. . . is that, with two more points scored against FIU and two more against Furman, we'd have a 2-1 record right now instead of 0-3. It would be one thing if FIU and Furman had blown us out, but in a way, losing to each of them by a single point sucks even worse because one or two big plays could have made a huge difference.
The thing that really gets me about the 0-3 start . . .
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That's why we all need to relax. You said it. We could easily be 2-1 with 2 ugly wins and a narrow loss to Stanford which was predicted to be a blowout with us at full strength.
So close to being the above and then you would only hear the usual whiners and complainers
Wins are wins. We probably aren't that bad with a few more healthy players. I
mean, come on. Chris Williams out with a gunshot wound. WTH! That's huge right there.
Look at 2013. Could have lost to Temple, Louisville, Memphis, USF, Houston, SMU, etc. we could have been 6-7 or so.
Hey, wins are still wins regardless of the scoring margin. I think even a one-point win would've helped boost the players' confidence that much more.
And I would add that we won those tight ball games because we had a well-coached, talented team thanks in large part to the same person that a number of UCF fans now want to fire based on the results of three games.
Panic balls. It's unbelievable how many people are freaking out. We're 0-3 and when we most likely are 0-4 this weekend, I'll still say "relax."
Again, wake me up when we are 0-3 or 0-4 next year. It's just impatient immaturity.
I'm going to laugh my ass off next year when Holman is slinging the ball all over the place to a slew of WRs and the young running backs are gashing chunk runs with an offensive line that has some experience.
I don't even want to talk about the defense. Especially DBs and LBs
All this foolish panic for nothing
I don't even want to talk about the defense. Especially DBs and LBs
All this foolish panic for nothing
This is the definition of nuthugging. We played so poorly, other than WR and Punter, the first 3 games that we didn't deserve to win any. I'd be calling for a new AD and removing Key even if we had squeeked by. Most of the fans can see how atrocious the offense is. We don't need stats to tell us we are at or near the bottom in all offensive rankings.
THIS IS THE DEFINTION OF AN IMMATURE PANIC BALL! PLEASE CHANGE YOUR DIAPER IF YOU CAN'T HANDLE AN 0-3 START!
I will still attend games. Why don't you and KL and Matt and BS go run some other college program into the ground and let UCF get a jump on the next chapter.
Next chapter? HA!! You must be reading pretty short books if you turn to the next chapter after an 0-3 start. How long will it take you to want the next coach fired? Or will you expect a national championship in the first year?
Well.., let me tell you something. A new coach will surely have ups and downs and bad loses. Maybe not as bad as these, but maybe no 12-1 records either. Be careful what you wish for.
Can you handle attending games?? More losses are to follow. I hope we don't have to put you in s straightjacket
0-3 and I'm personally running UCF into the ground by supporting my team as much as any fan? Go follow USF until we turn this around. GOL like Steve Spurrier isn't going anywhere so you might as well be a fan and support your team. We're not going to suck forever.
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Did you call Dr Hitt?? Did it work?? What did he tell you??
I'm excited about a new coach and OC that will sling the ball all over the place too.
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This isn't just a ho-hum too bad tough luck 0-3 start. We just lost to a run of the mill FCS school in BHNS. We have, by objective measures, an historically inept offense through three games, two of which were played in friendly conditions against competition that should not be competing with UCF in those conditions even in a down year. In the middle of all this, our elderly HC has assumed additional responsibilities as AD. Instead of focusing squarely on coaching up his young team and overseeing a first time OC who is clearly struggling to come up with an effective gameplan on offense, O'leary is splitting his time between things like the women's volleyball budget and his duties as HC. It isn't working. The status quo of GOL as HC and AD with Key as HCIW can't continue in my opinion.
And if I had a vagina instead of a penis I'd be KL and I'd win a courage award. Fact is, that's not the case.
Everything you said is perfectly correct and accurate. Problem is there's a lot of posters on here that have been just a bit more radical and panicky to say the least
Yep, and if ECU defenders would have jumped 1" higher or if UH QB would have held onto the ball just a bit tighter we would not be using the back2back marketing we are using this year.
If BB would have throw that ball 1 MPH faster at Temple or if Memphis kickoff returner held onto the ball just a bit tighter or if UH receiver would have jumped just a bit earlier we wouldn't be celebrating our bid to the Fiesta Bowl.
The point is, even the successful seasons for GOL have been literally a single play away from being failures or at least not so successful. He gets all this credit from the huggers, but in reality he has been extremely lucky. He never has a game plan the puts teams away. He is from time to time lucky because certain players throw all bad coaching aside and make a good play here and there.
BTW ... trying to be 100% objective ... 1 catch less and we wouldn't have made the Fiesta Bowl either.
And no team with conference championship are like that, correct? I mean, they were just awesome and unchallenged by everyone. Not that winning seasons matter either.
All that matters is that GoL shouldn't have ever been hired. He was wrong for the program, right?
Loser talk. Football is a game of inches, almost every team in CFB would have a different record if you took away a couple of plays each game.
There's been a lot of loser talk on here. I am convinced that some of those O'Lickers don't follow any other sports team. People are seriously saying they wouldn't put boy George on the hot seat if he went 0-12 this year. That's downright embarrassing.
There's been a lot of loser talk on here. I am convinced that some of those O'Lickers don't follow any other sports team. People are seriously saying they wouldn't put boy George on the hot seat if he went 0-12 this year. That's downright embarrassing.
Oh, I see, every win that GOL has coached us to here has been nothing but luck. Let's assume that's true for a moment . . . why fire him? Wouldn't you rather keep him around if he's been that lucky for the past several years? How do you know the luck has totally run out?
C-Mont, this is another example of what I mentioned earlier about the flaws in your argument. You present no facts to back up what you say. I can point to conference titles, a BCS bowl win, national rankings, etc. You're pointing to "Well, what if this happened and what if that happened?" It's okay to talk about what-ifs, but using them to win an argument isn't as effective as using facts.
Are you going to take back your comment about GOL killing more players? Or are you going to continue to stand by that classless statement?
No, I think you have that wrong. Running a program into the ground would be firing a successful head coach before you've given him a fair shot to rebound from a poor start to a season. Your solution is a knee-jerk reaction.
Yeah.., Auburn never got lucky wins either. They are Luck--U. When they get lucky wins they are great and so are the coaches. When GOL gets lucky wins, well..., it's luck.
I think O'Leary himself has used this analogy before: you are what your record says you are.
Right now, we're a dysfunctional 0-3 team.
Right now, we're a dysfunctional 0-3 team.
There is no next chapter. You are stuck with GOL forever!!!!
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You assume I wanted GoL in the '00s ... or Hitt for that matter back in the early '90s.There is no next chapter. You are stuck with GOL forever!!!!
I couldn't stand Hitt early on, especially after he suspended Student Government over BS he caused. Even the BOR (IIRC) cited him in their audit, and basically made the rule that no President could pull that ever again.
But Hitt has done us proud.
And GoL has done us proud.
It still cannot believe people who will never like GoL, who use every loss as a case against him, ignoring all they've done for us, and continue to do for us ... especially when it's only a few losses, in an understandable time of the program. Such as in a rebuilding year.
So let me clarify what youre saying. You are ok with GOL having another 12 to 15 game losing streak?
Yes, if we have a winning season next year, let alone a conference or at least a divisional title. It's called a "rebuilding" year.
If you expect to be #1, a Boise State, I understand.
I'm content to be a #2 ... instead of a #3 ... let alone #30 ... G5.
The grass is always greener on the other side.
You could be right.
But statistically, you guys are far more likely to be wrong.
No I'm not. I want to see steady improvement this year as guys get healthy and mature, then a good to very good record next year.
Geez, we "huggers" Aren't stupid or delusional. I want to see wins just like everyone else.
There is no next chapter. You are stuck with GOL forever!!!!
1-2 years and he's done anyway. Forever is a long time.
The reason I'll tolerate 12-15 losses is if we have a winning season next year. And I expect a divisional title at a minimum.
If not, it means the GoL program has failed.
If thats the case why bring in GOL and pay him 2 million a year? If your content with less we shouldve hired a coach at a fraction of the cost. We might be able to reach a BCS bowl too. Hawaii and Northern Illinois did....and NIU has been winning since Novak left even as their coaches left for P5 jobs.
NIU has also been destroyed by even lesser teams (let alone top teams) in their bowls too.
The only loss they played decent in was against Utah State ... and that was the same year they were likely going to face Baylor in the Fiesta, until they blew the MAC Championship. I would argue that was their best year ever.
But still, NIU has a decent record, conference aside. They are succeeding in their conference, 7 years straight. It just doesn't make them the #2 G5, but it does make their program one of the top 5, considering their losses and those magnitudes.
You know, I was thinking the same thing. We should hopefully have a few guys back next year from injury and everyone gains one year of experience. Plus next year we lose about 4 starting seniors (2 on offense and 2 on defense). We could potentially return 10 starters on each side of the ball. I know this season isn't over but I can't help but think how much we have back next year.
It sucks to dip this badly but the reality is, we are extremely young, have a few injuries dating back to the spring that cost some players the entire year, and even lost a couple guys early to the NFL.
People just need to grow up. We are not going to experience a crazy USF downfall. I really think we'll get things going this year and bounce back strong next year.
It's really too early to tell how "good" our Freshmen will be after the experience gained this year. I'm not going to assume we'll have better results, I'll just sit back and watch.
That said, we clearly have had some great recruiting classes, and ranked higher than in prior years. As much as the anti-GoL crowd says otherwise, because of the south Florida pipeline is not as good, it's hard to deny that. But there's no guarantee that their stars will result in ... well ... on-field results. The hand-off has just been a lot rougher, because we've had enough injuries to field almost an entire side of the ball at this point. This includes so few seniors to run the team, as GoL always talks about how they do.
As I said, if we do dip into a losing season next year too, I'll be the first one to admit the GoL program has failed us for the first time ... on-the-field. Off-the-field only goes so far and for so long, when you dip into back-to-back losing seasons on-the-field. Until then, I reserve all judgement other than the fact that the GoL program hasn't hurt us long-term before. It makes absolutely no sense to call for his firing (let alone Hitt's) right now, and telegraphs how pathetic, demanding and "results now, not later" we are as a fanbase to any potential coach.
And changes are not always good ... especially when you're already established as the #2 G5 program. This is hardly the first time we've been really bad under GoL.
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