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UCF loses commitment from top pass-rusher Isaiah Nixon. Where do Knights turn next?

Can "we" all come up with a more accurate term that "committed"? ...our society / culture (as a whole) seems to have difficulty with honest, disciplined, old fashioned commitment as it is.

Maybe "Considering"? "Leaning"? "Dating"?

...something that doesn't further desensitize kids to the term/concept of commitment.
 
The whole process is dumb, if I am high rated recruit that virtually everyone will allocate a spot for me, then I am waiting till fall at the earliest to commit after I heard all my options.

And people get so angry about a 17 year old actions, saying they don't understand commitment. Generally a teenager has zero understanding of commitment.
 
Can "we" all come up with a more accurate term that "committed"? ...our society / culture (as a whole) seems to have difficulty with honest, disciplined, old fashioned commitment as it is.

Maybe "Considering"? "Leaning"? "Dating"?

...something that doesn't further desensitize kids to the term/concept of commitment.
I respectfully disagree.

People should be able to change their mind if they think there's something else they want.

He didn't sign any commitment paperwork. He just decided he wants something else.

On the flip side, this is a good thing for us because it means we'll get someone who wants to be here, but maybe is a little lower rating. Better for locker room chemistry.

Look at how he did it, he posted on insta "I ain't no Knight". No offense, but we should go for someone with a better attitude towards our program
 
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I respectfully disagree.

People should be able to change their mind if they think there's something else they want.

He didn't sign any commitment paperwork. He just decided he wants something else.

On the flip side, this is a good thing for us because it means we'll get someone who wants to be here, but maybe is a little lower rating. Better for locker room chemistry.

Look at how he did it, he posted on insta "I ain't no Knight". No offense, but we should go for someone with a better attitude towards our program
Thanks for being respectful, with all due respect in return, I think you're misinterpreting my post.

I don't care that he flipped... Just don't use the term "committed" for the recruitment classification... Call it something else.

Those of us raised up, down home, where a man's good word and a handshake are all you need.
 
Thanks for being respectful, with all due respect in return, I think you're misinterpreting my post.

I don't care that he flipped... Just don't use the term "committed" for the recruitment classification... Call it something else.

Get back to down home, where a man's good word and a handshake are all you need.
I do think more parameters are needed for the portal and for signing days. Like the portal is open from date x to date y. Commitments are binding contracts, etc. verbal commits should be considered meaningless
 
In my humble opinion committed really doesn't happen until signing day. Up until signing day they really are just indicating, which school is their top pick. Now at some point coaches have to decide who they should save scholarships for as the numbers available is limited.
 
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In my humble opinion committed really doesn't happen until signing day. Up until signing day they really are just indicating, which school is their top pick. Now at some point coaches have to decide who they should save scholarships for as the numbers available is limited.
same - and I also think that’s @UCFloridaTech ‘s point.

Nothing wrong with kids changing their minds, but it is funny to me to see “💯committed” followed by “nah”, regardless of why.
 
Thanks for being respectful, with all due respect in return, I think you're misinterpreting my post.

I don't care that he flipped... Just don't use the term "committed" for the recruitment classification... Call it something else.

Those of us raised up, down home, where a man's good word and a handshake are all you need.
However, 99% of those people raised up where a man's good word is all you need isn't making decisions at 17 that anyone cares about. No one is tweeting them 24 hours a day, getting phone calls, telling them to commit to xyz because it can determine if they have a career making millions.

I don't know anyone who can look back at their 17 year old self and say they were mature enough to make life decisions. Generally the goal was not to mess up until you are experienced enough to make good decisions.
 
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However, 99% of those people raised up where a man's good word is all you need isn't making decisions at 17 that anyone cares about. No one is tweeting them 24 hours a day, getting phone calls, telling them to commit to xyz because it can determine if they have a career making millions.

I don't know anyone who can look back at their 17 year old self and say they were mature enough to make life decisions. Generally the goal was not to mess up until you are experienced enough to make good decisions.
Cool...

Find: "Committed"
Replace: "Considering" / "Leaning"

17 yr olds don't need 1 more poor example of true commitment. We already live in a video game "reset" society.

Ya feel me?
 
Thanks for being respectful, with all due respect in return, I think you're misinterpreting my post.

I don't care that he flipped... Just don't use the term "committed" for the recruitment classification... Call it something else.

Those of us raised up, down home, where a man's good word and a handshake are all you need.
My understanding is a *verbal commit* is a *tentative commit*.

I don't consider players ours until they sign.
 
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My understanding is a *verbal commit* is a *tentative commit*.

I don't consider players ours until they sign.
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We're talking past each other.

Tentative Commitment is an oxymoron, which is my point... Remove the word commitment, call it just Tentative, then when signed, "Committed"

Otherwise we're insinuating it's ok to verbally promise and back out of 'any' arrangement (beyond sports)... Reinforcing our contract / litigious-heavy society.
 
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He wants the limelight wouldn't be surprised each OV he takes don't end up in a commitment to that school.
 
Can "we" all come up with a more accurate term that "committed"? ...our society / culture (as a whole) seems to have difficulty with honest, disciplined, old fashioned commitment as it is.

Maybe "Considering"? "Leaning"? "Dating"?

...something that doesn't further desensitize kids to the term/concept of commitment.
Pledge…”A solemn promise or undertaking.”
 
I respectfully disagree.

People should be able to change their mind if they think there's something else they want.

He didn't sign any commitment paperwork. He just decided he wants something else.

On the flip side, this is a good thing for us because it means we'll get someone who wants to be here, but maybe is a little lower rating. Better for locker room chemistry.

Look at how he did it, he posted on insta "I ain't no Knight". No offense, but we should go for someone with a better attitude towards our program
A post with a double negative. Sadly, the school is not only losing an athlete but also a scholar...
 
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We're talking past each other.

Tentative Commitment is an oxymoron, which is my point... Remove the word commitment, call it just Tentative, then when signed, "Committed"

Otherwise we're insinuating it's ok to verbally promise and back out of 'any' arrangement (beyond sports)... Reinforcing our contract / litigious-heavy society.
…And that also lets the kid be “Tentative“ to one or every place they take a visit. They can then amplify their self-importance on their social media accounts multiple times, stroking their own ego, and the schools can basically ignore it because, well, it doesn’t mean anything. Seems right in line with the likes of people who grew up with participation trophies (if that was the case). Understandably, these are also 17-18 year olds who can be mesmerized and wowed by the process; Unable to make a thorough, thought-out, well-informed decision or they make I’ll-informed snap decisions.

…On the other hand, a mature young man is going to commit to a program and keep that commitment the best they can.
 
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In my humble opinion committed really doesn't happen until signing day. Up until signing day they really are just indicating, which school is their top pick. Now at some point coaches have to decide who they should save scholarships for as the numbers available is limited.
This. on a side note... WE ARE DOOMED!
 
…And that also lets the kid be “Tentative“ to one or every place they take a visit. They can then amplify their self-importance on their social media accounts multiple times, stroking their own ego, and the schools can basically ignore it because, well, it doesn’t mean anything. Seems right in line with the likes of people who grew up with participation trophies (if that was the case). Understandably, these are also 17-18 year olds who can be mesmerized and wowed by the process; Unable to make a thorough, thought-out, well-informed decision or they make I’ll-informed snap decisions.

…On the other hand, a mature young man is going to commit to a program and keep that commitment the best they can.

As long as there is thousands of people waiting on every tweet, post, ect and also willing to buy their merchandise, they are going to continue. Funniest is when it's fans that are old enough to be their parents that spend the most time following a 17 year old decision.
 
The top guys playing musical commitments aren’t hurting themselves because the top programs will take them in at any time. Who it DOES hurt are the guys one and two tiers down whose options are always in flux when this is going on. This is where you see offers pulled and schools stop calling. Now this kid has to forge sometimes new relationships and face new challenges (like would he qualify academically, would he want to move there, can family visit easily, or most important what is the quality of the co-eds).

This is how guys like the kid that was here for 5 minutes end up without a chair at the level he was previously getting offers at.
 
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I personally support him in his decision. I get we dont like decommitments and its a peculiar use of the word "committed" but we all know what it means when used in this context. Further, maybe they are 100% committed at the time but they learned more and things changed. We're all allowed to change our minds if we decide something different is better for us. Sure, actually being flaky will get you a reputation as being an unreliable person but one decommitment in your early life doesn't define you. Fair winds and following seas young man.
 
I personally support him in his decision. I get we dont like decommitments and its a peculiar use of the word "committed" but we all know what it means when used in this context. Further, maybe they are 100% committed at the time but they learned more and things changed. We're all allowed to change our minds if we decide something different is better for us. Sure, actually being flaky will get you a reputation as being an unreliable person but one decommitment in your early life doesn't define you. Fair winds and following seas young man.
On top of that, if someone flips from another school to UCF everyone gives first bumps and talks about how fantastic the coaching staff is doing. No one question the players character for being unreliable or flaky.
 
On top of that, if someone flips from another school to UCF everyone gives first bumps and talks about how fantastic the coaching staff is doing. No one question the players character for being unreliable or flaky.
Would much rather they flip before actually signing than hitting the portal unexpectedly like Jflash
 
Would much rather they flip before actually signing than hitting the portal unexpectedly like Jflash
This is just inevitable with coaching changes. If Gus leaves, bet a lot of players he pulled in goes as well. Just like the exodus at Auburn.
 
You have to admit that the coaches are getting a lot if DL guys to come in and visit during the recruitment period so it's both ways. And we always have the transfer portal to go to if the high school recruit route doesn't work. More pressure is on the H.S. recruits. Let is be...
 
“Today I am de-commiting from my wife. All glory to god. Respect my decision” —Today’s CFB recruits in 10 years probably
Every 17 year old boy ever to a girl on Prom night, I am totally committed to you. Come on, we will be together forever.
 
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I was 17 once and I distinctly remember where I wanted to go to school, who I wanted to be with, what my major was to be, had my HS job for four straight years etc. I don't claim to know it all but this idea of, "oH thEy'Re 17 and have the freedom to renege on one of the biggest commitments they'll make in life like willy nilly" is f*cking bullshit.

Man up, commit and stay true to your f*cking word...like an adult, which they're on the verge of becoming.
 
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