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Would you pay $50 to see Batman v Superman (other new releases) today at your home?

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Napstar/fb dude Sean Parker wants to offer a service where one can watch movies in their own homes on the same day as any and all movies are released in the theater.

His anti-piracy system would include one to purchase a $150 box plus pay $50 for every new release (have 48 hours to watch), and the $50 would be split between studios, movie theaters and distributors.

The deal would also include 2 free tix to go see the same movie in any theater so that theaters might be able to enjoy high profit concessions during the few weeks after one saw the movie at home.

Would you invest $150 into a system where you could purchase a new release at home for $50 (maybe have movie parties with 3-5 people) instead of going to a crowded/noisy movie theater on opening weekend?

http://fortune.com/2016/03/10/napster-sean-parker-movie/
 
0% chance.

I mean I appreciate the idea of bringing new releases home where many of us have sweet TV/audio setups. But I dont even care about seeing new movies until they hit Redbox.

I'm sure theres a market for this but at that price its a niche.
 
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UCF-icenhl-06 said:
0% chance.

I mean I appreciate the idea of bringing new releases home where many of us have sweet TV/audio setups. But I dont even care about seeing new movies until they hit Redbox.

I'm sure theres a market for this but at that price its a niche.
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Yup. I don't even do Redbox. I wait for Netflix or Pay-per-View.
 
Knight_Light said:
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Napstar/fb dude Sean Parker wants to offer a service where one can watch movies in their own homes on the same day as any and all movies are released in the theater.

His anti-piracy system would include one to purchase a $150 box plus pay $50 for every new release (have 48 hours to watch), and the $50 would be split between studios, movie theaters and distributors.

The deal would also include 2 free tix to go see the same movie in any theater so that theaters might be able to enjoy high profit concessions during the few weeks after one saw the movie at home.

Would you invest $150 into a system where you could purchase a new release at home for $50 (maybe have movie parties with 3-5 people) instead of going to a crowded/noisy movie theater on opening weekend?

http://fortune.com/2016/03/10/napster-sean-parker-movie/
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I would definitely pay it, but I have a feeling I'd be flushing $150 down the drain on the box as I think it would be short lived.

They could watermark the movies and trace bootlegs back, but the bootleggers would most likely be minors. So all first run movies would hit torrent and other pirate distributions. Studios would lose money extremely fast. They'd all quickly pull out of this and you'd have a $150 box to put in your trash.
 
LOL no

I can currently wait a few months and rent movies for $4 on Brighthouse on Demand.

For 3 movies, that's $150 + $150 for $300 total. If I just wait a few months, it'll cost me $12.
 
UCFKnight85 said:
LOL no

I can currently wait a few months and rent movies for $4 on Brighthouse on Demand.

For 3 movies, that's $150 + $150 for $300 total. If I just wait a few months, it'll cost me $12.
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When I bring my kids to the movies, it's around $100 when it's all said and done. Compared to that, it's not a bad deal.
 
SublimeKnight said:
When I bring my kids to the movies, it's around $100 when it's all said and done. Compared to that, it's not a bad deal.
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That and with some 70" sets becoming more of the new norm...being able to watch new releases at the time of your own choice in your own home while at the same time as their theatrical release...(without the worry of teenagers and other idiots turning on their giant cellphones in a dark theater in front of you), Parker is obviously hoping there is a niche audience...as it seems there is a good percentage of folks that don't like the large movie theater and very public experience. ("Hey, concession stand just gave my kid a 48 oz MEDIUM fountain drink and I want to hit pause because my kid now has to use the restroom and we both don't miss any of the movie....").

Piracy will be a concern...but with Parker's technological background...he might be able to find a way to avoid unauthorized distribution.
 
Knight_Light said:
Piracy will be a concern...but with Parker's technological background...he might be able to find a way to avoid unauthorized distribution.
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There is no way around the piracy concern. At the end of the day, you're displaying the content so someone can view it, which means they can record it. The best they could do is stop perfect digital copies, but a calibrated SLR recording is almost as good.
 
cnsaguy said:
Holy $hit, how many kids do you have?
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I worked at a movie theater in High School and families of 4-5 would routinely buy $40-50+ just in concessions. Then with the cost of tickets, you're easily at $80+. And prices have gone up a good amount since then.
 
SublimeKnight said:
There is no way around the piracy concern. At the end of the day, you're displaying the content so someone can view it, which means they can record it. The best they could do is stop perfect digital copies, but a calibrated SLR recording is almost as good.
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cnsaguy said:
Holy $hit, how many kids do you have?
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Thought I heard that Sublime Knight was a former NFL or NBA player...so it could be quite a few.*

Or...it could be a couple of kids...who bring a friend or two to a movie...and each kid gobbles up $10-$15 in drinks/candy/concessions...it doesn't take much to get up to $100 for a group of people.

Some day...there will be quick day loan services available at movie theater box offices.
 
KL and HAL are correct. Tickets are over $10 now. Add popcorn/candy/drinks and $100 goes quickly. If we do one of those movie theaters that serves meals, it's around $100 just in food/drinks/tip.
 
SublimeKnight said:
KL and HAL are correct. Tickets are over $10 now. Add popcorn/candy/drinks and $100 goes quickly. If we do one of those movie theaters that serves meals, it's around $100 just in food/drinks/tip.
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When we used to go to the movies, the wife carries a big purse and we bring in our own concessions. I just couldn't bring myself to pay the prices they charged.
 
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Broadcasting is illegal.

I'm just watching something on the internet... not illegal.
 
I'm spoiled I guess. West Orange 5, independent theater, I can take a family of 4 plus popcorn, soda and a 32oz Crooked Can beer for $40-$45.
 
fabknight said:
Not the same HAL. I paid for the movie I watched. I wasn't eating their food or drinking their soda and therefore wasn't stealing. I was simply violating one of their dumb rules.
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Movie theaters make almost no money off of the sales of tickets. Basically the entirety of their budget is from the sales of concessions which is why they have the dumb rule. You wouldn't have the ability to see the movie at all if everyone was ignoring the rule and sneaking in their own snacks and drinks.

It's akin to going into a starbucks to watch netflix on their free wifi, not getting anything from them, and saying it's fine because you pay for netflix.
 
Im not sure if Orlando has one but in Atlanta we have a place called Picture Show. Full movie theater but just runs movies that just recently were dropping out of the main theathers. so today for example its 13 Hours, Creed, Daddy's Home, Zoolander 2, and a couple others.

Tickets are $2 each. $1 on Tuesdays. Wife and I saw Creed there recently and brought in our own snacks. $4 on the big screen for a movie night out.
 
HAL 9100 said:
Movie theaters make almost no money off of the sales of tickets. Basically the entirety of their budget is from the sales of concessions which is why they have the dumb rule. You wouldn't have the ability to see the movie at all if everyone was ignoring the rule and sneaking in their own snacks and drinks.

It's akin to going into a starbucks to watch netflix on their free wifi, not getting anything from them, and saying it's fine because you pay for netflix.
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Nope. They should just charge more for the movie ticket then. Sounds like they have a faulty business model to me. Maybe one price for concessions users and one for non-concessions users.
 
HAL 9100 said:
Movie theaters make almost no money off of the sales of tickets. Basically the entirety of their budget is from the sales of concessions which is why they have the dumb rule. You wouldn't have the ability to see the movie at all if everyone was ignoring the rule and sneaking in their own snacks and drinks.

It's akin to going into a starbucks to watch netflix on their free wifi, not getting anything from them, and saying it's fine because you pay for netflix.
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I was curious about this, so I looked up Regal's 10K filing with the SEC. In round numbers they pulled in $2B at the ticket counter. They paid $1B in rental fees. They paid $500M in rent and had $800M in "other expenses". They had $100M in concession expenses and collected $900M at the concession stand.

They definitely make most of their money off of concessions and since that's how all theaters seem to do it, it's probably the most profitable approach. Overall they lost about $30M
 
SublimeKnight said:
KL and HAL are correct. Tickets are over $10 now. Add popcorn/candy/drinks and $100 goes quickly. If we do one of those movie theaters that serves meals, it's around $100 just in food/drinks/tip.
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And/or if a couple has a young one (say under 4 years), they generally need to hire a babysitter for that one ($30 or more if they go out to eat before/after)...and, if the kids/couple want to watch anything in 3D (or worse, IMAX 3D), tix can reach $18-$19 (or thats the going rate for some regular theaters in NY/LA/San Fran).

$50 to stay at home?? That will be a cost saving for some...and a huge benefit to many others (where $50 is like spending a quarter...they just don't want to deal with the hassle of fighting traffic, parking (especially if in a city) or deal with taxis/uber, noisy strangers, rip off concessions...all just to see a movie.

"Pause button" alone might be worth $20 to some.
 
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SublimeKnight said:
I was curious about this, so I looked up Regal's 10K filing with the SEC. In round numbers they pulled in $2B at the ticket counter. They paid $1B in rental fees. They paid $500M in rent and had $800M in "other expenses". They had $100M in concession expenses and collected $900M at the concession stand.

They definitely make most of their money off of concessions and since that's how all theaters seem to do it, it's probably the most profitable approach. Overall they lost about $30M
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They charge like $5 for a coke there. I would HOPE they're making money at that point.

I haven't been to a theater in years and may never go back. Not when I can just wait and get movies to run on my 70 inch TV, in my living room, with my own drinks and food, without people talking around me, with the ability to pause any time I want to piss.
 
UCFKnight85 said:
They charge like $5 for a coke there. I would HOPE they're making money at that point.

I haven't been to a theater in years and may never go back. Not when I can just wait and get movies to run on my 70 inch TV, in my living room, with my own drinks and food, without people talking around me, with the ability to pause any time I want to piss.
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I think a medium coke at Regal is $5.50 or $5.75
 
SublimeKnight said:
KL and HAL are correct. Tickets are over $10 now. Add popcorn/candy/drinks and $100 goes quickly. If we do one of those movie theaters that serves meals, it's around $100 just in food/drinks/tip.
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10:30 a.m. slot = $7, no popcorn (you eat before the movie starts anyway), take them to lunch after the movie. Total cost: $20 person
 
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They charge like $5 for a coke there. I would HOPE they're making money at that point.

I haven't been to a theater in years and may never go back. Not when I can just wait and get movies to run on my 70 inch TV, in my living room, with my own drinks and food, without people talking around me, with the ability to pause any time I want to piss.
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You must live alone. Wife sees you watching movie and remembers something "she has to tell you" or has shit for you to do. Kids won't shut up just because they are your kids
 
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