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White SC Police Officer arrested for murder Shot Black Man, caught on video

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Pretty sick...video is pretty graphic.

Incident happened on Saturday...video/arrest was just released.

Office was with the North Charleston, SC Police Dept.

Unedited Video:

http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20150407/PC16/150409468

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http://abcnews.go.com/US/video-cited-police-murder-charges-shows-officer-shooting/story?id=30137525

Cop also put his taser on the fallen man...tried to make it look like man stole his taser.


This post was edited on 4/7 7:17 PM by Knight_Light
 
Re: White SC Police Officer arrested for murder. Shot Black Man on tape

Tape? WTF??


And, it appears he may have been planting evidence too.



This post was edited on 4/7 7:15 PM by EweSeaEff
 
Re: White SC Police Officer arrested for murder. Shot Black Man on tape

They actually arrested him?

The times, they are a changing.
 
Question: Body Cameras (on cops, like Orlando Mayor Buddy Dyer wants to do).

I don't think this Cop had a body camera on him....if he did, do you think he would have shot 8 times at a man, who was pulled over for a broken taillight?

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Maybe Body Cameras just might stop at least one cop (maybe this one) from going full tilt and an innocent life could have been saved?

Likewise, body cameras might show that taken lethal action in other scenarios would have been warrated.
 
Originally posted by Knight_Light:
Question: Body Cameras (on cops, like Orlando Mayor Buddy Dyer wants to do).

I don't think this Cop had a body camera on him....if he did, do you think he would have shot 8 times at a man, who was pulled over for a broken taillight?

ec


Maybe Body Cameras just might stop at least one cop (maybe this one) from going full tilt and an innocent life could have been saved?

Likewise, body cameras might show that taken lethal action in other scenarios would have been warrated.
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But, but, but, why was he running away? Must've been guilty so he deserved to get murdered.*
 
The important thing here is that the cop was able to go home to his family that night.
 
Body cameras have also gotten cops arrested for murder. Which is crazy because you'd think they wouldn't be that stupid but apparently so. I hate the "what's wrong with spying if you have nothing to hide!" argument when it comes to citizens but this is most definitely a valid argument when it comes to people entrusted with extreme power over the rest of us.
 
Originally posted by MACHater02:

sk8night wants a grand jury.
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You obviously missed my posts where I detailed several scenarios where grand juries of officers aren't warranted. This would be one of them. But go ahead and demagogue all police officers based on what one asshole did. It makes you look smart.
 
Only criminals use their guns for nefarious reasons!
 
I'm patiently waiting for Fox News Bob to tell us more about the war on white males.
 
We have no idea of what happened before the video clip. In the beginning of the clip the guy takes the cops Taser, before he runs, but that is no reason to open fire on him. Clearly the cop was out of line in this shooting. He should be charged, though I think the proper charge is murder 2 and not murder 1.
 
Originally posted by goodknightfl:
We have no idea of what happened before the video clip. In the beginning of the clip the guy takes the cops Taser, before he runs, but that is no reason to open fire on him. Clearly the cop was out of line in this shooting. He should be charged, though I think the proper charge is murder 2 and not murder 1.
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While we're at it, let's just lower the charge to involuntary manslaughter. HIS GUN JUST HAPPENED TO GO OFF 8 TIMES AS HE WAS SHOOTING HIM IN THE BACK.
 
Originally posted by sk8knight:


Originally posted by MACHater02:

sk8night wants a grand jury.
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You obviously missed my posts where I detailed several scenarios where grand juries of officers aren't warranted. This would be one of them. But go ahead and demagogue all police officers based on what one asshole did. It makes you look smart.
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I'm not. This guy has a dangerous job and was clearly in fear for his life.
 
I agree. Only the government should have guns. This tragedy could have been avoided with stricter gun laws!!!
 
Originally posted by MACHater02:
If more people have guns, then inherently more idiots have guns. Apparently some see this as a positive society.
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Right, which is why as gun sales have exploded, concealed carry has become widely more popular, and African American agreement that carrying a firearm for protection has increased drastically to 54%, violent crime and homicides involving a firearm have dramatically decreased during the same period.

Detroit legalized conceal carry of a firearm 2 years ago, after years of laws which violated the 2nd Amendment, and yet FBI Crime Stats show that in 2014, Detroit had its' lowest number of homicides since 1967, robberies fell by 34% year to year, carjacking dropped 32% year to year, sexual assaults fell by 8%, non-fatal shootings dropped by 12%.

The only thing that increased was justifiable homicide, which increased 37%, and represents the people actually defending themselves from would be assailants and killers.
 
Originally posted by KnighttimeJoe:
Originally posted by goodknightfl:
We have no idea of what happened before the video clip. In the beginning of the clip the guy takes the cops Taser, before he runs, but that is no reason to open fire on him. Clearly the cop was out of line in this shooting. He should be charged, though I think the proper charge is murder 2 and not murder 1.
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While we're at it, let's just lower the charge to involuntary manslaughter. HIS GUN JUST HAPPENED TO GO OFF 8 TIMES AS HE WAS SHOOTING HIM IN THE BACK.
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Murder 1 requires premeditation, which needs to be proven.

That being said, I hope this officer has the whole book thrown at him. There was NO need, and it was excessive force.
 
Originally posted by MACHater02:
If more people have guns, then inherently more idiots have guns. Apparently some see this as a positive society.
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I'll gladly hand in my firearms when those with insidious, criminal intent, as well as those in authority all the way to the top do also.

Authority, as obviously displayed in this video, is not immune to insidious intent.

I don't really care about "positive" or "negative" as that is opinion of the beholder and not "fact".
 
Originally posted by Malthus Doctrine:

Originally posted by KnighttimeJoe:
Originally posted by goodknightfl:
We have no idea of what happened before the video clip. In the beginning of the clip the guy takes the cops Taser, before he runs, but that is no reason to open fire on him. Clearly the cop was out of line in this shooting. He should be charged, though I think the proper charge is murder 2 and not murder 1.
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While we're at it, let's just lower the charge to involuntary manslaughter. HIS GUN JUST HAPPENED TO GO OFF 8 TIMES AS HE WAS SHOOTING HIM IN THE BACK.
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Murder 1 requires premeditation, which needs to be proven.

That being said, I hope this officer has the whole book thrown at him. There was NO need, and it was excessive force.
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Well, dude, all components of all murder charges NEED to be proven

There is a ton of case law out there that indicates the precise time frame to determine what is premeditated and what isn't. and it is really isn't all that long (e.g., only a few moments).
 
Originally posted by KnighttimeJoe:
Originally posted by Malthus Doctrine:

Originally posted by KnighttimeJoe:
Originally posted by goodknightfl:
We have no idea of what happened before the video clip. In the beginning of the clip the guy takes the cops Taser, before he runs, but that is no reason to open fire on him. Clearly the cop was out of line in this shooting. He should be charged, though I think the proper charge is murder 2 and not murder 1.
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While we're at it, let's just lower the charge to involuntary manslaughter. HIS GUN JUST HAPPENED TO GO OFF 8 TIMES AS HE WAS SHOOTING HIM IN THE BACK.
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Murder 1 requires premeditation, which needs to be proven.

That being said, I hope this officer has the whole book thrown at him. There was NO need, and it was excessive force.
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Well, dude, all components of all murder charges NEED to be proven

There is a ton of case law out there that indicates the precise time frame to determine what is premeditated and what isn't. and it is really isn't all that long (e.g., only a few moments).
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Good point. Could also get a tampering charge for what appears to be adjustment of the scene...
 
mmmm, sickening.

We've got to break this cycle. More and more people are videotaping police interactions because they feel their rights are consistently violated, which leads to more anger in black communities, which leads to more anger among good police who feel they're being judged based on the actions of a few....

Something has to change to snap out of this before things get really bad. Make a public example out of this asshole that sends the message this is not aceptable to anybody.
 
You act like this is the first time a cop has been arrested for murder. It's already not acceptable to anyone.
 
Originally posted by Bob the Knight:
You act like this is the first time a cop has been arrested for murder. It's already not acceptable to anyone.
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But that message isn't being received in a lot of communities, partly because of crappy leaders in the black community, partly because people tend to think the images they see on TV are more widespread than they are, and partly because not enough people in the white community have taken a strong stand against clear racial bias.

Look at the message that came out of "white media" after the results of the Ferguson investigation were released. Talking heads on FOX and other places focused completely on the fact that "hands up don't shoot" was a fabrication, and made virtually no mention on the findings of institutionalized racism and civil rights violations that led to the anger boiling over in the first place.

This kind of shit moves racial tensions in the wrong direction.... of course when the media has incentive for inciting racial tension, what should we expect.



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Yeap, it's all white people's fault that some cops are racist. In turn that makes all white people racist because they are not out in force following cops around making sure they are treating everyone fairly.
 
Originally posted by Malthus Doctrine:

Originally posted by KnighttimeJoe:
Originally posted by goodknightfl:
We have no idea of what happened before the video clip. In the beginning of the clip the guy takes the cops Taser, before he runs, but that is no reason to open fire on him. Clearly the cop was out of line in this shooting. He should be charged, though I think the proper charge is murder 2 and not murder 1.
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While we're at it, let's just lower the charge to involuntary manslaughter. HIS GUN JUST HAPPENED TO GO OFF 8 TIMES AS HE WAS SHOOTING HIM IN THE BACK.
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Murder 1 requires premeditation, which needs to be proven.

That being said, I hope this officer has the whole book thrown at him. There was NO need, and it was excessive force.
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That was the point of my statement, proving premeditation will be very tough here. I personally am glad he has been fired, and charged. And in the end he should be convicted. Sorry Joe, but you can try to make what I said something it wasn't and just keep proving you are the small minded idiot you are. I was simply speaking of a legal issue. Of course involuntary manslaughter is not the charge. Overcharging can often lead to plea deals, but it can also muddy up a trial without need.
 
Originally posted by Malthus Doctrine:

Originally posted by KnighttimeJoe:
Originally posted by Malthus Doctrine:

Originally posted by KnighttimeJoe:
Originally posted by goodknightfl:
We have no idea of what happened before the video clip. In the beginning of the clip the guy takes the cops Taser, before he runs, but that is no reason to open fire on him. Clearly the cop was out of line in this shooting. He should be charged, though I think the proper charge is murder 2 and not murder 1.
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While we're at it, let's just lower the charge to involuntary manslaughter. HIS GUN JUST HAPPENED TO GO OFF 8 TIMES AS HE WAS SHOOTING HIM IN THE BACK.
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Murder 1 requires premeditation, which needs to be proven.

That being said, I hope this officer has the whole book thrown at him. There was NO need, and it was excessive force.
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Well, dude, all components of all murder charges NEED to be proven

There is a ton of case law out there that indicates the precise time frame to determine what is premeditated and what isn't. and it is really isn't all that long (e.g., only a few moments).
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Good point. Could also get a tampering charge for what appears to be adjustment of the scene...
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I only saw the clip one time on tv last night. If he did indeed plant the taser, he should be booked for obstruction.
 
Nothing to see here. This is just the one isolated incident in which the cop ****ed up. It just so happens we have clear as day ****ing evidence. Every other time what the cop said happened is definitely what happened. Move along.
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Originally posted by goodknightfl:
Originally posted by Malthus Doctrine:

Originally posted by KnighttimeJoe:
Originally posted by goodknightfl:
We have no idea of what happened before the video clip. In the beginning of the clip the guy takes the cops Taser, before he runs, but that is no reason to open fire on him. Clearly the cop was out of line in this shooting. He should be charged, though I think the proper charge is murder 2 and not murder 1.
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While we're at it, let's just lower the charge to involuntary manslaughter. HIS GUN JUST HAPPENED TO GO OFF 8 TIMES AS HE WAS SHOOTING HIM IN THE BACK.
Click to expand...
Murder 1 requires premeditation, which needs to be proven.

That being said, I hope this officer has the whole book thrown at him. There was NO need, and it was excessive force.
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That was the point of my statement, proving premeditation will be very tough here. I personally am glad he has been fired, and charged. And in the end he should be convicted. Sorry Joe, but you can try to make what I said something it wasn't and just keep proving you are the small minded idiot you are. I was simply speaking of a legal issue. Of course involuntary manslaughter is not the charge. Overcharging can often lead to plea deals, but it can also muddy up a trial without need.
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Old man, seriously, stfu. You are an absolute embarrassment to mankind. 100% of the stuff you post is complete and total bullshit.
 
Originally posted by Malthus Doctrine:

Originally posted by KnighttimeJoe:
Originally posted by goodknightfl:
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Murder 1 requires premeditation, which needs to be proven.

That being said, I hope this officer has the whole book thrown at him. There was NO need, and it was excessive force.
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It depends on the jurisdiction. Some states require almost nothing for premeditation, no matter what passes the common sense test. Not sure about S. Carolina specifically. I also agree that an example needs to be made here but again, we don't know he whole story. What we know is pretty damning but we still should reserve final judgment until both sides have been weighed.

incidentally, this is one case where the video wasn't actually necessary. The bullet wounds to the back would've been damning enough to bring this guy to trial.
 
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