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Biden is allowed out of his basement to give a pre-prepared statement

Hey look, the village idiot decided to try to hide his ignorance with derision. What a great contributor you are to this forum.

My thoughts on this reaction have been consistent since the very first days. It has nothing to do with some existential argument about the virus. It has everything to do with the behavior of the media and leadership in reaction to the virus and how it has pushed public sentiment and created hysteria. The leadership has either exploited this virus to score political points or allowed ignorant public hysteria to push dangerous policy decisions that have done more harm than good and were unnecessary from the beginning. But hey, I only work on biodefense systems and CONOPS for a living. What the hell do I know?
The hysteria makes people cautious and that is exactly what is/was needed to slow the spread of this. The inconsistent message from the federal government is what has caused unnecessary deaths and therefore low consumer confidence. Can't wait until we vote Biden out of office, he's done a terrible job handling Corona.
 
Now that's a scary-ass thought.

Apparently, not much. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to know that following the advice of the world's leading viral scientists would be a start. Once upon a time, the Trump Administration actually laid out some solid recommendations for reopening the economy based on the recommendations of their scientists--and then proceeded to ignore them.

"The world's leading viral scientists". Any examples of how they have proven their worth when it comes to Covid? "Wear a mask and stay home" doesn't seem like the kind of thing the world's best scientists should have after 10 months. They are only "leading scientists" because you give them that label.
 
Now that's a scary-ass thought.

Apparently, not much. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to know that following the advice of the world's leading viral scientists would be a start. Once upon a time, the Trump Administration actually laid out some solid recommendations for reopening the economy based on the recommendations of their scientists--and then proceeded to ignore them.

High IQ people bad.
 
"The world's leading viral scientists". Any examples of how they have proven their worth when it comes to Covid? "Wear a mask and stay home" doesn't seem like the kind of thing the world's best scientists should have after 10 months.
Not sexy enough for you, huh?

God forbid we actually pay attention instead of acting like we know more than these health experts do.
 
Not sexy enough for you, huh?

God forbid we actually pay attention instead of acting like we know more than these health experts do.
Lol. No, it has nothing to do with sexiness. Its more the idea that the best advice the world's leading experts can come up with is "dont catch it". My neighbors 4 year old daughter could tell you that, so she's basically on the same level as "the experts".
 
Ah right, you read a few articles and so you feel empowered to pass judgement.
I read the Trump Administration's guidelines -- and guess what? I actually liked them, and said so here.

Then I watched State after State (you know, places like Florida, Georgia, Texas, and Arizona) open early before they satisfied those federal guidelines that Trump had previously laid out (and strangely, they did it WITH Trump's blessing...wtf?)

The word was at the time -- from geniuses like YOU by the way -- was that we simply couldn't afford to NOT reopen States early. We HAD to push forward regardless. So how exactly did that work out?

I guess I "feel empowered to pass judgement" because after ignoring the science, these States and their Chud governors witnessed a serious resurgence in their Covid-19 infection numbers.

Wow---Who could have predicted THAT happening, right??!? [eyeroll]
 
The hysteria makes people cautious and that is exactly what is/was needed to slow the spread of this. The inconsistent message from the federal government is what has caused unnecessary deaths and therefore low consumer confidence. Can't wait until we vote Biden out of office, he's done a terrible job handling Corona.
I'm not happy with the messaging and the way it's moved around either. Like I said, leadership has been swayed by public hysteria and political goals. The messaging has been shit as has been the constant attacking of the President's message by other leaders of our country. You can't simply single out Trump as a leader and ignore the leadership in the House and the governors. We are not a monarchy with only one ultimate leader. They all deserve blame and yet all but one get a pass and the tacit agreement of the media to simply attack Trump because of the upcoming election.

There is a lifecycle of response for pandemics and this disease is no different, once you've waded through all the bullshit on both sides. A lot of us are arguing about minutiae as if it's the most important thing in the world when most of it would have had little or no impact. We also only see immediate effect and not the secondary, tertiary, and beyond effects in the macro sense because we are limited to "scary virus must be scared".

And yes, there is a place for scaring people into action. I have said from the very beginning that, when we AAR this, the actions are going to be far more damaging than the value we got from them and we could've done a few different things that would've been just as effective without the damage caused. But that takes years to come out so we argue and fight over stupid shit.
 
I'm not happy with the messaging and the way it's moved around either.
Well, I'll be damned. You're not happy with it -- yet you attack me for pointing out the asinine statements that came out of our Commander-in-Chief's mouth? Funny how that works. :)

Isn't it leadership's role to control the "public hysteria" rather than fuel it? It is true that in our high tech, modern world we have information coming at us from all the usual sources and social media. But I would argue that there was zero effort from the White House to build faith and trust in our national response, in fact, I would argue the reverse was true.

A Real Leader in the White House - whether he/she was a Democrat or a Republican -- would have immediately worked to mobilize the nation like a war-time President to:
  1. Get private industry immediately moving to address our hospital needs since we were clearly so unprepared for a pandemic (In the wake of 9/11 we created a new cottage industry called "Homeland Security" -- for WHAT pray tell if we weren't remotely prepared for this pandemic?);
  2. Have a nationwide mask-wearing in public and social distancing mandate; (duh) and
  3. Ratchet up a comprehensive testing program that would have allowed us to immediately address outbreaks as they happened.

If we'd taken these three simple steps, would the virus have gone away? Nope, it's with us until we have a vaccine and beyond. But it would have certainly addressed public trust and allowed us to reopen the economy in a way that would have been far beyond where we are now.
 
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"The world's leading viral scientists". Any examples of how they have proven their worth when it comes to Covid? "Wear a mask and stay home" doesn't seem like the kind of thing the world's best scientists should have after 10 months. They are only "leading scientists" because you give them that label.
Exactly! Once we know what it is, how virulent it is, and how it spreads, we are all leading scientists. What has Fucti done so special??

Find a vaccine, leading scientists.
 
The leading scientists in 1918 did nothing less than these morons in 2020
 
Exactly! Once we know what it is, how virulent it is, and how it spreads, we are all leading scientists. What has Fucti done so special??

Find a vaccine, leading scientists.
Well we are never going to know how infectious or virulent it is at this point. We'll probably never know how many people actually died from it. Testing asymptomatic people was a huge mistake.
 
He’s too old to run a country. Don’t be surprised if something drastic happens to him from a health standpoint
Would anyone actually be surprised if he has a health event in the next couple of months and Harris replaces him at the top of the ticket?
 
He’s too old to run a country. Don’t be surprised if something drastic happens to him from a health standpoint
You don't "run a country". You hire the best people, empower them and manage them.
 


Geez. The guy is obviously worn out. I dont know how much longer he can keep this up.
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You don't "run a country". You hire the best people, empower them and manage them.

no no no. You hire the best people and tell everyone you just hired the best people and then fire them/watch them get arrested six months later and explain to the world that they weren’t the best people/are suckers and losers and you’re bigly glad they aren’t working for you any longer.
 
no no no. You hire the best people and tell everyone you just hired the best people and then fire them/watch them get arrested six months later and explain to the world that they weren’t the best people/are suckers and losers and you’re bigly glad they aren’t working for you any longer.
Close. If you’re a career politician, you recycle the same people that worked in the last administration from your party and sprinkle in some interns and youth to replace those that retired or died. This ensures the stability and security of the ruling class.

If you’re a bombastic NY businessman and not a career politician, then apparently you do as above.
 
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I’ve said all along both Trump and Biden are not my first choice for president due to advanced age. Both are a decade past when most people are looking to retire to a golf course somewhere. The other Democratic options like Elizabeth Warren and Bernie suffered from the same issue. Trump was already the oldest president in history to assume office. These guys aren’t getting more lucid as time drags on.
 
Close. If you’re a career politician, you recycle the same people that worked in the last administration from your party and sprinkle in some interns and youth to replace those that retired or died. This ensures the stability and security of the ruling class.

If you’re a bombastic NY businessman and not a career politician, then apparently you do as above.

Like nearly all organizations.
 
I’ve said all along both Trump and Biden are not my first choice for president due to advanced age. Both are a decade past when most people are looking to retire to a golf course somewhere. The other Democratic options like Elizabeth Warren and Bernie suffered from the same issue. Trump was already the oldest president in history to assume office. These guys aren’t getting more lucid as time drags on.
At least you admit that Biden isn’t a good candidate. He’s not
 
I was never a fan of Clinton either. People assume because I call out Trumps shenanigans that I’m all in on the Democratic Party. Nah. I would have voted a candidate like Kasich in 2016.
Kasich was a flag in the wind. He’d feed you nothing but hot air and get out before the consequences of his lack of leadership hit.
 
I'm not reading this whole thread, but just want to make sure someone made fun of 85 for the title containing a made up word.


Does he not understand the word "prepared" literally already has a "pre" in it? No need to add an extra "pre".
 
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