ADVERTISEMENT

The NBA has a real China problem on its hands

Jedi.Knight

Jedi.Knight

Bronze Knight
Apr 21, 2008
1,178
851
113
So, Houston Rockets general manager Daryl Morey tweets his support for Hong Kong activists and is immediately checkmated by the NBA suits with an apologetic mea culpa that speaks of "offensive comments" to the Chinese people that doesn't reflect the NBA as an entity.

Meanwhile NBA commish Adam Silver, while in Tokyo, gives a half-hearted defense of Morey by expressing how the NBA respects the rights of individuals to express their opinions, yada yada. Yao Ming -- whose rise to prominence was solely through the efforts of American democracy and capitalism -- takes a stand with the communist regime as an agent of oppression.

And then you have Lebron. With the "NBA Cares" event in Shanghai cancelled under suspicious circumstances, he and the other kneelers have yet to speak out against the atrocities committed in China on a daily basis. Remember, this is the same league that yanked the All Star game from Charlotte because North Carolinians didn't want men in wigs using female bathrooms, yet they're deafly silent when it comes to the plight of over a million Muslims (Chinese citizens) placed in concentration camps in the city of Xinjang -- a city where the NBA has one of 3 training camps.

Seems that the "woke" are soundly asleep when their activism affects their bottom line. Why not take a knee for this cause as well??? We all know the answer.
 
  • Like
Reactions: drays21
As if anybody needed any more proof that it's not about "woke" or "rights" or "LGBTQ" ...or bathrooms .. babies in cages ... or any of that crap. it's about money and power. Always has been.

China brings me big money ... and I want my guys in power. That pretty much sums it all up.
 
Both the Gov't and Corporate America has been selling us out for a long time. They believe to export a bit of freedom to china, we have to accept losing a bit here. Fair trade and profit in their view.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Knight_Classes_begin_7pm
Matt Parker and Trey Stone just took a giant dump on the NBA and the pussies who run it[roll]

“Like the NBA, we welcome the Chinese censors into our homes and into our hearts,” Parker and Stone wrote. “We too love money more than freedom and democracy. Xi doesn’t look just like Winnie the Pooh at all! Tune into our 300th episode this Wednesday at 10! Long live the Great Communist Party of China! May this autumn’s sorghum harvest be bountiful! We good now China?”
 
  • Like
Reactions: UCFWayne
Why haven't the Rockets fired their GM? That would have been my first move after he apologized.
 
This story is symbolic of all international corporations. Once an American company grows big enough to expand worldwide, don't expect it to give a flying f**k about standing up for American values and ideals. In fact, screw the red, white, and blue if need be. It's all about making a profit, baby!
 
DaShuckster said:
This story is symbolic of all international corporations. Once an American company grows big enough to expand worldwide, don't expect it to give a flying f**k about standing up for American values and ideals. In fact, screw the red, white, and blue if need be. It's all about making a profit, baby!
Click to expand...
You were watching Tucker tonight? JD Vance just made that point.
 
DaShuckster said:
This story is symbolic of all international corporations. Once an American company grows big enough to expand worldwide, don't expect it to give a flying f**k about standing up for American values and ideals. In fact, screw the red, white, and blue if need be. It's all about making a profit, baby!
Click to expand...

This is actually nonsense. Multinational corporations are not the boogeyman and unless you're a small business, it's almost impossible to restrict your marketplace to just America when it's now so easy to do business in other nations

Doing business in Canada and the EU does not equal doing business in China. Instead of having to navigate terrible food options like poutine or have to deal with annoying French unions, in CHina you have to navigate small things like 1M religious minorities in concentration camps and the suppression of all basic human rights.

Do not attempt to provide cover for hypocritical companies like Apple by putting all international commerce in the same basket.
 
UCFKnight85 said:
This is actually nonsense. Multinational corporations are not the boogeyman and unless you're a small business, it's almost impossible to restrict your marketplace to just America when it's now so easy to do business in other nations

Doing business in Canada and the EU does not equal doing business in China. Instead of having to navigate terrible food options like poutine or have to deal with annoying French unions, in CHina you have to navigate small things like 1M religious minorities in concentration camps and the suppression of all basic human rights.

Do not attempt to provide cover for hypocritical companies like Apple by putting all international commerce in the same basket.
Click to expand...
Don’t you speak ill of poutine!
 
  • Like
Reactions: UCFKnight85
UCFKnight85 said:
This is actually nonsense. Multinational corporations are not the boogeyman and unless you're a small business, it's almost impossible to restrict your marketplace to just America when it's now so easy to do business in other nations

Doing business in Canada and the EU does not equal doing business in China. Instead of having to navigate terrible food options like poutine or have to deal with annoying French unions, in CHina you have to navigate small things like 1M religious minorities in concentration camps and the suppression of all basic human rights.

Do not attempt to provide cover for hypocritical companies like Apple by putting all international commerce in the same basket.
Click to expand...

Free market principles are one of the tenets of conservative ideology. However American values and free market principles only work together while America is the dominant market in the world, which we have been since WW2. Now, there is competition for markets including 1.4B Chinese. Big corporations who have traditionally sided with conservatives (while universities and media outlets have sided with liberal ideology) have to make a choice between American values and competition in the free market now that there are more emerging markets in Asia. The NBA is a prime example of do you 1.) stand up for American values or 2.) increase your bottom line. Neither. is wrong.
 
firm_bizzle said:
Free market principles are one of the tenets of conservative ideology. However American values and free market principles only work together while America is the dominant market in the world, which we have been since WW2. Now, there is competition for markets including 1.4B Chinese. Big corporations who have traditionally sided with conservatives (while universities and media outlets have sided with liberal ideology) have to make a choice between American values and competition in the free market now that there are more emerging markets in Asia. The NBA is a prime example of do you 1.) stand up for American values or 2.) increase your bottom line. Neither. is wrong.
Click to expand...

No, this is utter nonsense too. What is going on in China has nothing to do with "American Values". I'm pretty sure the Europeans and most everyone in the world with a shred of decency is appalled by what is taking place inside China.

This can be really simple for a corporation. Here's all they need to ask in the Board Room, ready?

"Is the market we're pursuing currently holding 1M religious minorities in concentration camps?" "In these camps, are they harvest organs by cutting them out of living people?" "Does the government of this market require coercion and absolute censorship to be part of the market?"

If the answer to any of the above is "yes" then you should not pursue that market and should not be complicit in enriching the government undertaking those measures.
 
UCFKnight85 said:
No, this is utter nonsense too. What is going on in China has nothing to do with "American Values". I'm pretty sure the Europeans and most everyone in the world with a shred of decency is appalled by what is taking place inside China.

This can be really simple for a corporation. Here's all they need to ask in the Board Room, ready?

"Is the market we're pursuing currently holding 1M religious minorities in concentration camps?" "In these camps, are they harvest organs by cutting them out of living people?" "Does the government of this market require coercion and absolute censorship to be part of the market?"

If the answer to any of the above is "yes" then you should not pursue that market and should not be complicit in enriching the government undertaking those measures.
Click to expand...

Ok, maybe you can interchange "American values" for "Western values".

However, the way you feel about the Kurds, is the exact same way those in that board room feel about 1 million people in concentration camps. "Not my problem". Their job is to increase profits, they are doing their job. This is why Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren are gaining traction.
 
DaShuckster said:
This story is symbolic of all international corporations. It's all about making a profit, baby!
Click to expand...
UCFKnight85 said:
This is actually nonsense.
Click to expand...
Really? The only thing that is nonsense is your stupid post. The issue here is not restricting markets. If a company wants to sell its goods and services to consumers in China, Saudi Arabia, Russia, and Turkey, more power to them. In fact, exporting American goods and services on the free market should be a good thing that ends up promoting America and American values.

But there is something fundamentally wrong if these American 'international' companies are so influenced by foreign money that they allow themselves to become anti-American puppets.
​
This country was founded on a revolutionary set of ideals and values. They have survived and stood the test of time through many wars. But they are in jeopardy in today's world not because of an invading military force, but instead, by our own people. This NBA thing is just the latest example of foreign countries like Russia and China using their financial influences to slowly erode our values and destroy us from within.
 
firm_bizzle said:
Ok, maybe you can interchange "American values" for "Western values".

However, the way you feel about the Kurds, is the exact same way those in that board room feel about 1 million people in concentration camps. "Not my problem". Their job is to increase profits, they are doing their job. This is why Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren are gaining traction.
Click to expand...

No, not even "western ideals". There are people in Singapore, Japan, Kuwait, Botswana, S Africa, Brazil, Peru, etc etc etc etc etc who feel that running a modern day holocaust is beyond any possible comparison to any other worldwide issue ongoing at the moment.

That's the issue. You're trying to conflate what China is doing with just another international issue to deal with but it's not. This is literally a smaller scale Nazi style holocaust going on in their country, complete with concentration camps, torture chambers, experimentation on humans, and mass slaughter of life.
 
DaShuckster said:
Really? The only thing that is nonsense is your stupid post. The issue here is not restricting markets. If a company wants to sell its goods and services to consumers in China, Saudi Arabia, Russia, and Turkey, more power to them. In fact, exporting American goods and services on the free market should be a good thing that ends up promoting America and American values.

But there is something fundamentally wrong if these American 'international' companies are so influenced by foreign money that they allow themselves to become anti-American puppets.
​
This country was founded on a revolutionary set of ideals and values. They have survived and stood the test of time through many wars. But they are in jeopardy in today's world not because of an invading military force, but instead, by our own people. This NBA thing is just the latest example of foreign countries like Russia and China using their financial influences to slowly erode our values and destroy us from within.
Click to expand...
For the most part, you don't just "sell products" in China and there is nothing about doing business with China that is "free market". The Chinese go out of their way to put you in a position where they have all of the advantage and leverage. It's far more than them just taxing imports. Even that is complicated because so much of it produced in China. If you're lucky, they'll only make you export it and then re-import it, paying VAT both times. From there it gets much more hairy as they entrap you into partnership arrangements and legal jeopardy. Here's one reference that describes some of the issues with trying to sell products in China: https://www.chinalawblog.com/2018/03/how-to-sell-your-products-into-china.html

The NBA is learning that getting in bed with China is not anything like doing business in most every other country. But that's not really the point here. The point is the hypocrisy of so many leftists that support BDS and other SJW boycott movements but are defending the NBA bending over backwards to do business with China.
 
  • Like
Reactions: UCFKnight85 and UCFWayne
Steve Kerr was asked about the Chinese human rights abuses and he decided to equate the governmental atrocities with the few independent mass shootings in America. For some reason he thought this was a good argument.
 
  • Like
Reactions: UCFWayne
sk8knight said:
Steve Kerr was asked about the Chinese human rights abuses and he decided to equate the governmental atrocities with the few independent mass shootings in America. For some reason he thought this was a good argument.
Click to expand...
Progressive US Media logic strikes again ...

NRA = Chinese government
 
sk8knight said:
Steve Kerr was asked about the Chinese human rights abuses and he decided to equate the governmental atrocities with the few independent mass shootings in America. For some reason he thought this was a good argument.
Click to expand...

Dude spent much of his childhood in the middle east. His family was peace corps type of people. He is not your average, run of the mill guy. He also has to cater to basketball players so he will pick up whatever liberal flag he needs to in order to advance his own cause. If all of a sudden most basketball players hated China, he would hate China.

You can't be an owner or coach in the NBA without pandering to the players. You won't succeed.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Poolside Knight
The Branch said:
Dude spent much of his childhood in the middle east. His family was peace corps type of people. He is not your average, run of the mill guy. He also has to cater to basketball players so he will pick up whatever liberal flag he needs to in order to advance his own cause. If all of a sudden most basketball players hated China, he would hate China.

You can't be an owner or coach in the NBA without pandering to the players. You won't succeed.
Click to expand...
The thing is, earlier in the week he answered that he hadn’t researched the issue enough to answer the question. But now he’s going with the NBA’s presence in China is justified because America has the same kind of problems with mass shootings. There’s pandering and then there’s idiocy. The fact that anyone can make that equivalence, even if pandering, is frustrating. But he’s been one of the outspoken SJW leaders in the NBA.
 
  • Like
Reactions: UCFWayne and drays21
Steve Kerr is a withering little pussy bitch

good luck to him the next time he wants to pop off politically about US matters. He’s on record defending the record of the Communist concentration camps
 
  • Like
Reactions: UCFWayne, drays21 and Ucfmikes
Steve Kerr loves China more than his own country. He’s a spineless jellyfish who’s trying to compare the atrocities of China to the mass shootings in the USA

He’s extremely ignorant or just plain stupid

Hope THIS is his defining moment and not all of his other accomplishments
 
  • Like
Reactions: UCFWayne and drays21
You might want to research what happened to Steve Kerr’s father before labeling him a ‘pussy bitch’ .
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
ADVERTISEMENT

Latest posts

ADVERTISEMENT
Top Bottom
Back