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Would UCF get more respect by changing its name?

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Orlando Sentinel either has some UF people there writing content or they have nothing to talk about. Article is silly, UCF is here stay, it's way too late to change the name anyway...

The author suggests that academically ranked schools and high ranked football programs are partially there because their name is non directional....

This is quite absurd because non directional schools were established first, ie UF, in the early 19 and 1800s.. Secondly, schools like Harvard, Clemson, etc were created by corporations and wealthy men when America was still being explored and some even before we had the Constitution... So the reasons these schools are successful has nothing to do with their name but is due to their longevity and tradition.

Schools that add direction to their names came later, in the 1900s, ie UCF, USF, etc. And they probably choose to add a direction to their name because they could use the word "Florida" or because they were founded by the State University System... Florida is a lot bigger, and includes a lot more residents, than say Orlando University.
 
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Orlando Sentinel either has some UF people there writing content or they have nothing to talk about. Article is silly, UCF is here stay, it's way too late to change the name anyway...

The author suggests that academically ranked schools and high ranked football programs are partially there because their name is non directional....

This is quite absurd because non directional schools were established first, ie UF, in the early 19 and 1800s.. Secondly, schools like Harvard, Clemson, etc were created by corporations and wealthy men when America was still being explored and some even before we had the Constitution... So the reasons these schools are successful has nothing to do with their name but is due to their longevity and tradition.

Schools that add direction to their names came later, in the 1900s, ie UCF, USF, etc. And they probably choose to add a direction to their name because they could use the word "Florida" or because they were founded by the State University System... Florida is a lot bigger, and includes a lot more residents, than say Orlando University.

Article was written by a UF Grad who use to be a Sports Writer at the Sentinel. Now he writes about Dog/Flower Shows and County Fairs.
 
Many people are talking. There is definitely a buzz out there. Enjoy @SCKnight #FBeffect

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/opi...8sliqkwndbujCl-IcJdAXk8tWZubZ25mrmAJ4cBv2OLxs

Someone continuing to perpetuate superiority over P-5 programs. What a surprise [eyeroll] But unfortunately the same argument without any real reference to branding and how it is done and how long it actually takes to establish. Lots of non-directional schools seem to have the same struggles. I would say even more troubles than we at establishing a brand. Marshall, Rice, Temple, Tulane, Houston, Tulsa, Charlotte, Louisiana Tech, UMass, Uconn, New Mexico State, Miami (OH)Kent State, Buffalo, Akron, Ball State, Coastal Carolina, Toledo, Boise State, Utah state, Colorado State, New Mexico, Hawaii, Nevada, San Jose, Appalachian State, Louisiana, Texas State, Arkansas state.

All have non-directional names. Many have long football histories, much longer than UCF. Yet currently the UCF brand is stronger than any of them. Why can't we all just admit that football success is a combination of time, size and most importantly conference affiliation. Name has little to do with it. In fact I would love to slap whoever approved the change to "golden Knights" even if it was GOL. What a knightmare it has been getting out from that debacle. Right now UCF is on the lips of the American public. Changing it to University of Orlando or something like that (Florida Tech is taken) makes me think of online school. As long as the twitter mafia and our administration continues to push UCF over Central Florida, we should be good......Geez and it is not even spring yet...
 
Disney U or FL. Landlocked U or ...?

I forgot one "Space Cake U".

Changing a name doesn't change the product.
Unfortunately this is a big waste of money. I'll take the money for a charity
I work for, a much better expenditure.

The character is what counts and what has built UCF.
Just continue to aim to go "1-0" every week. It's like alumns who kept pounding that rock
to earn their degree.
 
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..Name has little to do with it. In fact I would love to slap whoever approved the change to "golden Knights" even if it was GOL. What a knightmare it has been getting out from that debacle. Right now UCF is on the lips of the American public. Changing it to University of Orlando or something like that (Florida Tech is taken) makes me think of online school. As long as the twitter mafia and our administration continues to push UCF over Central Florida, we should be good......Geez and it is not even spring yet...

Solid post till the above...as most Knight fans know (or could find out in 1 second) that it was former Alabama QB and former College HC at Vandy, Texas Tech, Ole Miss & Duke who was then UCF's AD, Steve Sloan, who wanted to become more politically correct...and changed the UCF Knights (Football Team name was the "Fighting Knights"), to Golden Knights WAY back in 1993.

It was under O'Leary that UCF changed back to UCF Knights and came out witch the new branding campaign (including new UCF Stacked Logo) in 2007.
 
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Solid post till the above...as most Knight fans know (or could find out in 1 second) that it was former Alabama QB and former College HC at Vandy, Texas Tech, Ole Miss & Duke who was then UCF's AD, Steve Sloan, who wanted to become more politically correct...and changed the UCF Knights (Football Team name was the "Fighting Knights"), to Golden Knights WAY back in 1993.

It was under O'Leary that UCF changed back to UCF Knights and came out witch the new branding campaign (including new UCF Stacked Logo) in 2007.
I did not say he changed it. I just said I wanted to slap that person, even if it was him.
 
Solid post till the above...as most Knight fans know (or could find out in 1 second) that it was former Alabama QB and former College HC at Vandy, Texas Tech, Ole Miss & Duke who was then UCF's AD, Steve Sloan, who wanted to become more politically correct...and changed the UCF Knights (Football Team name was the "Fighting Knights"), to Golden Knights WAY back in 1993.

It was under O'Leary that UCF changed back to UCF Knights and came out witch the new branding campaign (including new UCF Stacked Logo) in 2007.
When I was at school it was just the Knights. Leather helmets and all....
 
Pretty sure one of the main reasons we've been so vocally anti-everything-cartel is because it would help us break out of the directional school prism. Love or Hate UCF they are talking about us.

Chances are 10/10 people you ask in 2020 know the difference between UCF and the rest of the Florida schools as opposed to back in 2010
 
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Since I never really followed this bias thing, I've always thought this was the dumbest thing ever. I had no idea that a name, which I think heard costs $1 Million to change, was more important than the level of actual education. Who knew.

But, am glad to have the seasonal "change our name" post-season post back!

How about this, if it actually costs a million, then why don't those concerned actually start the funding page and get it done, instead of being so worried about it? Only, just don't name it the dumbest choice ever- University of Florida- Orlando. If you really want to be laughed at, and then promptly ignored, pick that.
 
Since I never really followed this bias thing, I've always thought this was the dumbest thing ever. I had no idea that a name, which I think heard costs $1 Million to change, was more important than the level of actual education. Who knew.

But, am glad to have the seasonal "change our name" post-season post back!

How about this, if it actually costs a million, then why don't those concerned actually start the funding page and get it done, instead of being so worried about it? Only, just don't name it the dumbest choice ever- University of Florida- Orlando. If you really want to be laughed at, and then promptly ignored, pick that.
$1mill seems low tbh.

I’m happy with UCF and it would be so weird if it changed at this point. Maybe I’ll feel differently in the 2021 offseason :)
 
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Never thought they should've changed the name in the first place, Too late to change the university name, but the team name and mascot could be easily changed to the more fearsome Citronauts. Roll On!!!
 
Never thought they should've changed the name in the first place, Too late to change the university name, but the team name and mascot could be easily changed to the more fearsome Citronauts. Roll On!!!
Because you put Citronaut and roll next to each other. It made me think Citronauts sound like a bread roll appetizer, kind of like the rolls served by Hops or Houlihans, but with some orange zest
 
Because you put Citronaut and roll next to each other. It made me think Citronauts sound like a bread roll appetizer, kind of like the rolls served by Hops or Houlihans, but with some orange zest

I’d eat that...
 
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Since I never really followed this bias thing, I've always thought this was the dumbest thing ever. I had no idea that a name, which I think heard costs $1 Million to change, was more important than the level of actual education. Who knew.

But, am glad to have the seasonal "change our name" post-season post back!

How about this, if it actually costs a million, then why don't those concerned actually start the funding page and get it done, instead of being so worried about it? Only, just don't name it the dumbest choice ever- University of Florida- Orlando. If you really want to be laughed at, and then promptly ignored, pick that.
University of South Central Florida?
 
Many people are talking. There is definitely a buzz out there. Enjoy @SCKnight #FBeffect

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UF missed the boat years ago. Back in the 1950, the Big 10 schools had a vision in establishing regional campuses. In doing this, they were able to expand their brand name and developed a a very loyal fan base as the students felt connected to the main campus simply based on name. For example the University of Michigan expanded to both Dearborn and Flint as there was a need to educate folks living in more metropolitan areas. Ann Arbor is about an hr drive from the Detroit burbs and 2 hrs from Flint. UM now also has a down-town Detroit campus to capture the working professionals. Additionally, the University of Wisconsin has over 180K students under the UW public university system. Granted, not all of the regional campuses field a football team, but their degree does show the University of Wisconsin, and all are avid Badger fans. There are no other colleges in the state of Wisconsin that competes against the University of Wisconsin...they own the state. Granted UF wasn't much of a campus back in the prior to the 1950-70's, (keep in mind AC window units we're available for sale until the early 1970 so I'm not surprised) their leadership did not have the vision to assume a position as being a flag-ship university as what UM and UW did back in the day. Tampa was a growing market back then and Jax has always been a military town with a large population. UF could have easily established a regional campus in both locations and locked down their presence and strengthened their brand-name if their administrators actually thought about their future and shared a same vision.
 
I guess the name of a city isn’t directional like central isn’t a direction. So I guess the University of California @ Los Angeles isn’t technically a directional school. University of Southern California is definitely directional and they are doing fine. If our sports programs can sustain what we have done recently and continue the upward trajectory there is absolutely no need for a name change.
 
UF missed the boat years ago. Back in the 1950, the Big 10 schools had a vision in establishing regional campuses. In doing this, they were able to expand their brand name and developed a a very loyal fan base as the students felt connected to the main campus simply based on name. For example the University of Michigan expanded to both Dearborn and Flint as there was a need to educate folks living in more metropolitan areas. Ann Arbor is about an hr drive from the Detroit burbs and 2 hrs from Flint. UM now also has a down-town Detroit campus to capture the working professionals. Additionally, the University of Wisconsin has over 180K students under the UW public university system. Granted, not all of the regional campuses field a football team, but their degree does show the University of Wisconsin, and all are avid Badger fans. There are no other colleges in the state of Wisconsin that competes against the University of Wisconsin...they own the state. Granted UF wasn't much of a campus back in the prior to the 1950-70's, (keep in mind AC window units we're available for sale until the early 1970 so I'm not surprised) their leadership did not have the vision to assume a position as being a flag-ship university as what UM and UW did back in the day. Tampa was a growing market back then and Jax has always been a military town with a large population. UF could have easily established a regional campus in both locations and locked down their presence and strengthened their brand-name if their administrators actually thought about their future and shared a same vision.

I think UCF missed the boat by getting way too big and not focusing on quality. UF was growing enormously but then capped enrollment, as a result admissions got tougher, quality of applicants increased, and they greatly enhanced the academic stature. UCF needs to scale back and get their academics in order more than worrying about a power 5 conference. If UCF had stronger academics it might help with getting invited to a better conference.
 
Bizzle topic but I have thought what would happen with the name if Florida ever split into 2 States

I’d prefer to just give the Panhandle to Alabama and Georgia & have Orlando be the new Capital
You are actually not alone. As for name change, back in the early 1990s there was serious talk about changing the name from UCF to Orlando University or University of Orlando. Some thought it was a great idea powers that be obviously thought otherwise.
 
You are actually not alone. As for name change, back in the early 1990s there was serious talk about changing the name from UCF to Orlando University or University of Orlando. Some thought it was a great idea powers that be obviously thought otherwise.
Not sure how "serious" it may have been. I don't think the school ever seriously considered anything
 
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It never fails...every fcuking year this gets posted, just as the season concludes. Leave it UCF PERIOD!!!
 
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I think UCF missed the boat by getting way too big and not focusing on quality. UF was growing enormously but then capped enrollment, as a result admissions got tougher, quality of applicants increased, and they greatly enhanced the academic stature. UCF needs to scale back and get their academics in order more than worrying about a power 5 conference. If UCF had stronger academics it might help with getting invited to a better conference.
Not really...Most know existing P5 inclusion is based on money, and time-in-grade, not academics (Louisville, Nebraska, Kansas, Miss State just to name a few). Since all major land-grant schools are already tagged, future expansion will be based on media markets and recent athletic performance. All P5s have been established for a very long time (i.e. land-granted schools). The University of Miami is probably the youngest P5 school, established in the 1930s. I do agree w/you regarding UCF admissions, but their motto supports opportunity and giving students a fair shake in being successful in life with a college education. I would suspect at some point, they'll start throttling back enrollment to the main-campus. Heck, do what the rest of the top 25 schools do, reject in-state students and accept out-of-state chasing dollars and say you're most selective. UCF hasn't really missed the boat, they're still sailing toward better seas.
 
Not sure how "serious" it may have been. I don't think the school ever seriously considered anything
Not sure how "serious" it may have been. I don't think the school ever seriously considered anything
That is certainly not the way I understood it in the many conversations I had with central administration. But I could be wrong.
 
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