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Trump Paid $2million to get Otto Warmbier Released

WE WERE for crying out loud.

We had American diplomats negotiating for Warmbier's freedom. Is that 'fake' news?

The North Koreans had the balls to actually ask for $2 million dollars for the "medical care" of the American student they tortured and brutalized into a non-reversible vegetative state. Is that 'fake' news?

Do you think this student's family and friends would call Kim's murderous North Korean thug regime a bunch of terrorists -- or is that 'fake' news too?

The senior American diplomat in charge of the negotiations accepted the medical bill from the North Koreans so that Warmbier -- in his pathetic, vegetative state -- would be 'freed.' His parents took their son off life support six days later. Yet more 'fake' news, right?

Despite the proclamations of you and your 'fake news' buddies, whether we paid the medical 'bill' or not is the only open question for most free-thinkers. I sure as hell hope we didn't give that murderous SOB Kim a f'cking penny
Wow. You’re so Shook that maybe I should wait until you get a fresh pair of underwear before responding. Shouldn’t you get that TDS checked out?
 
These left wing radical extremists are a very very angry group

Aren’t the “inbred, White supremacist, uneducated, MAGA hat wearing” Trump supporters supporters supposed to be the violent angry ones?

Should we start making a list?
 
Apparently when a poster answers his question, Mikes only response is to play toadie troll.

Next time you get owned, I suggest you just STFU. :)
 
Apparently when a poster answers his question, Mikes only response is to play toadie troll.

Next time you get owned, I suggest you just STFU. :)
You’re a fukcking Shook TDS not real American loser

You couldn’t own your own feces

You are spewing a bunch of stupid arguments

On one hand you’re trying to argue that Trump negotiated with NK and paid them 2 million which is completely not factual at this point

Then, you have a contradictory argument that Trump didn’t care about Warmbier. That’s another BS statement.

I personally would be happy if we paid 2 million in medical bills to bring him home. That’s customary for Americans in similar situations. BFD. Should we have just let him die. Tell the parents THAT

Warmbier basically went to NK and was tortured and murdered

We have very stifling sanctions against NK now

However, because of the Warmbier incident, that happened during the Obama administration of course, Trump and the US is never supposed to negotiate again with NK???

How fukcing stupid is that left wing TDS logic?

Glad the radical left wing extremists like yourself aren’t making decisions for this country anymore or else Guam would be history and we would be in a nuclear crisis

You wouldn’t know owned if it kicked you in your TDS Shook ass. So you can STFU now
 
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You’re a fukcking Shook TDS not real American loser

You couldn’t own your own feces

You are spewing a bunch of stupid arguments

On one hand you’re trying to argue that Trump negotiated with NK and paid them 2 million which is completely not factual at this point

Then, you have a contradictory argument that Trump didn’t care about Warmbier. That’s another BS statement.

I personally would be happy if we paid 2 million in medical bills to bring him home. That’s customary for Americans in similar situations. BFD. Should we have just let him die. Tell the parents THAT

Warmbier basically went to NK and was tortured and murdered

We have very stifling sanctions against NK now

However, because of the Warmbier incident, that happened during the Obama administration of course, Trump and the US is never supposed to negotiate again with NK???

How fukcing stupid is that left wing TDS logic?

Glad the radical left wing extremists like yourself aren’t making decisions for this country anymore or else Guam would be history and we would be in a nuclear crisis

You wouldn’t know owned if it kicked you in your TDS Shook ass. So you can STFU now
Dont waste your breath, he is a shook puss.

On the other hand, we do know obummer paid $800 mil in middle of the night
 
Apparently when a poster answers his question, Mikes only response is to play toadie troll.

Next time you get owned, I suggest you just STFU. :)

Are you willing to admit that you're pushing a lie and fake news here? BQ's headline is fake news and now you're running with it despite every single article on this subject all saying that every source they have confirms nothing was ever actually paid.

Or are you doing that thing where you make an obviously false claim, lie about something, dig in, and refuse to ever backtrack and admit this?
 
Are you willing to admit that you're pushing a lie and fake news here? BQ's headline is fake news and now you're running with it despite every single article on this subject all saying that every source they have confirms nothing was ever actually paid.

Or are you doing that thing where you make an obviously false claim, lie about something, dig in, and refuse to ever backtrack and admit this?
They will move on to the next thread soon.
 
Are you willing to admit that you're pushing a lie and fake news here?
Oh, you want to take me on? Okay, let's start by you showing me the post in this thread where you claim I "pushed a lie."

Or are you doing that thing where you make an obviously false claim, lie about something, dig in, and refuse to ever backtrack and admit this?
If you can't identify the 'lie' I pushed in this thread, it appears I'm due for an apology, Sparky.

Of course, you could always "dig in and refuse to ever backtrack" instead. :)
 
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Oh, you want to take me on? Okay, let's start by you showing me the post in this thread where you claim I "pushed a lie."


If you can't identify the 'lie' I pushed in this thread, it appears I'm due for an apology, Sparky.

Of course, you could always "dig in and refuse to ever backtrack" instead. :)

You’re still pushing the overlying fake news lie in the title as something that actually happened when it didn’t.

Can you type something as simple as “No money was paid” and admit that? Becuase if not you’re still pushing a lie.
 
You’re still pushing the overlying fake news lie in the title as something that actually happened when it didn’t.
You forgot to show me where I was “still pushing the lie” here. I neither started this thread or confirmed the money was paid.

God forbid you apologize to me for your mistake. I’m shocked that you would dig in and refuse to backtrack.
 
You forgot to show me where I was “still pushing the lie” here. I neither started this thread or confirmed the money was paid.

God forbid you apologize to me for your mistake. I’m shocked that you would dig in and refuse to backtrack.

You asserted it was paid for most of this thread by repeating over and over that Trump is a liar so all denials must be a lie too. Even with multiple stories saying this IS a lie.

Then you changed the subject and tried to insist that we shouldn’t have been trying to even get Otto back.
 
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You asserted it was paid for most of this thread by repeating over and over that Trump is a liar so all denials must be a lie too. Even with multiple stories saying this IS a lie.
Jesus, how hard is it to say you’re sorry? Why not surprise us all and step up and do the right thing for a change?
 
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You know he does this just to screw with you, right? It's a pattern and it works every time.
The fact he “liked” your post is an admission to him being wrong pretty much 100% of the time. This means he owns the fact he was wrong on russian collusion 100 as well
 
You know he does this just to screw with you, right? It's a pattern and it works every time.

Nah. That’s just him. This is the guy who spent 6 pages insisting that smirking is grounds to ruin a kids life. He’s deranged.
 
it works every time.
No Fooling!!!

85 is out of his league when it comes to sparring with The Great One. Some posters just don't have the intelligence, courage, or the emotional maturity to stay in the ring with the legendary Dark Lord of Sarcasm.

But I don't go around looking for a fight. When 85 called me out in this very thread, I had no choice but to show his ass up. After the count out, you'd have thought he'd take the classy route and own up to his mistake and apologize, right?

Nah. :)

But that's okay, 85. To be honest, it didn't surprise me. Better luck next time.
 
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I’ll put an end to this BS once and for all:



President Trump said Friday that the United States did not pay any money to North Korea, which had issued a $2 million bill for the hospice care of American Otto Warmbier, the comatose University of Virginia student sent home from Pyongyang in 2017.

“No money was paid to North Korea for Otto Warmbier, not two Million Dollars, not anything else,” Trump said in a tweet in which he suggested he has taken a different approach to hostage negotiations than his predecessor.

The Washington Post reported Thursday that North Korea presented an invoice for Warmbier’s care in an extraordinarily brazen act even for a regime known for its aggressive tactics.

The main U.S. envoy sent to retrieve Warmbier signed an agreement to pay the medical bill on instructions passed down from Trump, according to two people familiar with the situation. They spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the matter publicly.

The bill went to the Treasury Department, where it remained — unpaid — throughout 2017, the people said.

Before Trump’s tweet, the White House had declined to comment on whether the bill was paid or whether the issue came up during preparations for Trump’s two summits with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un.

In his Friday tweet, Trump cited two episodes during the Obama administration that he suggested stood in contrast to his stance on hostage negotiations.

Trump claimed that the previous administration “paid 1.8 Billion Dollars for four hostages.”

That referred to a 2016 settlement of a long-standing claim by Iran regarding undelivered aircraft on the same day four American detainees were released.

State Department officials have insisted that the negotiations over the claims and detainees were not connected but came together at the same time, with the cash payment used as “leverage” to ensure the release of detainees.

Trump also cited the case of Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, who in 2009 walked off a U.S. military outpost in eastern Afghanistan and spent the next five years in enemy captivity. He was released in 2014 as part of a prisoner exchange for five Taliban members who were being held at the detention center at Guantanamo Bay.

Bergdahl pleaded guilty in October 2017 to charges of desertion and misbehavior before the enemy. Trump has accused Bergdahl of being a traitor and called for his execution. Bergdahl was later sentenced to a dishonorable discharge from the Army but avoided prison time.

In a second tweet Friday, Trump quoted an unnamed U.S. negotiator saying: “President Donald J. Trump is the greatest hostage negotiator that I know of in the history of the United States. 20 hostages, many in impossible circumstances, have been released in last two years. No money was paid.”

A White House spokesman said Trump was referring to previous remarks by Robert O’Brien, the administration’s special presidential envoy for hostage affairs.

O’Brien made similar remarks to those quoted by Trump at a March event in the Oval Office marking the return to the United States of Danny Burch, an American hostage who was freed in Yemen in February after nearly 18 months in captivity.

Speaking to reporters Friday, Trump claimed he was making “a lot of progress” in his efforts to denuclearize North Korea.

“I have a great relationship with Kim Jung Un,” said Trump, who also praised Russia and China for working with the United States toward its goal of a denuclearized Korean Peninsula.

Warmbier, who was 21, fell into a coma for unknown reasons the night he was sentenced to 15 years in prison in North Korea with hard labor in March 2016.

He was convicted on charges stemming from pulling down a propaganda sign in a Pyongyang hotel in the early hours of Jan. 1, 2016. Such an infraction would be minor in almost any other country, but in North Korea, it was considered a “hostile act against the state.”

Fred Warmbier, Otto Warmbier’s father, said he was never told about the hospital bill. He said it sounded like a “ransom” for his son.

After his sentencing, the North Koreans held on to the comatose student for 15 more months, not even telling American officials until June 2017 that he had been unconscious all that time.
 
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No Fooling!!!

85 is out of his league when it comes to sparring with The Great One. Some posters just don't have the intelligence, courage, or the emotional maturity to stay in the ring with the legendary Dark Lord of Sarcasm.

But I don't go around looking for a fight. When 85 called me out in this very thread, I had no choice but to show his ass up. After the count out, you'd have thought he'd take the classy route and own up to his mistake and apologize, right?

Nah. :)

But that's okay, 85. To be honest, it didn't surprise me. Better luck next time.
That's not exactly what I was talking about but you do you, Shookster. On debates, 85 solidly blows your ass out of the water and it isn't even close. What I was referring to was your habit of digging in on a position even after you've been proven absolutely wrong. After digging in, you simply double down by grabbing some irrelevant sentence and making something up or making some inference that is totally false. You always attempt a deflection by fabricating a totally bogus statement and attribute it to the poster you are arguing with (or you call somebody racist) and then demand an apology for it even though it was never said or even implied. It's actually quite humorous and you are quite good at it.
 
Nah. That’s just him. This is the guy who spent 6 pages insisting that smirking is grounds to ruin a kids life. He’s deranged.
I don't think so. He knows how to pull your strings. He's a smart guy and there is absolutely no way that he believes even half the shit he posts.
 
That's not exactly what I was talking about but you do you, Shookster. On debates, 85 solidly blows your ass out of the water and it isn't even close. What I was referring to was your habit of digging in on a position even after you've been proven absolutely wrong. After digging in, you simply double down by grabbing some irrelevant sentence and making something up or making some inference that is totally false. You always attempt a deflection by fabricating a totally bogus statement and attribute it to the poster you are arguing with (or you call somebody racist) and then demand an apology for it even though it was never said or even implied. It's actually quite humorous and you are quite good at it.

I don't think so. He knows how to pull your strings. He's a smart guy and there is absolutely no way that he believes even half the shit he posts.

:joy::joy::joy:
[roll]

Says the guy who thinks the earth is 6,000 years old. 90% of what 85 posts is pure lies anyway, easily proven false by anyone with an internet connection and half a brain.
 
That's not exactly what I was talking about but you do you, Shookster. On debates, 85 solidly blows your ass out of the water and it isn't even close. What I was referring to was your habit of digging in on a position even after you've been proven absolutely wrong. After digging in, you simply double down by grabbing some irrelevant sentence and making something up or making some inference that is totally false. You always attempt a deflection by fabricating a totally bogus statement and attribute it to the poster you are arguing with (or you call somebody racist) and then demand an apology for it even though it was never said or even implied. It's actually quite humorous and you are quite good at it.

The fact he didn't get this - [roll]
 
You’re still pushing the overlying fake news lie in the title as something that actually happened when it didn’t.

Can you type something as simple as “No money was paid” and admit that? Becuase if not you’re still pushing a lie.
shookster has a very long history of being proven wrong and not being man enough to admit it.
 
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