Which Side of Ball should "Bear" the Responsibility of this Monumental Loss Offense or Defense?

[ReturnOf]

Although the offense did the defense no favors (fumble scoop for TD). I believe the burden in on the defense to secure a 35-7 lead in the 3rd quarter. The routinely poor tackling is why we could NOT get off that field and Baylor was like 10-15 on 3rd downs.

For the last two games our DC has been outmatched by a reserve RB and now a team sitting near the bottom of the conference.

 

[AuburnLegacy_1]

UCF will have a new "co-coordinator" or two on defense next season.

 

[LoboCane]

UCF will have a new "co-coordinator" or two on defense next season.

The issue would be best solved with a new head coach.

 

[PositYourself]

There's no option for "Your mother".

 

[Central Floridave]

 

[AuburnLegacy_1]

The issue would be best solved with a new head coach.

Good point. Maybe Christobowless will be available after Gus boots for Arkansas.

 

[Nautiknight]

In both K State and Baylor if the D just makes the other team punt at least 1 time with Baylor and maybe holds K State twice , UCF wins everything being equal .

 

[ReturnOf]

In both K State and Baylor if the D just makes the other team punt at least 1 time with Baylor and maybe holds K State twice , UCF wins everything being equal .

Exactly!!! Just one timely stop and we win both...

 

[AuburnLegacy_1]

In both K State and Baylor if the D just makes the other team punt at least 1 time with Baylor and maybe holds K State twice , UCF wins everything being equal .

If Hudson doesn't interfere with the defender on the rub route, if UCF doesn't get a phantom alignment penalty on the tunnel screen, if Boomer makes a routine field goal, or if Boomer makes a last second NFL-caliber field goal, or if Hudson draws a pass interference makeup call on Timmy McClain's last pass, UCF wins against Baylor.

Despite all that, UCF has to make a timely stop or two. TWill could do that.

 

[akhenaten]

Defense, 2 weeks in a row. If you go up 35-7 midway through the 3rd quarter, it would be nice if you scored more points, but it absolutely should not be necessary. The offense moved the ball all night, even in the 4th, but made some costly mistakes when the pressure mounted.

McClain and Harvey didn't do the defense any favors with their late turnovers, especially Harvey's fumble. But the defense was just awful and couldn't stop Baylor when it counted. We only needed one player on D to make the big play in the 4th, and nobody stepped up. They couldn't even stop low-percentage 2-point conversions. If they stop even one of them we go to OT, if they stop both we win.

Georgia Tech demoted its defensive coordinator after their loss this weekend, and another coordinator got fired. Addison Williams seems like a good guy but he might be in over his head.

 

[Gwoz]

It's on the defense, but the offense should be able to eat up the clock when they have a huge lead. The announcers repeatedly pointed out that the offense was snapping the ball with 10-20 seconds left in the play clock.

 

[jtGoldenKnights]

Coaching

 

[surfer98]

Game management by the coaches and lack of execution by the players. Up 35-7 you start to kill the clock. Snap the ball at 2 seconds every time and run the ball. Long sustained drives would have ended the game. The loss was the responsibility of all involved. I include the fans that left early in the game.

 

[Lord Christopher]

Both sides share in The loss. The offense because the couldn’t sustain drives, score points and use the clock. Defense because we are not good tacklers and have a hard time stopping anybody.

 

[AuburnLegacy_1]

the offense was snapping the ball with 10-20 seconds left in the play clock.

Game management by the coaches and lack of execution by the players. Up 35-7 you start to kill the clock. Snap the ball at 2 seconds every time and run the ball. Long sustained drives would have ended the game. ... I include the fans that left early in the game.

The only rebuttal is without those seconds, Boomer doesn't get a chance to win it.

The flip side is with those seconds burned off, Boomer's services may not have been needed.

BTW, I include the fans, too, because the margin of victory is so small you need every advantage. I will take "a 4-year-old eating Dip Dots" over an empty seat 10 out of 10 times.

A 35-7 lead isn't safe in this league.

 

[LoboCane]

Read the replies. UCF fans have figured Malzahn out.

 

[AuburnLegacy_1]

Read the replies. UCF fans have figured Malzahn out.

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You discredit your own posts with this Tweet. You said Gus didn't take responsibility for the loss, but he clearly says "It begins with me."

 

[LoboCane]

You discredit your own posts with this Tweet. You said Gus didn't take responsibility for the loss, but he clearly says "It begins with me."

Taking responsibility is being forthcoming, admitting that he is the play caller, that he did not make any adjustments and that he is failing in evaluating talent. The coaches he hires are people that have coached or played for him before aka weak yes men. The last 3 games vs P5…0/3. Since 2022 Malzahn is 1/4 against the P5. UCF fans FAULT!

Gus Malzahn has brought in dozens of portal
players and they have for the large part failed. One guy drafted in 2022 (he never played for GM) and zero players drafted this year.

18 transfer for this year…none have performed at a high level and the probability is very high that they never will. 18 spots that could have gone to high school prospects…to the future.

You are such a clown that you keep posting about Malzahn to Arkansas…you have the credibility of a used doormat.

A Gus Bus full of mid transfers (at best). https://247sports.com/college/central-florida/Season/2023-Football/Commits/

 

[ReturnOf]

Taking responsibility is being forthcoming, admitting that he is the play caller, that he did not make any adjustments and that he is failing in evaluating talent. The coaches he hires are people that have coached or played for him before aka weak yes men. The last 3 games vs P5…0/3. Since 2022 Malzahn is 1/4 against the P5. UCF fans FAULT!

Gus Malzahn has brought in dozens of portal
players and they have for the large part failed. One guy drafted in 2022 (he never played for GM) and zero players drafted this year.

18 transfer for this year…none have performed at a high level and the probability is very high that they never will. 18 spots that could have gone to high school prospects…to the future.

You are such a clown that you keep posting about Malzahn to Arkansas…you have the credibility of a used doormat.

A Gus Bus full of mid transfers (at best). https://247sports.com/college/central-florida/Season/2023-Football/Commits/

Totally agree on portal transfers. For all the fanfare, not many have panned out. Shit, on paper they were all All-Conference caliber players at their schools. O-line and def backs transfers we're the most disappointing so far

 

[LoboCane]

A note of interest that fans should focus on. UCF has been out-scored 52-21 in the second half of the last two games.

UCF opponents are making half time adjustments…On the other hand, UCF coaches (offense and defense) are failing to make proper adjustments.

But, let “AuburnLegacy1” keep telling everyone that UCF is losing games because of its fans.

 

[AuburnLegacy_1]

O-line and def backs transfers we're the most disappointing so far

Disagree on O Line. If there is one bright spot among the portal transfers, it is the Oline. EVERY transfer o-lineman has started at least two games or more this season; Marcellus Marshall has started every game. They are not the problem.

The safeties have also played well. DeJordan Mask is playing himself into a potential NFL draft pick as a slot corner. The way he shut down Kansas State's Ben Sinnott was impressive. Jireh Wilson is the leading tackler off the bench, ranking among the team's top 10 defenders in stops.

It is the other defensive players, specifically the linebackers who suck to high heavens. Isaiah Paul hasn't played since the Kent State opener, where he only made one tackle. Rian Davis, who was penciled in to be the starting middle linebacker, has four total tackles since the season opener.

The outside cornerbacks are the next biggest disappointment. Decorian Patterson was being tabbed as a first round NFL draft pick in the preseason. He has 185 career tackles (only 2 as a Knight). Clemson transfer Fred Davis has only played in two games, Kent State and Villanova. He was a regular rotational player at Clemson. These two aren't able to beat out the Heupel holdovers. I don't know what the problem is and don't want to speculate.

 

[KISA]

Totally agree on portal transfers. For all the fanfare, not many have panned out. Shit, on paper they were all All-Conference caliber players at their schools. O-line and def backs transfers we're the most disappointing so far

LB is the most disappointing out of the transfers because they are not even seeing the field.

 

[AuburnLegacy_1]

A note of interest that fans should focus on. UCF has been out-scored 52-21 in the second half of the last two games.

UCF opponents are making half time adjustments…On the other hand, UCF coaches (offense and defense) are failing to make proper adjustments.

It could be halftime adjustments. It really could.
Or perhaps those opponents have Power 5 rosters.

 

[AuburnLegacy_1]

Gus Malzahn has brought in dozens of portal
players and they have for the large part failed. One guy drafted in 2022 (he never played for GM) and zero players drafted this year.

18 transfer for this year…none have performed at a high level and the probability is very high that they never will. 18 spots that could have gone to high school prospects…to the future.

Yeah. UCF should play a bunch of 18-year-olds against 22-year-olds or older (with redshirts rules and COVID years factored in).

That's a brilliant idea genius.

 

[AuburnLegacy_1]

LB is the most disappointing out of the transfers because they are not even seeing the field.

I am going to make a correction to myself. The second most disappointing transfer position group are the wide receivers. They are terrible. Trent Whittemore has played more than any of them and he barely gets any reps. Grant Heard needs to be shown the door.

 

[hemightbejeremy]

Disagree on O Line. If there is one bright spot among the portal transfers, it is the Oline. EVERY transfer o-lineman has started at least two games or more this season; Marcellus Marshall has started every game. They are not the problem.

The safeties have also played well. DeJordan Mask is playing himself into a potential NFL draft pick as a slot corner. The way he shut down Kansas State's Ben Sinnott was impressive. Jireh Wilson is the leading tackler off the bench, ranking among the team's top 10 defenders in stops.

It is the other defensive players, specifically the linebackers who suck to high heavens. Isaiah Paul hasn't played since the Kent State opener, where he only made one tackle. Rian Davis, who was penciled in to be the starting middle linebacker, has four total tackles since the season opener.

The outside cornerbacks are the next biggest disappointment. Decorian Patterson was being tabbed as a first round NFL draft pick in the preseason. He has 185 career tackles (only 2 as a Knight). Clemson transfer Fred Davis has only played in two games, Kent State and Villanova. He was a regular rotational player at Clemson. These two aren't able to beat out the Heupel holdovers. I don't know what the problem is and don't want to speculate.

Is this a parody account? DeJordan Mask had a 51.0 PFF rating against K State and was move to a reserve role against Baylor.

 

[AuburnLegacy_1]

Is this a parody account? DeJordan Mask had a 51.0 PFF rating against K State and was move to a reserve role against Baylor.

He did recently fall in the rankings to 35th overall among all safeties, but he was in the Top 15 nationally prior to the Baylor game. He played hurt both weeks. Keep in mind he is being ranked against all free safeties, strong safeties, and slot corners so he still ranks fairly high at his specific position.

 

[hemightbejeremy]

He did recently fall in the rankings to 35th overall among all safeties, but he was in the Top 15 nationally prior to the Baylor game. He played hurt both weeks. Keep in mind he is being ranked against all free safeties, strong safeties, and slot corners so he still ranks fairly high at his specific position.

Rankings of what stat? He only played 17 snaps vs Baylor.

 

[AuburnLegacy_1]

Rankings of what stat? He only played 17 snaps vs Baylor.

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Look for yourself. He ranks 35th nationally for the season, not a one game performance.

 

[hemightbejeremy]

NCAA S Position Grades | PFF

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Look for yourself. He ranks 35th nationally for the season, not a one game performance.

His good games were against 3 terrible teams. As I stated against Kansas State he had a 51.0 PFF rating which is abysmal. And against Baylor he barely played.

 

[AuburnLegacy_1]

His good games were against 3 terrible teams. As I stated against Kansas State he had a 51.0 PFF rating which is abysmal. And against Baylor he barely played.

He was facing an ELITE future NFL tight end / H-back against K-State who was clearly more physical, but Mask held Ben Sinnott to a season low (throwing out the Troy game) for yardage (64 yards) and out of the end zone. He was hurt against K-State and Baylor. Kid has a chance to be a low round draft pick if healthy. He is BY FAR the best defensive transfer and possibly the best transfer overall of the latest cycle.

 

[beelit47]

You discredit your own posts with this Tweet. You said Gus didn't take responsibility for the loss, but he clearly says "It begins with me."

Stop responding to the 5-7 bald midget, he will die without attention

 

[hemightbejeremy]

He was facing an ELITE future NFL tight end / H-back against K-State who was clearly more physical, but Mask held Ben Sinnott to a season low (throwing out the Troy game) for yardage (64 yards) and out of the end zone. He was hurt against K-State and Baylor. Kid has a chance to be a low round draft pick if healthy. He is BY FAR the best defensive transfer and possibly the best transfer overall of the latest cycle.

Regardless of throwing out games or season lows, he played terribly against K State and Baylor according to PFF.