What are your thoughts on the TRANSFER PORTAL
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It giveth and taketh...In Gus We Trust...
I think the portal will settle down for us next year when Gus has a full class of his guys along with another one coming. The schools with the coaches changing seem to be the ones where there is the most volatility.
I like the idea of the portal overall, it was designed for a guy like Jerome Ford of Cincy. Buried on Alabamas depth chart, transfers to a new place and is now going to be a draft pick.
I am afraid it will only be a matter of time before we see it used to start building “Dream Teams”. A school with a shady head coach and deep pocket boosters hand picking players from other schools.
I like the idea of the portal overall, it was designed for a guy like Jerome Ford of Cincy. Buried on Alabamas depth chart, transfers to a new place and is now going to be a draft pick.
I am afraid it will only be a matter of time before we see it used to start building “Dream Teams”. A school with a shady head coach and deep pocket boosters hand picking players from other schools.
In college football the single most important position is the QB1. This year UCF lost the single most important position to the portal. Are we to become to players what we are too coaches , a stepping stone to a bigger NIL deal? I get kids wanting to play where they want to at and seek bigger opportunities, but it would be nice to see young men believe in their school and team and want to build something great where they are.
I think it will level out once Gus is here for a couple years and especially when the BigXII logo is painted on the field. If DG stayed at UCF I would say this season the portal was a good thing. Losing your stud starting QB1 though ,well at best it's neutral but love him or hate him we all know what hole that is right there with him gone.
I think it will level out once Gus is here for a couple years and especially when the BigXII logo is painted on the field. If DG stayed at UCF I would say this season the portal was a good thing. Losing your stud starting QB1 though ,well at best it's neutral but love him or hate him we all know what hole that is right there with him gone.
People are going to have to accept the volatility of the system, and losing players is regular business. Its not college sports as we've known, its more like the NFL free agency or even like college basketball which is nothing but players transferring around. So far we've benefitted from it I'd argue with more players making an impact here than transferring out and having impact elsewhere. Its good for media and buzz, but if you like program stability, close your eyes and plug your ears.
Overall, I don't like it purely as a "fan" of CFB. I used to love college basketball in the 80s/90s. You would know the players on many teams and could follow the programs as they progressed from year to year. Now basketball is so tough to watch bc it's a new team almost every year. I'm afraid football is going to turn into that and that sucks. Again, this is purely from a "fan" perspective.
I truly believe that very soon the G5 will become like minor league college football. “Son we don’t have room for you this year at Alabama but you go to UAB next year and show me what you can do. Do well and you can transfer here next year, get you a nice NIL deal and you will be set”.
A high percentage of established players that have transferred have been to reunite with former coaches that they had longstanding relationships previously. You will get a few that will jump regardless, but generally players want to be with staff they are familiar with or move to a school closer to home.
Transfer IN: 4
Transfer OUT and found new Program: 5
Transfer OUT and hasn't found a new Program: 11
Some of these player egos are going to be crushed when they can't find new homes. Bentavious Thompson left the team in August. Didn't officially hit the transfer portal till October. Still sitting in the portal today.
There are going to be guys who follow coaches. Despite all the other stuff, at his core DG wanted to be with Lebby. Bethune wanted to be with Randy Shannon.
Transfer OUT and found new Program: 5
Transfer OUT and hasn't found a new Program: 11
Some of these player egos are going to be crushed when they can't find new homes. Bentavious Thompson left the team in August. Didn't officially hit the transfer portal till October. Still sitting in the portal today.
There are going to be guys who follow coaches. Despite all the other stuff, at his core DG wanted to be with Lebby. Bethune wanted to be with Randy Shannon.
I think it's more of the same, but a lot more. I still think kids who value playing time will still transfer out for better opportunities to play more. But absolutely the G5 will be the developmental league for the younger kids to build resumes with.
I think a player who chooses to leave through the portal for greener pastures should be blackballed forever from UCF. No coming back later for anything. No mention in records, stats, nothing. TWSRN.
I think Bethune’s move probably bothers me the most as a fan. Dude got an upgrade at DC ,
Played great and still leaves
Played great and still leaves
Prediction: College football suffers from the perspective that they've already set up a system where the super-elite players are flooding into 4-6 programs. Not only do they have super-elite players. They will now be there consistently, with depth. Everybody else is going to have roster churn out the ying-yang which is never a good thing, causing even more separation between those 4-6 programs and everybody else. Sure, like the Premier League, some team might pop up every 5 years that breaks into the top 5 or so but it is very short-lived and the same 6-7 teams generally remain on top every year for the last 20 years.
Prediction: Major/Minor bowl games will become spectacles (aka as "garbage") where backups and scout team kids get to play because so many kids are sitting out. That bowl game last night (LSU vs KState) was an abomination and should have never been played. They should have to refund the money for everyon'e tickets. LSU looked like they had the scout team out there playing because they only had 38 scholarship players available, including playing a kid at QB that for the last 5 years was playing CB/WR. 0 pass attempts prior to yesterday.
Prediction: The NFL suffers some from this (or maybe the better way to state this is success will be a little more random). Much like the NBA, as more and more churn occurs you know less and less about players and where they are in their development, and what that top-level development might be. The draft becomes even less predictable and more and more busts will happen (like the NBA). At the same time more lower draft picks (and free agents) really blow up, because they get into a consistent system in the NFL and blossom.
Prediction: I'll still be a Knight fan for life but if they ruin college football and turn it into European soccer, my love for the game will evaporate, and so might my money that flows into it via tickets, road trips, bowls, etc... I'm a patient person and we'll have to wait a few years to see how the sport is handling it, and if it makes good decisions to adjust to all the changes so in the meantime we can continue to get on our message boards and b_tch and whine, like I kind of am doing in this post.
Prediction: Major/Minor bowl games will become spectacles (aka as "garbage") where backups and scout team kids get to play because so many kids are sitting out. That bowl game last night (LSU vs KState) was an abomination and should have never been played. They should have to refund the money for everyon'e tickets. LSU looked like they had the scout team out there playing because they only had 38 scholarship players available, including playing a kid at QB that for the last 5 years was playing CB/WR. 0 pass attempts prior to yesterday.
Prediction: The NFL suffers some from this (or maybe the better way to state this is success will be a little more random). Much like the NBA, as more and more churn occurs you know less and less about players and where they are in their development, and what that top-level development might be. The draft becomes even less predictable and more and more busts will happen (like the NBA). At the same time more lower draft picks (and free agents) really blow up, because they get into a consistent system in the NFL and blossom.
Prediction: I'll still be a Knight fan for life but if they ruin college football and turn it into European soccer, my love for the game will evaporate, and so might my money that flows into it via tickets, road trips, bowls, etc... I'm a patient person and we'll have to wait a few years to see how the sport is handling it, and if it makes good decisions to adjust to all the changes so in the meantime we can continue to get on our message boards and b_tch and whine, like I kind of am doing in this post.
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to everyone saying this is just like the NFL no this is worse. It would be like the entire league being on 1 year deals. They also have tampering rules and a salary cap.
That's it right there, really anyone that is pumping millions into college football is the reason why we are where we are. People want it to be an amateur sport, but then give fist pumps when they see 7 figure donations, 8 figure tv contracts, giving coaching staff 8 figures, spending millions on a lazy river. None of that is amateur sports...
We’ve had hundreds of transfers in and out well before the portal. Why is everyone up in arms now? Marquette Smith came to us in 90s from FSU and made the NFL. How many players have we had that have been great for us that were transfers? A lot. How many that have left have been great? The list is a lot shorter.
Because suddenly it seems unfair, even though the portal is a two way street and players who could have started at their previous programs came to UCF and everyone celebrated it. If Caleb Williams said he wanted to come to UCF, everyone would be shouting from the rooftops and many would buy his merchandise if he has some.
NIL is going to get canned eventually. The corruption already is palpable. Will only get worse.
even Lane Kiffin is complaining about it. I don’t think it gets canned but regulation is needed
It will likely be morphed, but not canned. Too much money in College football, coaches are getting $100 million contracts. If they want to say players can't get money, coaches salaries and program profits should be capped. Want amateur sports, give all the millions/billions in revenue to outside of athletics for the universities.
I agree, so basically the G5 schools could develop the players and once they peak then picked up by the power schools. O lineman would be a good example they normally take time to develop the foot work to succeed at that position.
Not a fan as us fans like to follow a player from freshman to senior. Can’t get too excited about t recruiting anymore
Recruiting definitely takes a back seat to the portal if this continues. You’ll still need to recruit and hope to god they work out, stay and hopefully sell a bunch of socks.
The NCAA needs to enact some sort of transfer reform. Transfers should not be allowed until AFTER bowl season. In fact, the NCAA should put in place a tampering rule forbidding it much in the same way the NBA has tampering rules before free agency begins, because the transfer portal is basically that - free agency.
As for stopping the kids from skipping bowl games for fear of getting hurt and ruining their potential draft stock, you got me. Maybe a universal insurance plan for players that skip out that is funded by University endowments ?
Not sure.
As for stopping the kids from skipping bowl games for fear of getting hurt and ruining their potential draft stock, you got me. Maybe a universal insurance plan for players that skip out that is funded by University endowments ?
Not sure.
First, European soccer aka football, doesn't have a college system feeding their sport. Colleges and Universities are for going to school, not for supporting professional sports leagues. They are generally FREE. The vast majority of European football players are scouted from grammar school and supported through HS when they turn professional. Sooo any comparison with European soccer, as you call it, is moot!
Between that and the NIL, unless the rules are modified, it’s going to ruin college athletics. The rules changes need to come soon.
If not it’s going to be the wild west out there.
If not it’s going to be the wild west out there.
So if this turns out to be true will teams like Alabama start to recruit less high school kids, and just build a portal all star players every year. This could get interesting
If staffs don't build relationships with players out of high school it will be a lot harder to bring them in later on.
Don’t like how the portal and NIL function together, there may be guys that transfer every year now just to chase new sock markets.
Dont they do this already. AL gets the recruits that they want, then Ohio State, not sure what happened to Clemson they had the fast lane for a few years. The snowball rolls down the hill until all the scholarships are filled.
Transfer and immediately eligible just loops the process for more players every year. Reshuffle the deck if you will. I agree there should be a smaller window to Transfer in/out. Its very hard to keep track of.
Some of these 18 year old kids don't know what they're doing (I will say that) 
I was talking about us more than teams on Alabamas level. Alabama is still going to get the best recruits. But who knows where it goes…
With Perry and the two LBs coming in, one of them also being a real speedster we're going to have a dogfight next year with those better teams we struggled keeping up with. Our defense played great last season for us especially against the Gators. The improvements through the transfers will improve us enough along with the loss of Cincy's QB and RB to beat them at home next season. This is without seeing all of Gus' improvements on offense. Cincy proved that their offense was suspect already against Alabama. Look for a real dogfight with UCF coming out on top next season I'm glad that we wont have to depend on DG or any QB to win the big games for us next season. Question: How many come from behind wins did DG get our program?
I'm glad that we wont have to depend on DG or any QB to win the big games for us next season. Question: How many come from behind wins did DG get our program?
Totally agree. Perhaps if they would go back to sitting out a year especially if your coach isn't leaving, things might calm down.
Maybe I wasn’t clear on my point. My point has nothing to do with players. It has to do with how those leagues are set up. European soccer has created their leagues so that, for instance, Man City has a 240 million dollar payroll, and Burnley has a 28 million dollar payroll. There is no way Burnley can compete because of the way they have set their leagues up, unless they just go way, way, way beyond what they may be capable of spending. But, if Burnley somehow finds some good prospect, they are screwed as well because then Man City will just buy the kid eventually anyways. Thus even in the Premiership, a group of teams essentially just become additional farm systems for the top 6-7 squads (because their advantages are so lopsided). I don’t want to see college football turned into this. It’s already heading this way but they could step in and try and fix things but they don’t.
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I wonder how many interns were brought in to monitor the portal for these online sites? They all want to be the first to break the scoop.
I guess that is the Progressive commercial dad in me though??
I guess that is the Progressive commercial dad in me though??
