TV news reporter and cameraman shot and killed during live broadcast in VA
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Bull shit if just pass more laws this will never happen!!!!
Action for actions sake! (Since the people who advocate such activity after every single murder the media selectively picks to broadcast really just narcissistic "Look at what I am doing to help mfers")
When I see those suspenders, all I think is hate now. Take Mort and Mindy off TV Land!
Why do C list foreign celebrities think we give a chit about what they think of 'Murica?
Wish these anti gun celebrities would walk the walk & have their secruity get rid of their guns; lead by example
O that's right its a do as I say not do as I do world from the ruling class
O that's right its a do as I say not do as I do world from the ruling class
When you're quoting a comedian in a serious debate who's best bit is about getting a vibrator stuck up his ass, you've just excused yourself not only from the adults' table but from the entire neighborhood.
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I love when liberals reference the Australia gun law "miracle". It's full of half truths, but the thing they NEVER reference is the fact that the government made confiscation mandatory for nearly 1/3 of the firearms in Australia. They don't mention that since it would sink their entire argument (we have that pesky Constitutional right here). Forced confiscation legislation passed here would absolutely lead to an armed insurrection.
You forgot to use your smiley face, sarcastic humor is not understood by the masses, you need a smiley face.
Like what, gun ownership and sales are up all while violent crime rates plummet?
That the majority of "gun related deaths" are in fact suicides?
That homicides involving a rifle such as an AR15 are nearly statistically insignificant?
That not a single new "law" proposed by Hillary and her fanatics would have stopped the news camera killer?
That when liberals cite the Australia gun law passed in 1996 they never admit that it forced confiscation?
Forced confiscation? LOL.
To sum up your nonsense, gun ownership and sales are up along with the suicide rate and the GOP has yet to provide a single idea to address the issue of gun violence.
I can't tell if you honestly refuse to actually research what Australia passed, or you know and are just playing stupid and ignorant. Either way, I'll still explain.
Australia banned semi-automatic weapons (estimates put this up to 50% of the firearms in the country) In 1997. By banned, the government said that no one was allowed to possess such a firearm and made it a crime to do so. This was de facto confiscation since the government said turn over your weapons, or else. However there was a pesky law in their Constitution which said that the government cannot confiscate private property without compensation. To get around this, the government expanded the Medicare Levy Amendment Act of 1996 to include the money required to "compensate" the people for whom they were forcibly subjecting to confiscation.
Some estimates say they took 1/3 of all guns. Some have it higher at 1/2. The early dissenters were dealt with fast and harshly- they were imprisoned and warrants were issued to raid their homes and take any firearms found.
So yes, it was confiscation in every sense of the meaning.
As for your last comment- what exactly is supposed to be done about suicides? People have been killing themselves for well before a firearm existed. People still kill themselves by the hundreds of thousands in countries that have banned evil firearms.
As this chart shows, our suicide rate is no more troubling than countries like Norway, Switzerland, Sweden, Japan, etc. We have higher gross numbers because, wait for it- we have more people. And because the Chinese government does not count how many people commit suicide annually.
I can't tell if you honestly refuse to actually research what Australia passed, or you know and are just playing stupid and ignorant. Either way, I'll still explain.
Australia banned semi-automatic weapons (estimates put this up to 50% of the firearms in the country) In 1997. By banned, the government said that no one was allowed to possess such a firearm and made it a crime to do so. This was de facto confiscation since the government said turn over your weapons, or else. However there was a pesky law in their Constitution which said that the government cannot confiscate private property without compensation. To get around this, the government expanded the Medicare Levy Amendment Act of 1996 to include the money required to "compensate" the people for whom they were forcibly subjecting to confiscation.
Some estimates say they took 1/3 of all guns. Some have it higher at 1/2. The early dissenters were dealt with fast and harshly- they were imprisoned and warrants were issued to raid their homes and take any firearms found.
So yes, it was confiscation in every sense of the meaning.
As for your last comment- what exactly is supposed to be done about suicides? People have been killing themselves for well before a firearm existed. People still kill themselves by the hundreds of thousands in countries that have banned evil firearms.
As this chart shows, our suicide rate is no more troubling than countries like Norway, Switzerland, Sweden, Japan, etc. We have higher gross numbers because, wait for it- we have more people. And because the Chinese government does not count how many people commit suicide annually.
LOL, stop trying to explain liberal viewpoints and tell us when confiscation is non-forced?
Also, you continuously post that ownership is up and crime is down. Why don't you post ownership is up and suicide is up? Because you're cherrypicking, as usual.
From 1986 to 2000, suicide rates in the U.S. dropped from 12.5 to 10.4 suicide deaths per 100,000 people in the population. Over the next 12 years, however, the rate generally increased and by 2013 stood at 12.6 deaths per 100,000 (Figure 2). CDC figures for death by suicide are currently lagging by more than a year.
Australia and the U.S. Are so demographically and geographically different that it is nearly impossible to compare the two. Nonetheless, while they certainly can claim that the gun deaths dropped because they were able to limit gun ownership on their island, the rates of other forcible crimes increased, to include sexual assaults.
Regardless, banning the weapon isn't the answer. People in prison where all weapons are banned and inmates are aggressively monitored still find a way to make weapons to commit murder. Take away guns and people intent on mass murder will scour the Internet and find out that normal household chemicals can be made into much more horrific mass murder tools. When are we going to stop talking about the tools and start dealing with the real problems?
Regardless, banning the weapon isn't the answer. People in prison where all weapons are banned and inmates are aggressively monitored still find a way to make weapons to commit murder. Take away guns and people intent on mass murder will scour the Internet and find out that normal household chemicals can be made into much more horrific mass murder tools. When are we going to stop talking about the tools and start dealing with the real problems?
So suicide with a gun is BAD but it's AOK to coathanger a fetus and scramble its brains? Choose life on one hand but end it on the other?
Do you simply use "LOL" every time you're outgunned in an argument?
I don't know what you're even trying to prove here. It's incoherent. What does this have to do with firearms?
You're moving the goalposts so much that I can't keep up.
They're not it's a cover for the radiation that the illuminati is allowing to decrease population. It's why a lot of them have built underground lairs in South America. That's also why our population forecast is down so much here:
http://www.deagel.com/country/forecast.aspx
Keep on watching cable news, sports, jenners penis, vmas etc
New study coming out about how inmates get guns. Pretty much all of them said they got them off the street. None of them went online or to gun stores. I would link the article, but its currently blocked at my office.
They're obviously lying. There is an NRA sanctioned charity that gives guns to criminals.
http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/7/...crooks-get-guns-from-pals-dont-keep-them-long
anon_x731qvsnsyb8i
Diamond Knight
There seems to be some confusion among most people that call themselves "liberal" these days as the terms "liberal" and "socialist" are two completely different things. If you identify as "liberal" and call yourself a "socialist" you are one confused muggafugga.
I like it. Let's correlate the increase in gun ownership to the increase in gun thefts.
We should really make stealing illegal. Can we do that?
Not making a political statement one way or the other, but couldn't the high suicide rates from returning vets with PTSD have something to do with the increased suicide rates?
Dude- at this point you should just stop. You've dug your hole pretty deep.
anon_x731qvsnsyb8i
Diamond Knight
Suicide rates have little to do with gun ownership. GTFO. Suicide rates are skyrocketing in nations that don't allow ownership. Cherrypicking? That deserves an LOL. So much convolution on the socialist wing of the Democratic party these days.
veteran suicide rates are not astronomically higher than civilian rates and actually decrease if they receive care from the VA (or other provider). Also that 22 / day statistic you hear is misleading, that number is from a VA report that looked at ALL vets regardless of time away from service. Not just the recent ones.
anon_x731qvsnsyb8i
Diamond Knight
I remember a day when those that touted science touted the commonly accepted belief that the most likely explanation is the right one. I believe that 100%.
That logic has since been abandoned by the Socialist wing of the Democratic party. The allusions and convolution is getting really complex to make arguments these days. They really have to stretch, making their argument far less likely to be accurate.
