UCF not a playoff contender

[WhoCF]

Remember, a healthy and not sitting out LSU team was shut out by Bama. You can make the argument that losing Milton hurt, but LSU was down so many defenders that it has to balance out at some point there. The truth is that while Oklahoma and, even more so, Notre Dame are not as good as Clemson and Bama, and those two are just in their own league currently. An argument could be made for Georgia, but UCF just doesn't fit. They didn't have the resume to PROVE they belonged. When the OOC is mediocre and the AAC is the poor level it is, UCF can never get in. Not because of a bias, but because they don't have the proof that they belong.

Now go ahead and ignore everything I just said, make excuses, and throw around ad hominems like they're hot.

 

[hemightbejeremy]

There was no balance. Ucf had under 100 yards passing. You are an idiot.

 

[I ABear I]

Legit nobody gives a ****!

doubt this gets more than 5 replies

 

[Stevieknight]

That didn’t take long

 

[GeniusParks]

Remember, a healthy and not sitting out LSU team was shut out by Bama. You can make the argument that losing Milton hurt, but LSU was down so many defenders that it has to balance out at some point there. The truth is that while Oklahoma and, even more so, Notre Dame are not as good as Clemson and Bama, and those two are just in their own league currently. An argument could be made for Georgia, but UCF just doesn't fit. They didn't have the resume to PROVE they belonged. When the OOC is mediocre and the AAC is the poor level it is, UCF can never get in. Not because of a bias, but because they don't have the proof that they belong.

Now go ahead and ignore everything I just said, make excuses, and throw around ad hominems like they're hot.

Then what is the point of any G5 School playing football in FBS? The NCAA does not make a distinction b/w P5 & G5 schools. The idea that 70+ teams start the season with no chance of winning a National Championship regardless of the results that happen on the field seems un-American and illegal. In the Business World unfair trade competition would be unallowed via threat of lawusits.

The P5 cartel has a monopoly on the best talent to the detrement of the G5 schools. How is a UCF supposed to recruit OL/DL players of SEC caliber without the incentive of being able to play for National Championship?

What is your solution?
(1) Split the FBS P5 & G5 into separate, NCAA officially recognized divisions similar to FCS, DII, and DIII.

(2) The NCAA steps in and takes away control of Conference Alignment/Scheduling in order to equate schedules as fairly as possible among 130 teams.

(3) The G5 sues the P5 (CFB Playoff Committee) via Anti-Trust regulation forcing the P5 to either cough over millions or expand the Championship format to fairly include all eligible FBS schools?

 

[OtterKnight]

Remember, a healthy and not sitting out LSU team was shut out by Bama. You can make the argument that losing Milton hurt, but LSU was down so many defenders that it has to balance out at some point there. The truth is that while Oklahoma and, even more so, Notre Dame are not as good as Clemson and Bama, and those two are just in their own league currently. An argument could be made for Georgia, but UCF just doesn't fit. They didn't have the resume to PROVE they belonged. When the OOC is mediocre and the AAC is the poor level it is, UCF can never get in. Not because of a bias, but because they don't have the proof that they belong.

Now go ahead and ignore everything I just said, make excuses, and throw around ad hominems like they're hot.

Two of the actual playoff teams proved they didn't belong either. What's your point?

 

[G8RLegist]

What is your solution?

You know what the solution is, but your AD does not want to do it for financial reasons.

 

[hemightbejeremy]

You know what the solution is, but your AD does not want to do it for financial reasons.

Quit playing out of conference home games against P5 teams? Nah. We will “settle” for Stanford, Louisville and Pitt

You realize a win over what would have been a 4 loss gator team wouldn’t have move the needle.

 

[KnightPride4Life]

Name another sport at any level where you can go undefeated and not make the playoff? The simple fact is the game should be decided on the field and not in some boardroom by a bunch of suits looking at flawed metrics. UCF will continue to push that narrative. One game decided by a few ball bounces doesn’t change anything. ChargeOn.

 

[G8RLegist]

Quit playing out of conference home games against P5 teams? Nah. We will “settle” for Stanford, Louisville and Pitt
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Play higher ranked P5 teams. Spin it any way you want. Your SOS is killing you in rankings and in public perception.

 

[hemightbejeremy]

Play higher ranked P5 teams. Spin it any way you want. Your SOS is killing you in rankings and in public perception.

Sorry dude but which of Stanford, Pitt, and Louisville was lower ranked than Florida in 2017? I’ll hang up and listen.

 

[G8RLegist]

Sorry dude but which of Stanford, Pitt, and Louisville was lower ranked than Florida in 2017? I’ll hang up and listen.

Why are you so obsessed with playing the Gators? I never mentioned it.

 

[hemightbejeremy]

Why are you so obsessed with playing the Gators? I never mentioned it.

Well that’s the only series that has been mentioned in any media a 2 + neutral that they love to spout. You said UCFs AD doesn’t want to do it so I assumed you were referring to that. What other matchups has Danny White declined?

 

[MAC587]

Quit playing out of conference home games against P5 teams? Nah. We will “settle” for Stanford, Louisville and Pitt

You realize a win over what would have been a 4 loss gator team wouldn’t have move the needle.

might have moved it in the recruiting game, but y'all ducked

 

[G8RLegist]

Well that’s the only series that has been mentioned in any media a 2 + neutral that they love to spout. You said UCFs AD doesn’t want to do it so I assumed you were referring to that. What other matchups has Danny White declined?

I am not privy to Danny's negotiations with other schools, but if he hasn't contacted other P5 schools he is the worst AD ever. I happen to believe that he is an excellent AD and has properly used Florida's offer to get additional press. UF played LSU for homecoming this year. I am certain Danny could find someone highly ranked to schedule UCF for one of their home games. What they may not do is schedule a home and home. That's where the financial part comes into play.

And it wasn't a 2+Neutral that everyone here likes to repeat. The emails merely said 2 in Gainesville and one in Orlando.

 

[hemightbejeremy]

I am not privy to Danny's negotiations with other schools, but if he hasn't contacted other P5 schools he is the worst AD ever. I happen to believe that he is an excellent AD and has properly used Florida's offer to get additional press. UF played LSU for homecoming this year. I am certain Danny could find someone highly ranked to schedule UCF for one of their home games. What they may not do is schedule a home and home. That's where the financial part comes into play.

He just scheduled 1-1 with Louisville. When UNC was scheduled they coming of a season where they lost to Clemson in the ACC title game after starting 11-1. Point is you don’t schedule the week before and it is a craps shoot who will be ranked. UF is good now but also has been bad several times in the past decade. Outside of maybe Alabama, Clemson and Oklahoma there aren’t many consistently ranked teams. So UCF should sign up for a 2+neutral and by the time the games are played UF could be 4-7 again.

 

[Legendary Eagle]

Then what is the point of any G5 School playing football in FBS? The NCAA does not make a distinction b/w P5 & G5 schools. The idea that 70+ teams start the season with no chance of winning a National Championship regardless of the results that happen on the field seems un-American and illegal. In the Business World unfair trade competition would be unallowed via threat of lawusits.

The P5 cartel has a monopoly on the best talent to the detrement of the G5 schools. How is a UCF supposed to recruit OL/DL players of SEC caliber without the incentive of being able to play for National Championship?

What is your solution?
(1) Split the FBS P5 & G5 into separate, NCAA officially recognized divisions similar to FCS, DII, and DIII.

(2) The NCAA steps in and takes away control of Conference Alignment/Scheduling in order to equate schedules as fairly as possible among 130 teams.

(3) The G5 sues the P5 (CFB Playoff Committee) via Anti-Trust regulation forcing the P5 to either cough over millions or expand the Championship format to fairly include all eligible FBS schools?

You have 4 opportunities every season to make a statement. But your AD has intentionally decided to make your schedule as easy as possible. And I don’t blame him. It is a lot easier to get press by winning games against weak opponents and crowing about how great you are than it is to lose to good football teams and not have a leg to stand on. Seems to be a common theme with American conference teams. Play pitifully weak schedules, and let ESPN (who has invested interest in the AAC) hype you up. Every bowl season shows how pathetic the AAC is when you struggle to win 1 or 2 bowl games.

You want to make a name for yourself? You want respect? Earn your way to the top the way previous elite non-Power 5 schools did. Go on the road and beat elite teams. Stop hiding behind your weak conference and weak OOC wins over bottom tier opponents and making fake claims about how great you are. Beating Austin Pea and SC State isn’t going to get you any respect.

 

[G8RLegist]

UF is good now but also has been bad several times in the past decade. Outside of maybe Alabama, Clemson and Oklahoma there aren’t many consistently ranked teams. So UCF should sign up for a 2+neutral and by the time the games are played UF could be 4-7 again.

UF has not been bad several times. We've been bad the entire time.

Look at the top 25 over the past 5-8 years and you will see many teams are consistently ranked in the top 25. And there goes your phantom 2+Neutral again. I am saying go play the big boys without demanding an return game at all. You can play 6 home games and still play the big boys away. You had 7 home games this year. Your AD has chosen money over respect. I don't meant that to sound as bad as it does. Danny made the right choice. Until your boosters start writing bigger checks, he has to be extremely careful with scheduling.

 

[soflanolefan87]

If one looks at the "Power 5" conferences, you'll see on one conference with multiple teams that can compete for a National Championship..... The SEC. Alabama and Georgia. The ACC has Clemson, until Dabo goes to Alabama when Saban retires. Ohio State from the Big Ten. Notre Dame was a fluke and a fraud because they don't play football in a conference and don't have to win a conference championship to get into the playoffs.. (Wonder why???) One similar glaring point to this fraud called the CFP is that you don't have to win your conference to get into the playoff. Georgia is this year's example. A solution that's fair is an eight team playoff with the conference champions following conferences: AAC, ACC, Big 12, Big Ten, Pac 12 and SEC. Add the two highest ranked none conference champions to fill out the eight team bracket. Add in the Notre Dame exclusion rule (They have to play football in a conference). There you go folks.... Easy peasy....

 

[hemightbejeremy]

UF has not been bad several times. We've been bad the entire time.

Look at the top 25 over the past 5-8 years and you will see many teams are consistently ranked in the top 25. And there goes your phantom 2+Neutral again. I am saying go play the big boys without demanding an return game at all. You can play 6 home games and still play the big boys away. You had 7 home games this year. Your AD has chosen money over respect. I don't meant that to sound as bad as it does. Danny made the right choice. Until your boosters start writing bigger checks, he has to be extremely careful with scheduling.

To play only P5 teams away and still play 6 home games that requires playing 2 games against FCS or G5 FBS that will play a 1 and none. The math doesn’t add up any other way. As it stands UCF already plays 2 P5 games (home and away) EVERY single year. So they wont be able to schedule any more P5 teams and also have a shitty home schedule. No thanks.

 

[jcat2410]

Still need an 8 team playoff IMHO.....they probably would have won today with Milton.

 

[GoKnights2003]

Remember, a healthy and not sitting out LSU team was shut out by Bama. You can make the argument that losing Milton hurt, but LSU was down so many defenders that it has to balance out at some point there. The truth is that while Oklahoma and, even more so, Notre Dame are not as good as Clemson and Bama, and those two are just in their own league currently. An argument could be made for Georgia, but UCF just doesn't fit. They didn't have the resume to PROVE they belonged. When the OOC is mediocre and the AAC is the poor level it is, UCF can never get in. Not because of a bias, but because they don't have the proof that they belong.

Now go ahead and ignore everything I just said, make excuses, and throw around ad hominems like they're hot.

We feel sorry for you. To the rest of us however He's ummm.... "special". After all of the in- yes inbreeding, he's a a little confused as to which trailer he should be sleeping in. Between sisters and moms and cousins he gets confused.

 

[U2fan]

If one looks at the "Power 5" conferences, you'll see on one conference with multiple teams that can compete for a National Championship..... The SEC. Alabama and Georgia. The ACC has Clemson, until Dabo goes to Alabama when Saban retires. Ohio State from the Big Ten. Notre Dame was a fluke and a fraud because they don't play football in a conference and don't have to win a conference championship to get into the playoffs.. (Wonder why???) One similar glaring point to this fraud called the CFP is that you don't have to win your conference to get into the playoff. Georgia is this year's example. A solution that's fair is an eight team playoff with the conference champions following conferences: AAC, ACC, Big 12, Big Ten, Pac 12 and SEC. Add the two highest ranked none conference champions to fill out the eight team bracket. Add in the Notre Dame exclusion rule (They have to play football in a conference). There you go folks.... Easy peasy....

A Nole calling the Irish a fluke and a fraud after the Irish pummeled them 42-13 is rich......if thats the case you guys ar fvcking atrocious huh?

 

[awilli]

Name another sport at any level where you can go undefeated and not make the playoff? The simple fact is the game should be decided on the field and not in some boardroom by a bunch of suits looking at flawed metrics. UCF will continue to push that narrative. One game decided by a few ball bounces doesn’t change anything. ChargeOn.

That's like saying the Boston red socks were undefeated playing AAA baseball and now should be in the series. Play 12 weeks of REAL football and then see what you have to show. 6-6 in sec play, maybe

 

[hemightbejeremy]

That's like saying the Boston red socks were undefeated playing AAA baseball and now should be in the series. Play 12 weeks of REAL football and then see what you have to show. 6-6 in sec play, maybe

Except AAA baseball is a separate league of baseball. UCF plays FBS football which is the same league as Alabama and Clemson.

 

[GoKnights2003]

A Nole calling the Irish a fluke and a fraud after the Irish pummeled them 42-13 is rich......if thats the case you guys ar fvcking atrocious huh?

Why is this on our board?

 

[Legendary Eagle]

Except AAA baseball is a separate league of baseball. UCF plays FBS football which is the same league as Alabama and Clemson.

First real competition in 2 seasons, and you lost. Beating the dregs of FBS like Houston High, Memphis State, Tulane, etc doesn’t impress anyone.

 

[hemightbejeremy]

First real competition in 2 seasons, and you lost. Beating the dregs of FBS like Houston High, Memphis State, Tulane, etc doesn’t impress anyone.

Don’t forget duh bulls. That was sure a curbstomping this year.

Also UCF didn’t play Houston or Tulane the past 2 seasons. Swing and a miss.

 

[Jagster9969]

UF has not been bad several times. We've been bad the entire time.

Look at the top 25 over the past 5-8 years and you will see many teams are consistently ranked in the top 25. And there goes your phantom 2+Neutral again. I am saying go play the big boys without demanding an return game at all. You can play 6 home games and still play the big boys away. You had 7 home games this year. Your AD has chosen money over respect. I don't meant that to sound as bad as it does. Danny made the right choice. Until your boosters start writing bigger checks, he has to be extremely careful with scheduling.

Dude there are many teams like Texas, LSU, Florida, Georgia, West Virgina, Oklahoma State, Michigan, Ohio State, Washington, Washington State, USC, Michigan State, Wisconsin, TA&M, Miss State, Miami, Florida State and the like that would put you on the map and can be beat at any given time if you're good enough to do so. And you can demand they play at your place or even a neutral field because what's in it for them? They have a tough conference to go through for their strength of schedule, you don't. You can't bitch and complain if you don't want to challenge at least 3 or 4 of these teams each year. Hell with a schedule like that you wouldn't even have to go undeafeated. Beat most of them and the team you're supposed to beat while losing 1 game and you're in.

 

[Legendary Eagle]

Don’t forget duh bulls. That was sure a curbstomping this year.

Also UCF didn’t play Houston or Tulane the past 2 seasons. Swing and a miss.

True. USF is a joke too...like the rest of your conference. When’s the last time time the American had a winning bowl record?

 

[hemightbejeremy]

True. USF is a joke too...like the rest of your conference. When’s the last time time the American had a winning bowl record?

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