ATTENTION: Regarding Behavior in the Water Cooler
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So I think because of the impersonal nature of forum posting over the internet a lot of sarcasm is interpreted as being serious. In this thread alone I can see a lot of sarcasm but some members may not see it that way and somehow someway take it personally and see it as being a personal attack. Would you guys in this forum be open to the idea of adopting a sarcasm tag in a post that is obviously sarcasm with a tag like /s for the sake of clarity?
For example: That idea was so stupid banned user, we should take away banned user's posting privilege for a week! /s
For example: That idea was so stupid banned user, we should take away banned user's posting privilege for a week! /s
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I just want to make sure that my self-reporting has been noted. I’m a danger to myself as well as the other shit stains around here.
Asterisk, and stuff.
Asterisk, and stuff.
All of my reported threads were denied. Who are you to determine what is offensive to me???
I reported your thread and used damn near the same wording in the report!! Lmao
I understand being a moderator is a thankless job.
I've been one, many times and I don't like being one.
It's moderators posting crap like this that make we want to leave boards.
If you're a moderator, you cannot be posting phrasings like this.
Seriously ... you throw your drinks at others at times too.
Again, cannot believe a moderator posted this.
This is not an objective statement.
You don't pre-create judgement when you're moderating.
I don't moderate in most forums because it requires me to remove my thoughts.
I have to be completely impartial and not even give a hint of my own views.
But that's me, I understand subjectivity has become the way of the world order now.
Reported for being a whiny little snowflake. Please delete your account.
Not yet. I have to see what happens.
So far, there's been no reason to leave the board (although I have taken breaks from time-to-time).
Please delete your heartbeat. Hashtag worse than Ninja. Hashtag am I supposed to hashtag some kind of sarcasm emoji here? Hashtag what is the point of emojis? Hashtag Wayne is still a shit tier racist person that nobody loves.
Alright, which one of you reported me? Was it you wayne? I swear if it was you we will have the words. Like serious words. Words that only liberatarians understand. And it will be just you me and BS talking about the words because it will just be a thread where we talk about being libertarian. I hope that scares you because it scares the hell out of me.
I'm sorry that was as offensive to you as it was I probably should've used a sarcasm tag for that line. However in fairness if I were to start closing down some the divisive political threads in the WC which group would start crying the loudest? It's plain to see how many political threads there are here and reading through them it's fair to say the thread posters have a leaning in one direction. If we are going for fair moderation then in a perfect situation there would be an even number of threads representing both sides with fair engagement from the whole political spectrum. So the question is should more political threads be closed if too much representation comes from one side or should we call for more threads to represent the other side?
Likewise -- e.g., I could and should have prefaced it with "I feel." I was both trolling, but also countering with a similar attitude. That said, and here it comes (this is what bothers me) ...
And why is that? And why do Libertarians like myself seem to be defending Republicans so much this decade?
Because they are being blocked from mainstream media, and misrepresented greatly in it.
Now most of the US media is fully entitled to do that, they are private industry, and must remain such.
I think it's grossly irresponsible for them to do so, but that's their decision.
In the same regard ...
But -- I feel -- it's not you to decide ... and more than the US FCC should force the US media to be impartial.
Do you see that?
This alleged 'fairness doctrine' and 'ministry of truth' is what leads to censorship in the first place.
Especially when we Libertarians interject, "Well, that's not racist, maybe a tad insensitive, but there is a greater point we have to agree to here ..."
Just like in the US media ... but that doesn't happen.
This isn't a debate team and it doesn't have rules.
I strongly feel the moderation focus has to be objective, not subjective, and that means stopping "select actions," not trying to "balance arguments."
If you want to make the Cooler a "debate team" with "rules" in the setup, then I'm not going to stick around.
I'll still pay for my Dungeon Membership, because I support Brandon and like the scoops.
But I will not be around much.
Never. Never in the US media. Never here. It is what it is. That's my view. Anything else will quickly become subjective.
But I'm a Libertarian, and I think differently.
I already have so many forums and circles where Progressive viewpoints dominate.
This board tends to be a mix of ...
- Middle age Gen-X'ers like myself in our prime income earning years, usually the median 'donation' type, but went through the Reagan Republican and Progressive Clinton years
- A staple the newer Millennials that are just now driving into their 30s, and losing some of their early, Progressive leanings, shedding some of their values instilled by public education
- The brand new Gen-Z'ers, post-Great Recession, who are almost a refresh of the Greatest Generation of the Depression, and question everyone, especially both the US media and politicians
The middle are going to be Socially Liberal, and a mix in the Fiscal aspects, slowly overtaking us Gen-X'ers, but also not always blindly following Progressives either
The latter are still small, and are far less the initial Progressives that the Millennials were, but definitely, and heavily, socially liberal for the most part, and probably the most Libertarian "I have to watch out for myself" from the get-go
It's going to be quite the ride, if you're willing to watch, and not inhibit by balancing it as "Okay, Party A got X posts, and Party B got Y posts." You're already classifying people into "2 teams" like some sort of "debate team" setup.
@UCFBS Sorry let me preface this with the libernazi thing was a play on liberal and nazi so I wasn't trying to pick on libertarians.
To add to that I am a moderator here and personally, just my opinion, the role I play here in the WC is to help encourage civil engagement between posters and make sure if content is out of line then give appropriate notice to whoever did it or more if necessary. I'm not a moderator as in a moderator for a political debate where complete impartiality is appropriate.
If that were the case then I completely agree with your opinion on it, but that situation is entirely different. I'm not here to facilitate a debate between politicians. I'm here to help facilitate civil engagement between posters and in actuality I really just want to keep cyber bullying from hurting people irl.
To add to that I am a moderator here and personally, just my opinion, the role I play here in the WC is to help encourage civil engagement between posters and make sure if content is out of line then give appropriate notice to whoever did it or more if necessary. I'm not a moderator as in a moderator for a political debate where complete impartiality is appropriate.
If that were the case then I completely agree with your opinion on it, but that situation is entirely different. I'm not here to facilitate a debate between politicians. I'm here to help facilitate civil engagement between posters and in actuality I really just want to keep cyber bullying from hurting people irl.
Yes, that's not what bothered me.
I feel you're crossing some lines. I said I feel. I don't threaten to leave, I just state what I would and would not like, and what would reduce my participation. That's just what I want, selfishly, for myself.
Which is what one needs to focus on. But don't confuse that with ensuring enough topics are 'in balance.' The problem always is ... 'balance' is subjective.
I totally get the bone you have to pick with me and like you said moderating is a thankless job, there's a million ways to do it wrong and nobody cares if you do it right and that's okay. I 100% don't mind if people want to paint me a villain but I don't really think balance is subjective. I personally think balance is quantifiable but that's just me, and to add to that I want to point out that I have not closed any threads in the WC that haven't run their course or become a haven for divisiveness.
And that's where we disagree. It's not really anywhere else, but there. Trying to maintain balance will, at best, cause people to leave and, at worst, give them a talking point of bias.
Yes, because you'll heard people into 2 groups, and then try to balance that out. You'll say or at least listen to others say what I post is Conservative, and say I'm never critical of Trump. The problem is that even when I am critical of Trump, people utterly miss it. That says they have already marked me a Conservative.
Even Trump is not a Conservative at times. And Hillary was far from a Liberal for that matter. This 'balance' forces classification, and it quickly becomes 1-dimensional with 2 sides.
But in several of those, I felt I was already trying to 'bridge' between several viewpoints, and I was starting to get tired of the 'Progressive with/against us' non-sense that W. and Conservatives did in the '00s that drove me bonkers. Never in my mind did I believe I'd be defending more Conservatives than Progressives (who have replaced Liberals) just 15 years ago.
If the Progressives would stop with the petty stuff, and focus on the "big picture," they'd find I'd agree with them more than not. E.g., the biggest issue with Trump-Kavanaugh right now is what happens if POTUS is subpoenaed, and refuses to show -- and the SCOTUS makes a political vote?
I'd rather talk about that, as would Classic Liberal Democrats, but instead, we're on this #resist non-sense, and so much crap that just isn't remotely true, misappropriated, and easily disproven. So I end up having to call out Progressives far more, just as the Classic, Liberal Democrats end up having to do.
My best friend in the office is a Democrat who worked on the Kerry campaign. Even he said the "turning point" is when he had to defend Ann Coulter from Progressives, and both of us dislike her greatly.
This thread is too touchy-feely now. We need fewer apologies and more insults. Like serious insults. Not "yo-mama" type insults but the ones that make you cry yourself to sleep. I'll start.
Ninja has never been loved and never will be loved. He watches japanese anime porno to make himself feel better about the fact that nobody loves him. His mama so fat, wait, thats off limits. Hashtag sarcasm. Hashtag ninja so fat when his mama sits around the house she wishes she never gave birth. Hashtag best post ever.
Ninja has never been loved and never will be loved. He watches japanese anime porno to make himself feel better about the fact that nobody loves him. His mama so fat, wait, thats off limits. Hashtag sarcasm. Hashtag ninja so fat when his mama sits around the house she wishes she never gave birth. Hashtag best post ever.
In all seriousness, I gave up on Ninja long ago. He's like a pure US media instrument that will take what you said, well out-of-context, and twist it into something completely different, and then post it into a half-dozen different threads and never shut-up, even if you ignore him, even after a half-dozen people point out how something was never said. He's literally our own, US media talking head implement for the board ... like 24x7 news. That's why I've long put him on ignore. That said ...
I'm fine with Ninja acting like that around here. It's his MO and his life. I just don't interact with him any more. Sometimes I get confused in a thread, and look at the ignored posts to get the context, but even then I've stopped posting what he said. No sense to even acknowledge him any more than I am in this post.
I've never liked censorship when ignore just works fine. Same goes for people ignoring my posts for whatever reasons they see fit.
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BS only liked my previous post because he is a terrible human being. Almost child-rapist level, but libertarian which excuses it in his mind. Thank god we have laws that prevent him from being within 200 yards od a school. Laws are meant to keep libertarians from destroying God and country.
Damn straight! Oh wait, you said BS and not 85 -- those letters and numbers look too damn alike!
Damn straight! Oh wait, you said BS and not 85 -- those letters and numbers look too damn alike!
Whatever you have to tell yourself. We all know that you look like my dogs butthole.
This sounds like the Cooler version of The Fairness Doctrine. You do know that the Fairness Doctrine was repealed by the FCC. Is it conservatives fault that no one likes to listen to idealistic liberal blither?
Thankless and fruitless. Being a moderator of this board is akin to being 'the referee' of a pro wrestling match.
Got dammit. Wrestling might not be real, but this is a real midget getting his shit kicked right outta the ring:
Got dammit. Wrestling might not be real, but this is a real midget getting his shit kicked right outta the ring:
And people say that pro-wrestling is fake. That little guy went down harder than your mom last night.
Nah. She didnt want money. Just wanted to snort a line out of my sweaty buttcrack, which was weird but we've all been there. Am I right Bartman?
Would you like the details? Actually, nevermind. I'll post the pictures, most of them are prior to the arrest.
