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Texas Abortion Limits Struck Down

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Texas basically tried to solve problems that didn't exist.

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/a...rtion-limits-struck-down-by-u-s-supreme-court

We add that, when directly asked at oral argument whether Texas knew of a single instance in which the new requirement would have helped even one woman obtain better treatment, Texas admitted that there was no evidence in the record of such a case. See Tr. of Oral Arg. 47.

http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/15pdf/15-274_p8k0.pdf
 
Hmmm...I wasn't aware that abortion was limited to one race.
Since I'm a Neo Nazi white supremacist Trump supporter I guess I should change to pro choice to continue killing blacks & Hispanics in the name of feminism! Somehow this is straight white male Christians' fault

"Why is this troubling? As a Hispanic woman, I find the racial statistics of abortion deeply unsettling. Among white women, there were 138 abortions for every 1,000 births. Among black women, the number rises to a dizzying 501 abortions. Hispanic women account for 25% of all US abortions, though Hispanics make up just 16% of the population. While we hear a lot of agonizing over the high murder rate of minorities, we don’t hear much about the thinning of the minorities by abortion. Truly the most dangerous place for a black baby is in his mother’s womb, and a Hispanic baby is not far behind."

http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/the-racial-statistics-of-abortion-cannot-be-ignored/
 
Since I'm a Neo Nazi white supremacist Trump supporter I guess I should change to pro choice to continue killing blacks & Hispanics in the name of feminism! Somehow this is straight white male Christians' fault

"Why is this troubling? As a Hispanic woman, I find the racial statistics of abortion deeply unsettling. Among white women, there were 138 abortions for every 1,000 births. Among black women, the number rises to a dizzying 501 abortions. Hispanic women account for 25% of all US abortions, though Hispanics make up just 16% of the population. While we hear a lot of agonizing over the high murder rate of minorities, we don’t hear much about the thinning of the minorities by abortion. Truly the most dangerous place for a black baby is in his mother’s womb, and a Hispanic baby is not far behind."

http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/the-racial-statistics-of-abortion-cannot-be-ignored/
Hispanic isn't a race though.
 
Since I'm a Neo Nazi white supremacist Trump supporter I guess I should change to pro choice to continue killing blacks & Hispanics in the name of feminism! Somehow this is straight white male Christians' fault

"Why is this troubling? As a Hispanic woman, I find the racial statistics of abortion deeply unsettling. Among white women, there were 138 abortions for every 1,000 births. Among black women, the number rises to a dizzying 501 abortions. Hispanic women account for 25% of all US abortions, though Hispanics make up just 16% of the population. While we hear a lot of agonizing over the high murder rate of minorities, we don’t hear much about the thinning of the minorities by abortion. Truly the most dangerous place for a black baby is in his mother’s womb, and a Hispanic baby is not far behind."

http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/the-racial-statistics-of-abortion-cannot-be-ignored/
http://freakonomics.com/2005/05/15/abortion-and-crime-who-should-you-believe/
 
"Why is this troubling? As a Hispanic woman, I find the racial statistics of abortion deeply unsettling. Among white women, there were 138 abortions for every 1,000 births. Among black women, the number rises to a dizzying 501 abortions. Hispanic women account for 25% of all US abortions, though Hispanics make up just 16% of the population. While we hear a lot of agonizing over the high murder rate of minorities, we don’t hear much about the thinning of the minorities by abortion. Truly the most dangerous place for a black baby is in his mother’s womb, and a Hispanic baby is not far behind."

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Hopefully this also strengthens the next 2nd Amendment ruling. Yes, I'm looking at you NY State, where you have a 95% civil disobedience rate.

I.e., a state that passes laws to basically make it difficult to exercise a civil right is basically outlawing a civil right, especially when people have a high rate of civil disobedience and otherwise find ways to bypass the obstruction.

The Republicans do this with abortion like the Democrats do it with the right to bear arms. Both are protected civil rights, but because they cannot get a supermajority of the people and state to pass a Constitutional Amendment, they make it difficult to exercise it and play other games.
 
Since I'm a Neo Nazi white supremacist Trump supporter I guess I should change to pro choice to continue killing blacks & Hispanics in the name of feminism! Somehow this is straight white male Christians' fault

"Why is this troubling? As a Hispanic woman, I find the racial statistics of abortion deeply unsettling. Among white women, there were 138 abortions for every 1,000 births. Among black women, the number rises to a dizzying 501 abortions. Hispanic women account for 25% of all US abortions, though Hispanics make up just 16% of the population. While we hear a lot of agonizing over the high murder rate of minorities, we don’t hear much about the thinning of the minorities by abortion. Truly the most dangerous place for a black baby is in his mother’s womb, and a Hispanic baby is not far behind."

http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/the-racial-statistics-of-abortion-cannot-be-ignored/
Consider the access to birth control.
If you have insurance, birth control is $0/month (Obamacare?) If you don't have insurance, its $25-30/month.

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Consider the access to birth control. If you have insurance, birth control is $0/month (Obamacare?) If you don't have insurance, its $25-30/month.
Although I regularly challenge the 'White Privilege' argument, I will concede a 'Male Privilege' reality ... at least when it comes to healthcare. As much as I take issue with the President's hypocrisy at times, especially on healthcare, this is one area where men are ignorant ... and wrong ... and the President rightly and justly addressed.

55% of women require birth control for regularity. Let me say that again if my fellow, American males didn't hear it correctly ...
Over half of women require, medically, some sort of hormonal control on their bodies, for regularity of their periodic cycles, among other impacts to their bodies that we men just don't have to deal with, and are totally ignorant of. From a cost-effectiveness standpoint, the most direct way is to leverage the common, existing birth control solutions available, which targets over 85% of them, completely, well-proven, with well-known and mitigated or, often, eliminated risk factors.

This is my #1 problem with the 'Theocratic' right, they assert the government should make this about all sorts of things, when it's really, scientifically simple.

Which brings me back to men ...

At one point, more insurance companies covered Erectile Disfunction (ED) -- yes, Viagara et al. -- more than for women who medically required hormonal control. That is just f'd up.

So, back to the topic at-hand ...

Again, the Texas law was purposely designed to limit the civil right that women have, specifically limiting the rights of a set of our fellow Americans. It was designed to make it difficult to exercise, thereby -- essentially -- undermining the right, without an US Constitutional Amendment.

This is what drives me up the wall about Republicans, just like the Democrats on guns. They will use these maneuvers to limit civil rights, because they can not get a supermajority of the people and their states to pass a Constitutional Amendment.

That's circumventing the foundation by, of and for The People of the United States.

This is what the Liberal media -- who I normally despise -- get absolutely right-on, when it comes to the "War on Women" by Republicans. It's a concerted effort to limit their civil rights, even ones protected by an US Supreme Court ruling, and even agree should exist by a supermajority of American citizens.

Planned Parenthood started as, and still are, the experts in women's health. They spend less than 3% of their time doing abortions. Every time I see the Republicans and right demonize Planned Parenthood, its exactly like the Democrats and left demonizing the NRA, who are the experts in firearm safety and use. They even use the exact same arguments on one another too, even the exact same phrases.

Hispanic isn't a race though.
Only if you're the US media, talking about "whiteys" like Zimmerman.
 
Consider the access to birth control.
If you have insurance, birth control is $0/month (Obamacare?) If you don't have insurance, its $25-30/month.

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What's the point here? Birth control access leads to less abortions? If you're not responsible enough for $30/month... You and I should pick up the tab?

As much as I hate abortions, not dumb enough to think making something illegal does anything other than alter supply/demand.
 
What's the point here? Birth control access leads to less abortions? If you're not responsible enough for $30/month... You and I should pick up the tab?
As much as I hate abortions, not dumb enough to think making something illegal does anything other than alter supply/demand.
I think I've beyond explained why birth control has other pro-arguments -- medically so -- than just avoiding abortions.

It's the one area where I wish I could tell my fellow men to STFU, we're too ignorant to understand.
 
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I think I've beyond explained why birth control has other pro-arguments -- medically so -- than just avoiding abortions.

It's the one area where I wish I could tell my fellow men to STFU, we're too ignorant to understand.
So women get pregnant by themselves in your world eh?
 
So women get pregnant by themselves in your world eh?
^^^ This is why. Literally. STFU.

Seriously ... if a woman gets pregnant, the only man (or men) that should be part of that discussion -- at all -- is the man who pregnanted her (or the one that is with her, relationship-wise, if she had an affair with another man). He (or they) does not need our "added help" ... especially not men like yourself.

And in the end ... it's still her body, period. That's the reality. I trust women to do the right thing more than the US or even state governments.

That said ... I'm the first guy to say women who tell the government to hold a gun to a man's head and pay for 18+ years, is only going to undo the whole justification of Roe v. Wade. It's that the government cannot hold a gun to a woman's head and say the same for 18+ years.
 
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^^^ This is why. Literally. STFU.

Seriously ... if a woman gets pregnant, the only man (or men) that should be part of that discussion -- at all -- is the man who pregnanted her (or the one that is with her, relationship-wise, if she had an affair with another man). He (or they) does not need our "added help" ... especially not men like yourself.

And in the end ... it's still her body, period. That's the reality. I trust women to do the right thing more than the US or even state governments.

That said ... I'm the first guy to say women who tell the government to hold a gun to a man's head and pay for 18+ years, is only going to undo the whole justification of Roe v. Wade. It's that the government cannot hold a gun to a woman's head and say the same for 18+ years.
So it's not the 3-6 month's old's body?
 
So it's not the 3-6 month's old's body?
Yes, it is. And that's why I trust women to do the right thing ...

And far more than the government, or other men telling the government to hold a gun to her head.

The man who impregnated her, and the men she chooses to value in her life, also have a say. But not other men. Not the government.

And in the end, again, I trust women more than the government to do what is right.
 
Yes, it is. And that's why I trust women to do the right thing ...

And far more than the government, or other men telling the government to hold a gun to her head.

The man who impregnated her, and the men she chooses to value in her life, also have a say. But not other men. Not the government.

And in the end, again, I trust women more than the government to do what is right.
You're taking away the fetus' choice
 
You're taking away the fetus' choice
And you know better for the fetus' ... than the woman, right? You know better, and will have the government hold a gun to the head of the woman, to assert such. You and other people, right?

This is the main principle behind Roe v. Wade. The supreme ruling of the land.

But because you, and others, cannot get a supermajority of the American people and their states to overturn Roe v. Wade, you will do everything you can to prevent a woman from having any choice in the matter.

You condone what the state of Texas did ... because the end justifies the means. The US Constitution be damned.
 
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What's the point here? Birth control access leads to less abortions?

Yes

If you're not responsible enough for $30/month... You and I should pick up the tab?

It's not about being responsible as much as it is about being too poor to pay $30/month.

And which is cheaper as a taxpayer, paying the $30/month to keep someone from not getting pregnant, or paying the welfare for the baby born?

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Word. Bandaid. Questions behind the questions. Why are these people irresponsible? Why can't they afford $30? Whatever back to sports ball & us weekly.
 
Seriously ... if a woman gets pregnant, the only man (or men) that should be part of that discussion -- at all -- is the man who pregnanted her (or the one that is with her, relationship-wise, if she had an affair with another man). ...

I'm a little confused.

So you are saying if a woman is in a relationship with a man (in or out of marriage), yet she has multiple affairs...which man again gets a say?

The one in the so-called steady relationship?

All of those that she slept with?

Who will pay for the DNA test to decide which of all the men impregnated her?

But what if she doesn't have an emotional relationship with that person yet she does with 1 or 2 or 3 others? Do all 4 have a say?

Only if those PhD Researchers that were on Shark Week that go out of their way to save the life of Baby Tiger Sharks still in their Mom's womb...yet still support abortion on demand in the human world.

#crazy

PS. Heck, in some counties in FLA, there is a 5 day waiting period (2 additional days on top of the 3 day statewide waiting period) to purchase a handgun yet abortion advocates don't even want a 24 hour waiting period for taking the life of a baby.
 
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PS. Heck, in some counties in FLA, there is a 5 day waiting period (2 additional days on top of the 3 day statewide waiting period) to purchase a handgun yet abortion advocates don't even want a 24 hour waiting period for taking the life of a baby.
1. It's not a baby. 2. Abortions aren't spur of the moment.
 
Used to be somewhat of a filthy liberal hippie douchebag on this til I had a kid. Start rubbin elbows w peeps who can't get pregnant for years makes you resent murdering the defenseless.
 
There is so much irony in the fact that liberals view an explicit Constitutional right, the 2nd Amendment, as being supposedly "limited and subject to whatever restrictions we want!", while viewing the non explicit Constitutional right of abortion as being essentially limitless and subject to no restrictions whatsoever.

Abortion clinics on every street corner, ending the babies' life 1 month prior to birth? No problem! It's "women's healthcare" after all!
 
1. It's not a baby. 2. Abortions aren't spur of the moment.

Yea, it's not a baby! It's just this "thing" that may or may not become a human baby if left alone. After all, it could become a tiger. Or a frog. Or in some cases, a pregnant woman will actually give birth to a chair. After all, it's not a baby and there's no telling what will develop if the scrambling of its' brains is not performed!

On that note, we should really strip all young children of their 4th Amendment rights. It's not an adult! And since we're apparently free to look at the natural development of a human and make our own determination as to when it's suitable to execute that human, we can surely extend the rationale to infants and toddlers.
 
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Yea, it's not a baby! It's just this "thing" that may or may not become a human baby if left alone. After all, it could become a tiger. Or a frog. Or in some cases, a pregnant woman will actually give birth to a chair. After all, it's not a baby and there's no telling what will develop if the scrambling of its' brains is not performed!

On that note, we should really strip all young children of their 4th Amendment rights. It's not an adult! And since we're apparently free to look at the natural development of a human and make our own determination as to when it's suitable to execute that human, we can surely extend the rationale to infants and toddlers.
ba·by
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  1. 1.
    a very young child, especially one newly or recently born.
 
Yea, it's not a baby! It's just this "thing" that may or may not become a human baby if left alone. After all, it could become a tiger. Or a frog. Or in some cases, a pregnant woman will actually give birth to a chair. After all, it's not a baby and there's no telling what will develop if the scrambling of its' brains is not performed!

On that note, we should really strip all young children of their 4th Amendment rights. It's not an adult! And since we're apparently free to look at the natural development of a human and make our own determination as to when it's suitable to execute that human, we can surely extend the rationale to infants and toddlers.

Parents should be able to murder their kids as long as they are dependent on them.
 
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I'd honestly prefer if people were brutally honest about what abortion is and isn't. Want it legal? Fine. At least sack up and admit what your're supporting.

There's a reason they ALWAYS frame it as "women's health care". As if it's no different than a mammogram or taking calcium treatments.

Instead of always claiming it's "healthcare", just admit that it's a matter of eugenics and deciding which Undesirables will live or die. Because for the overwhelming majority of abortions, that's what it boils down to- whether or not that human life is desirable or not. Whether or not it's convenient.

If it's not a "baby" then ok- start referring to it as An Undesirable.
 
All these stupid cukcs against abortion and who bitch about welfare make me laugh. It should be as easy to get an abortion in this country as it is to get a slurpee. In fact 7-11 should offer them--have an incentive program where the fifth one is free and you get a big gulp, or something.

And for the millionth god damn time its' isn't a word.
Whatever we can do to not point our individual responsibility failures of people.

Just as long as they watch sports ball, Hollywood propaganada, stare @ ur phone & consume.
 
Oh great, so what is this then?

Third-Trimester-Ultrasound.jpg


Does it make you feel better about abortion knowing that some Wiki definition provides the moral leniency needed?
That looks like some bs from anti-abortion site, probably photoshopped. It's definitely not a baby according to dictionary.com. Most abortions don't occur in the 3rd trimester, though as we know you all don't really care about facts.
 
Whatever we can do to not point our individual responsibility failures of people.

Just as long as they watch sports ball, Hollywood propaganada, stare @ ur phone & consume.

It is individually responsible to coat hanger these little bastards the eff on out.

The second part of your post is another WTF moment.
 
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An abortion would've prevented BS...

... abortions don't sound so bad all of a sudden, eh?
 
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These babies will eventually become teenagers and teenagers suck, and stuff.
EXCATLY!!!!!! Then they're gonna get fukced and then killed and then we're gonna blame somebody for killing them. I mean, what are they there for anyways?????
 
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