Wrong emphasis for stadium expansion?
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The lazy river needs to be a moat and we need to build A castle facade
completely different culture
UCF or anywhere in Florida will never need capacity that big
102K what? flies? TV viewers? I still dont believe the TAM story. It is a field way north of Houston. Some oil execs like to watch them?
5+ years ago Manzel played QB there. Way less history than say Nebraska. That same Nebraska that thanks Rutgers for signing the checks it cashes.
Back to the topic the in stadium game experience is very diluted only 1 replay for critical decisions, etc. 60K is a high number. Only way to grow is premium features. See NFL Jacksonville has suites with pools, etc. 100+k fans in the stands is not reasonable for most schools and truly the fans experience is diminished at this quantity.
102k in-person attendees to home games.
There is a huge culture at that school. They get like 30k currently enrolled students, to buy season tickets. These students are paying like $50/ ticket too.
I believe with stadium expansion fan safety should be priority, including their long-term safety, which includes the sun...
Once that is handled, then focus on the other aesthetics. I know they can fit in something for shade that's cost-effective, employ the same logic that was used to build the stadium in the first place.
Once that is handled, then focus on the other aesthetics. I know they can fit in something for shade that's cost-effective, employ the same logic that was used to build the stadium in the first place.
I wonder if there is ever a point where the stadium gets rebuilt into a concrete structure, or what the steel/aluminum structure lifetime is. Stadiums cost too much to do it anytime soon, but in the meantime expanding isn't needed until we are consistently selling out and squeezing into the stadium. Just improve the experience i.e. way more efficient concession stands, wifi/service etc.
You don't want rebarred concrete in Florida in a stadium. Ever. In a hurricane region, you need flexibility.
Look under Hard rock stadium (I did, I was curious)...all steel. Same with other large stadiums in the Southeast.
MAYBE fancy formed concrete steps in areas like Doak Campbell and Ben Hill Griffin? But you want that main structure made of flexible steel, absolutely.
See no further than the condo collapse in Miami in regards to how quickly concrete becomes brittle with heat/humidity. Add vibration to it? No way.
Steel outlast rebarred concrete 2-1. Just watch "Life after People" on Discovery.
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Prob b/c pro sports make the tax payers foot the bill and they redo their stadium every 20-30 years.
The NFL stadiums in Florida have steel-beam construction while employing concrete aesthetics superficially. You can find examples pretty easily. It's engineering 101. I believe TIAA is largely concrete in exterior areas, steel where there is more vibration. Like Doak Campbell in Tallahassee. EDIT: Hard Rock, I believe is the only one that is more than 80% concrete.
Edit Re-edit edit for edit's sake: Ok, so all NFL stadiums are largely concrete except for some specific areas. So I was wrong-right. The maintenance though is rediculous...mostly due to vibration. I pay attention to college more anyway.
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They typically have the blue-prints on hand to form and replace sections quickly. Something most universities can't do frequently.
I think we need to get the stadium to 50,000 to 55,000 over the next decade. I think that is a great number for a Big 12 team. In addition, we need shade and addition of luxury boxes to increase revenue. If we can add those with a few minor upgrades on appearance we will have a great stadium that will take UCF into its next phase.
I think shade should be the #1 priority
Thanks for the examples. Definitely looks challenging and still a bunch of sun exposure with some of those examples….but, definitely better than nothing.
Believe it or not, that was actually proposed back in the 80's, although it was done in jest. I have been trying to find it for ages, but in the late 80's, the Orlando Sentinel published an artists concept for an on-campus stadium that was built to look like a castle from outside.
Orlando Sentinel archives may have it. Pay for 1 month and search for it.
Oh, I have. Many, many times - and I have still struck out. It was part of a "Sunday Special" in the sports page about the future of UCF. I want to say 1987, but I could be wrong.
Example of shade going in on a Disney ride. https://wdwnt.com/2022/09/pieces-added-to-tron-lightcycle-run-entrance/
