. I don't want him anywhere near us.
"The contract also states that should Strong land another job, the money paid by UT would be offset as much as 50 percent by the new school. For example, if Strong landed a job that paid $1 million annually, UT would get $500,000 off what it owes him."
He gets hired for $2 million a year, he still gets paid $4 million a year from Texas. He's not losing anything.
Any job Strong gets is a pay raise over his previous salary for the next two years.
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Hahaha, just when I think you guys can't get any more delusional I read this. Yea, because a middle of the road AAC team that can't beat winning teams is certainly just below the "pinnacle" of college coaching jobs out there. Get a grip on reality. P5 jobs > G5 jobs every time...the only thing that short-term success like Taggart had gets you is a more attractive landing spot for the next guy. There's no loyalty in college football, certainly not in the AAC.
Who's delusional? Where were theCow pucks the last 3 years? Granted last year was a disaster for us but the previous 2 years our middle of the road team was winning back-to-back conference championships, a BCS bowl, and finishing the season ranked in the top ten. What were the pucks doing besides helping other teams pad their win totals?? They have their best season ever and are going to a nothing bowl to play a 6-6 team.
Not a pay raise worth coaching. If he were paid $1.5-2 million, he would only get a raise of $750,000-$1,000,000 vs sitting on his couch.
Wrong. Why do you think nobody from the AAC stepped up to take the Rutgers, Illinois, Syracuse, Maryland type jobs last year? They sucked. P5 jobs are not all better than G5 jobs. Herman had the luxury of major advantages over other schools in the AAC. He could afford to wait for the right job. Frost has many of the same advantages. Rhule and Taggert are cashing out for the best P5 job that they could get, because they know next year their value won't be as high. Herman would NEVER go to Baylor or Oregon.
First home game-
Schiano: Boys, we're about to open a new...
*Deja Vu hits as he scans the locker room reminiscing on a time not to long ago, when he was 1 of only 32 head coaches on the biggest stage in football*
Players: Coach! Coach! You OK?!?
*Snaps back to reality, looking at the stark contrast of the red locker room to the green uniforms, like the most depressing Christmas ever*
Schiano: Nevermind guys... Do whatever you want, nothing matters anymore.
Coaches who reach a high level do so because of drive, ego. Look at the numerous coaches that stay in the role until they are 70+, they don't need the money. Virtually every high profile coach could quit their job and make millions just doing ESPN broadcasting but they don't. Some do and still go back. Saban is rich, won everything that is possible, and would be offered anything from ESPN for a few hours of work. Yet he still wakes up and goes to work every day.
I think part of the reason Taggart was in such in a rush to get out of USF is bc mid season last year there was pressure from a few Boosters then their AD Harlan told him to change the offense or he was getting fired. He brings in that guy Kinnick then their offense starts clicking in the Spread. I think this hire is extremely risky for Oregon, yes he can recruit but Distance is a Factor & he's not going to out talent USC and even Washington since Petersen is starting to have them rolling
Greg Schiano but he wont have the recruiting pull of Taggert.
Also, some USF players leave to NFL because of this and coaches goes to Oregon
with Taggert.
Also, some USF players leave to NFL because of this and coaches goes to Oregon
with Taggert.
Scott (or coaches hired from Houston, Temple, USF, or Memphis last year) aren't allowed to do anything BIG anymore. It's rigged airtight, unlike basketball where any of 351 schools has a path to the national championship.
The P-5 rigged it from any outside school ever again reaching the championship playoffs. Houston this year was likely the last one they'll allow to have a OOC schedule tough enough to have any chance (playing both Oklahoma and Louisville).
There's a new formula out there for coaches. At least, the smart ones. Get a coordinator job at a major school. Turn that into a head coaching gig at a mid major where there is more parody. Win big there and wait for one of the big time jobs to open up. Rhule did that. Hermann did that. Taggert did that. Urban Meyer did that. Jim McElwain did that. Chris Peterson did that. Scott Frost probably will too.
The best young coaches have learned to stay away from lower tier P5 jobs. They're dead ends.
The best young coaches have learned to stay away from lower tier P5 jobs. They're dead ends.
