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He got us to a BCS Bowl, which we won, and still have no alumni support. That is what is pathetic... not just firm_bizzle
Or even putting the BCS Bowl aside ... 3 division/conference titles in the past 3 years.

But I figured this out when the turnout for the C-USA Championship in 2010 was absolutely pathetic. The kids win a lot of games and to the title game, and people don't bother showing up.

In any case, I do agree and cannot believe we don't have free unis from our sponsor. At the same time, I'm tired of people claiming it's unis, lack of #1 jerseys and lack of names on jerseys, that are the root of all evil in UCF.
 
If you are saying that what you wear doesn't have an effect on psychology and motivation, then we would all be sandal-foot at board meetings.
That's an apples-to-oranges comparison. An apples-to-oranges comparison of uniforms would be football jersey v. private school uniform -- the latter being barely functional, but wholly inappropriate, on a football field.

What you really meant to say, as an apples-to-apples comparison ...

You want the custom tailored Italian threads in the boardroom, instead of accepting someone who got last year's Men's Wearhouse styles at K&G Superstore.

I'm fine with people wearing K&G in the boardroom. I don't need custom tailored Italian threads. It makes no f'ing difference when it comes to on-the-field performance.
 
That's an apples-to-oranges comparison. An apples-to-oranges comparison of uniforms would be football jersey v. private school uniform -- the latter being barely functional, but wholly inappropriate, on a football field.

What you really meant to say, as an apples-to-apples comparison ...

You want the custom tailored Italian threads in the boardroom, instead of accepting someone who got last year's Men's Wearhouse styles at K&G Superstore.

I'm fine with people wearing K&G in the boardroom. I don't need custom tailored Italian threads. It makes no f'ing difference when it comes to on-the-field performance.


Really...
 
Have to admit, that all black with the Florida peninsula helmet is pretty BA. Have no idea why you guys don't own the black in your school's colors. Other schools make it a gimmick just to do black uniforms, you could do it every game legitimately.
 
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Have to admit, that all black with the Florida peninsula helmet is pretty BA. Have no idea why you guys don't own the black in yours school colors. Other schools make it a gimmick just to do black uniforms, you could do it every game legitimately.


We have been screaming for black's return full-time since 2006. Gold should be the alternate. Not the PRIMARY DAMN SCHOOL COLOR. smh.
 
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And this is the reason why we're not winning?

No, but it could be part and parcel.

Question for you. Are there duds in your closet that make you feel ready to take on the world? Just think what that additional confidence does on a football field, in front of thousands.

Now imagine those are the outfits in which you could tackle the world every day, but there's an old man stopping you every time you walk out the door telling you to don attire that is old, boring, and trite. That old man came with your house. Do you move? Or do you not take up residence in the first place?

Probably a piss poor apples to oranges analogy, but I am sure some will actually get it.
 
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Recruiting does have an impact on how jerseys look. Not having names on the back is another bad recruiting touch too.
I think that's what I asked ...

"And this is the reason why we're not winning?" -- UCFBS​

Most have equated us not winning to recruiting. So it was the jerseys that kept us from having good recruiting classes in 2011-2012 and 2012-2013, right?

Let's act like we are a trendy school.
I think I distinctly remember an article from 2013 where O'Leary, Spurrier, et al. were highlighted for being "old skool" coaches that still have a lot of success and, more importantly, produce a lot of talent. I'm still trying to find that old article (and it was posted on the old board).

To me ... how the coaches prepares kids for life, even the NFL, is far more important to them than jerseys.
 
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We could wear these vs USF and ESPN could run a SportsNation poll during the broadcast for which one is more phallic like.
 
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We did pretty well with those urine coloured nameless jerseys the past few years, but I'm sure we would've won the national title if they were cooler and had names on them.

How many national titles have Oregon and Maryland won with all their uniform combos? Penn State, Texas and LSU use two basic uniforms, LSU is really only one, and have done pretty well for themselves.
 
We did pretty well with those urine coloured nameless jerseys the past few years, but I'm sure we would've won the national title if they were cooler and had names on them.

How many national titles have Oregon and Maryland won with all their uniform combos? Penn State, Texas and LSU use two basic uniforms, LSU is really only one, and have done pretty well for themselves.
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Sandy urine. Awesome! Nobody screws up black and gold quite like UCF.

Feck, now we're debating uniform color to distract us from the on-field performance of our program.
 
What don't I get? Your uniform should have no barring on where you choice to play football and no impact on how you perform.
When was the last time you were an 18 year old impressionable football recruit?

Thought so.

Dude, nobody is saying it HAS to be important, but saying that it isn't is asinine, whether it actually is important or not. Yeah, winning this, winning that, but cool uniforms are cool, period. I'm not crazy about our color "scheme" right now, although our uniforms aren't bad, but it's just a reality of the business: kids like cool uniforms.
 
Let's start with you comparing us to schools with tradition. Tradition alone begets recruits. When you lack tradition, you need pizzazz. Looking good on field is one means of obtaining that end.

GOL is trying to build tradition. Whenever we are on TV the announcers also talk about how we're a well coached hard nosed defense first team, it might not be true but that's the perception we have. We aren't known as a gimmicky school with silly uniform combos and dumb slogans on the backs of the jersey.
 
GOL is trying to build tradition. Whenever we are on TV the announcers also talk about how we're a well coached hard nosed defense first team, it might not be true but that's the perception we have. We aren't known as a gimmicky school with silly uniform combos and dumb slogans on the backs of the jersey.
Right now, we are known as a program that can't get their shit together and has fallen from grace in less than 2 seasons.

Why are you being absolute about your statements? Is it impossible in your eyes to be a good team / good program and also have pizzazz and look cool on the field? Why does it have to be either or?
 
When was the last time you were an 18 year old impressionable football recruit?

Thought so.

Dude, nobody is saying it HAS to be important, but saying that it isn't is asinine, whether it actually is important or not. Yeah, winning this, winning that, but cool uniforms are cool, period. I'm not crazy about our color "scheme" right now, although our uniforms aren't bad, but it's just a reality of the business: kids like cool uniforms.

I think it's asinine that kids are picking schools because of uniform choices. I want kids who are coming here to win games no matter how terrible the uniforms make them look. Kids should be choosing a school based on education, atmosphere, coaching, tradition and potential to make it to the pros. We have just about all that, if uniforms are the top of their lost maybe we shouldn't be looking at those kind of players.
 
I think it's asinine that kids are picking schools because of uniform choices. I want kids who are coming here to win games no matter how terrible the uniforms make them look. Kids should be choosing a school based on education, atmosphere, coaching, tradition and potential to make it to the pros. We have just about all that, if uniforms are the top of their lost maybe we shouldn't be looking at those kind of players.

I don't know the age range of the people that hate the idea of names on jerseys and alternate unis but it doesn't matter if fans hate it, Recruits Love it.

Ohio State doesn't need to pull those gimmicks bc of their tradition, fan support, and recent success but guess what they did for their last Home Game on Saturday Night?
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Bc Meyer knows that Recruits LOVE IT. UCLA did the same thing Thursday night despite it not being one of their traditional colors
 
Right now, we are known as a program that can't get their shit together and has fallen from grace in less than 2 seasons.

Why are you being absolute about your statements? Is it impossible in your eyes to be a good team / good program and also have pizzazz and look cool on the field? Why does it have to be either or?

I don't see us as a program who's fallen from grace, we're having a down year. This is college you only have these kids for a few years, there's going to be some cycles that aren't as good.

It could be both but it should be winning above all else which we have been doing fairly well under GOL. We also could be a traditional team like an Alabama who doesn't care about pizzazz they just go out and win.
 
I think it's asinine that kids are picking schools because of uniform choices. I want kids who are coming here to win games no matter how terrible the uniforms make them look. Kids should be choosing a school based on education, atmosphere, coaching, tradition and potential to make it to the pros. We have just about all that, if uniforms are the top of their lost maybe we shouldn't be looking at those kind of players.


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Yeah...god-forbid a kid comes down to 2 different programs in the end and makes a decision based on a little extra visual and theme progression over another school that takes an "old school" drab approach.

A lot of decisions come down the the aesthetics, logo and theme when everything else is equal. Whatever happened to putting a little extra in the fringe aspects? In business, those are called "point of sale" items and can mean the difference of a loss for the day. Stop being an old man...

I hope UCF could be known for having a bad-ass program with a bad-ass theme.

Right now it is a shit-program with urine yellow.

Some of you are just not forward-thinking and cannot think from the perspective of what a potential recruit might think. It's astounding.

"Well, they should be looking at it this way."
 
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The jerseys are to get kids to make emotional decisions. Nothing about our program gets a recruit to make an emotional decision.
 
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The jerseys are to get kids to make emotional decisions. Nothing about our program gets a recruit to make an emotional decision.


Nail on the head. When a kid is sitting at a table and needs to decide then and there, the extra step done for aesthetics can really be a make or break. It may not be preferred for the old timers here...but beggars can't be chosers can they?
 
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What don't I get? Your uniform should have no barring on where you choice to play football and no impact on how you perform.

Really...ask one of the players off the record if he wants his name on his jersey. If you don't think trendy stuff doesn't help recruiting then you're naive. Even Notre Dame has alternative unis now. We don't have their tradition either.

We need uni upgrades, names on back, and facilities upgrades. We are not the Yankees where we can get away with no names.
 
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I see no point because that logic is horseshit. Changing uniforms has not hurt any identity of any university in any way.

Last time I checked...Hawaii is Hawaii and known as Hawaii regardless of shedding and re-accepting the "rainbow" identity.

For being a young university with relatively young alumni, our thought processes around uniforms and colors are so damn conservative. White on pale yellow. Pale yellow on white. Other teams, yes even in the American do some great things with their designs and that extends to their field paint. UCF has been just awful about pushing the envelope. We're not even followers of the others. We simply do nothing.

Agree with you. Changing uniforms has not hurt any identity of any university in any way. It's great to see universities deepen their colors, brighten their colors, change the colors on uniforms, etc.
 
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