Thanks Obama!
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I think it's time to question if the Unemployment rate and his 55% approval rating is b.s.
This was a massive rejection of Liberalism
This was a massive rejection of Liberalism
Or it was a rejection of Clinton.
I think it was a rejection of politicians in general.
It was a rejection of Clinton. Democrats should have never elected her their nominee (no, I did not vote for her in the primary). Democrats do well when their is a true progressive running for president.
Oh and people hate her, they really, really hate her.
Oh and people hate her, they really, really hate her.
It was a rejection of Barry and his liberal policies which have wrecked the economy. Barry said last week that a vote for Trump was a personal insult to him. Welll........
California is in its own world. They automatically put Dems with a 3 TD lead when it comes to the Popular vote
Update below from Adrian Wyllie FL Libertarian Guber candidate in '12 (who I voted for) (this election I went Trump, Stanton, no 1 yes 2 personally)
For Florida Libertarians, here are the upsides from this election.
- Jared Grifoni won his bid for Marco Island City Council, after running a campaign that should become the template for future Libertarian candidates. Congratulations, my friend.
- Paul Stanton received more votes than any Libertarian U.S. Senate Candidate in Florida history. Kudos, Paul.
- Though Gary Johnson failed to meet our goal of 5% of the vote, he received over 4 million votes nationally, more than tripling the prior record for a Libertarian Presidential candidate.
- Amendment 1 failed, ensuring that the free market -- not the utility monopolies -- will control the future of solar energy in Florida.
- Amendment 2 passed, allowing Floridians to use medicinal cannabis, and setting the stage for full legalization.
So, for Libertarians, there's a lot to be happy about today.
For Florida Libertarians, here are the upsides from this election.
- Jared Grifoni won his bid for Marco Island City Council, after running a campaign that should become the template for future Libertarian candidates. Congratulations, my friend.
- Paul Stanton received more votes than any Libertarian U.S. Senate Candidate in Florida history. Kudos, Paul.
- Though Gary Johnson failed to meet our goal of 5% of the vote, he received over 4 million votes nationally, more than tripling the prior record for a Libertarian Presidential candidate.
- Amendment 1 failed, ensuring that the free market -- not the utility monopolies -- will control the future of solar energy in Florida.
- Amendment 2 passed, allowing Floridians to use medicinal cannabis, and setting the stage for full legalization.
So, for Libertarians, there's a lot to be happy about today.
Although it's anecdotal, every Democrat I've talked to has been boastfully proud of Obama's presidency. I think this chart illustrates the Undecided voters are not happy with the direction things are going and are voting against the party in power. Not to mention voter turnout from Democrats has not been as good.
Overall perhaps, but Trump received the majority of votes . . . in the majority of states.
Obama had a mandate in 2008 with his huge win over McCain and the sweeping victory in Congress; I guess you could argue Trump has the same since he won and the GOP owns both Houses. To be honest, I'm not sure margin of victory really matters for it to be considered a mandate.
It doesn't, take out NYC and the vote totals flip. People here live in a different world than most. I laugh at people when they say Clinton won the popular vote, of course she did, people in NYC think everyone should be like them and live like them.
The electoral college can not be manipulated. It is a way of calculating the popular vote around the country.
The GOP already had control of the House and Senate and lost seats in 2016. Trump got less votes than HRC. The Republican party got less votes than the Democratic party for the 6th time in the last 7 presidential elections. Plus, Trump is the most unpopular person every to win the presidency. I would caution against calling that a mandate.
You act like the popular vote doesn't matter. You must have people vote for you in order to win electoral votes. It's the only way it happens.
I'm not arguing against the Electoral College, but what? That's a silly response. Let's just take out the whole South, they think completely different then us....that's pretty much what you're saying. Let's take out California, they different, bye girl.
if we went strictly on popular vote then California would decide every future election whose Politics have gone so far left compared to the rest of the country
Now it's dictated by Wyoming, the Dakotas, and Montana like states. One vote there means more (up to 4x) than in states like California and New York. That's not fair either.
if we went strictly on popular vote then California would decide every future election whose Politics have gone so far left compared to the rest of the country
Then that is what the country is. The Electoral College is like a voter exchange. Each person votes and depending on your address will determine the exchange rate for your vote. In CA there are ~164,000 voters per electoral vote. In Wyoming, there are ~83,000 voters per electoral vote. So people in Wyoming count twice as much as the people in CA.
It's dictated by the swing states, not the Wyomings of the country. The swing states are all really good representations of the country as a whole, that's why they're swing states.
And Electoral votes change over time as Representation in the House changes in accordance with the latest Census. The system isn't meant to change quickly, but 388 out of 538 Electoral votes could theoretically come from one state. Right now 80% of the electoral votes come from a population based metric, that's fair in my eyes.
Another reason to make a proportional electoral college, gets more states involved.
I know you are trolling, I'll take the bait. Not sure where you got that from or that it is outrageous that 2 Americans have equal vote representation.
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