Can This Really be Happening? A BIPARTISAN Infrastructure Bill?

[DaShuckster]

Biden, senators reach bipartisan infrastructure framework | FOX 28 Spokane

(The Center Square) - The Biden administration said Thursday it has reached an agreement on infrastructure with a coalition of Senate Democrats and Republicans. The White House announced a $1.2 trillion infrastructure package with $579 billion in new spending. The package designates $312 billion...

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It's not a done deal yet but -- GOODNESS GRACIOUS -- is it really possible that the Senate might actually come together enough to pass an infrastructure bill?

This is the most encouraging development I've seen come out of Washington is a LONG time!!! Maybe America can actually get through this God-awful, toxic period in our history.

 

[Crazyhole]

Won't pass because we can't afford it.

Oh wait, nevermind. We can just print the money.

 

[goodknightfl]

It is the beltway Rino's in action. Give the Dems 2/3 of what they want and make it easier to bring the rest in under reconciliation. I agree we need to keep working on roads and bridges, I just hope they go somewhere.
We are already to the point that inflation is going to run amok, and interest rates will be going up, and the government won't be able to pay the interest on the debt. So what's a few trillion more added on. Bankrupt is
Bankrupt.

 

[Crazyhole]

It is the beltway Rino's in action. Give the Dems 2/3 of what they want and make it easier to bring the rest in under reconciliation. I agree we need to keep working on roads and bridges, I just hope they go somewhere.
We are already to the point that inflation is going to run amok, and interest rates will be going up, and the government won't be able to pay the interest on the debt. So what's a few trillion more added on. Bankrupt is
Bankrupt.

If the FED really does raise interest rates, we will know that they are trying to destroy the dollar.

 

[hemightbejeremy]

It is the beltway Rino's in action. Give the Dems 2/3 of what they want and make it easier to bring the rest in under reconciliation. I agree we need to keep working on roads and bridges, I just hope they go somewhere.
We are already to the point that inflation is going to run amok, and interest rates will be going up, and the government won't be able to pay the interest on the debt. So what's a few trillion more added on. Bankrupt is
Bankrupt.

T bonds are sold with a finite target date and finite interest rate. Debt accrued today doesn’t incur an additional interest penalty at some hypothetical date when interest rates rise. Debt accrued today will have historically one of the lowest interest rates in history.

 

[Crazyhole]

MSN

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Why were people of color not included in this deal? AOC is right to call out this form of racism.

 

[OLearyLastCall]

Some really excellent gamesmanship going on in DC.

Pelosi said she's not passing this bipartisan bill without passing another reconciliation bill. Biden, but more importantly Manchin and Sinema seem committed to both. It's early, but looks like it helps to have a DC veteran in the White House to get important legislation done.

 

[Crazyhole]

Some really excellent gamesmanship going on in DC.

Pelosi said she's not passing this bipartisan bill without passing another reconciliation bill. Biden, but more importantly Manchin and Sinema seem committed to both. It's early, but looks like it helps to have a DC veteran in the White House to get important legislation done.

So Biden spoke too soon. There is no deal.

 

[Crazyhole]

Joe must have been confused when he declared “we have a deal” on a major infrastructure initiative after meeting with a bipartisan group of senators. Because, after announcing this, he later said "I won't sign bipartisan spending deal" without Democrats' infrastructure wish list. Biden said "If this (bipartisan deal) is the only one that comes to me, I’m not signing it, it’s in tandem." As Senators and media reporters looked stunned and confused, in a follow-up confused utterance, Biden again declared "I'm not just signing the bipartisan bill and forgetting about the rest that I proposed". Gotta have the entitlement spending and budget increases to go along with the deal he helped put together..

Facepalm.

 

[Knight In TN]

MSN

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Why were people of color not included in this deal? AOC is right to call out this form of racism.

“You might think you like this bill. But did you know that all the people who wrote it are white?? That changes things, doesn’t it?”

That is textbook racism right there.

 

[Crazyhole]

“You might think you like this bill. But did you know that all the people who wrote it are white?? That changes things, doesn’t it?”

That is textbook racism right there.

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[hemightbejeremy]

 

[hemightbejeremy]

 

[goodknightfl]

T bonds are sold with a finite target date and finite interest rate. Debt accrued today doesn’t incur an additional interest penalty at some hypothetical date when interest rates rise. Debt accrued today will have historically one of the lowest interest rates in history.

For now, Most Federal borrowing over the last 20 years has been short term, Trump tried to set up more long term borrowing while the rates were so low, I don't think he had much success at it.

 

[Poolside Knight]

Schumer is not good at his job but Biden is. Just look at turtle McConnel’s reaction to the meeting . Sets up him and the GOP to being No on everything If it falls apart. The optics of having Republicans on the WH lawn with Biden will play well away from the fringes(this board/Dungeon)

 

[DaShuckster]

Unless the extremists on either side somehow nix it, the passage of this bill will represent a long overdue victory for The Moderate Middle.

 

[DaShuckster]

This thread also deleted in 3. 2. 1.....

You should know by now that this is one of The Most Lightly Moderated Boards out there. If a thread gets deleted HERE, that's really saying something.

 

[NinjaKnight]

Impressive anything gets passed considering turtle McConnel has said his goal is to oppose getting anything accomplished.

 

[Crazyhole]

Unless the extremists on either side somehow nix it, the passage of this bill will represent a long overdue victory for The Moderate Middle.

Uh, that makes Biden an extremist.

 

[goodknightfl]

Unless the extremists on either side somehow nix it, the passage of this bill will represent a long overdue victory for The Moderate Middle.

Biden already nixed it. He said if he doesn't get this plus all the stuff he wanted that isn't in this he won't sign.

 

[Nautiknight]

a couple decades ago I did a short stint working for the Volusia County MPO as their bike ped coordinator and GIS guy. MPOs are the local organization for planning and prioritizing federal transportation dollars. We were on 7 year cycle between transportation funding bills. Those were bipartisan efforts nearly Everytime. Democrats and Republicans love spending OPM especially on roads, bridges, rail trails, busses and trains and ports too.

my gut is if this was a true straight up transportation bill there would be little fan fare. However, they are packing this bill with bull crap which has zero to do with infrastructure and transportation specifically. That's the problem. If I could do 3 things to DC it would be mandate single issue bills, a balanced budget amendment and term limits so we never see the likes of McConnell, Shumer,Pelosi, Ryan , that worthless Senator from Maine and many more on both sides of the isle.

 

[Poolside Knight]

 

[DaShuckster]

It's about damn time we had a bipartisan bill pass the Senate.

The Senate Approves The $1 Trillion Bipartisan Infrastructure Bill In A Historic Vote

The vote is a victory for a group of bipartisan Senate negotiators who worked with the White House to craft the agreement. The measure faces an uphill path in the House.

www.npr.org

 

[OLearyLastCall]

Biden already nixed it. He said if he doesn't get this plus all the stuff he wanted that isn't in this he won't sign.

BDS.

 

[DaShuckster]

Biden already nixed it. He said if he doesn't get this plus all the stuff he wanted that isn't in this he won't sign.

You wanna bet me he won't sign the bill after it passes the House?

 

[goodknightfl]

agree he will sign it . it was simply a threat. I simply said what he said at the time. Should have know as a long term politician he was lying as usual.

 

[chemmie]

It is so much better when Republicans are skyrocketing the debt to line the ultra-wealthy's pockets.

 

[chemmie]

It is the beltway Rino's in action. Give the Dems 2/3 of what they want and make it easier to bring the rest in under reconciliation. I agree we need to keep working on roads and bridges, I just hope they go somewhere.
We are already to the point that inflation is going to run amok, and interest rates will be going up, and the government won't be able to pay the interest on the debt. So what's a few trillion more added on. Bankrupt is
Bankrupt.

Maybe you should have cared more about it when Reagan, Bush, Bush, and Trump, were shooting our deficit to the moon and Clinton and Obama shrank it.

 

[Poolside Knight]

 

[goodknightfl]

Schumer is not good at his job but Biden is. Just look at turtle McConnel’s reaction to the meeting . Sets up him and the GOP to being No on everything If it falls apart. The optics of having Republicans on the WH lawn with Biden will play well away from the fringes(this board/Dungeon)

that is a scary thought.

 

[Poolside Knight]

 

[DaShuckster]

Finally we can say Congress actually accomplished something.

 

[goodknightfl]

Finally we can say Congress actually accomplished something.

Yep, Put us another Trillion in the hole.

 

[DaShuckster]

Yep, Put us another Trillion in the hole.

You're AGAINST money for our infrastructure? Wow.

 

[NinjaKnight]

You're AGAINST money for our infrastructure? Wow.

Yet he had zero problems with trumps trillion dollar deficit that was a literal cash grab for the 1%.

But fixing our roads is bad lmao. It's almost comical how goddamn stupid these fox news brainwashed cult members have become.

 

[goodknightfl]

I was against Trumps big spending as well. Bottom line is we have Blown the debt through the roof, at some point enough is enough. Inflation is out of control in large part because we are dumping more and more $$ into the economy chasing fewer and fewer goods. And I would argue on a side note dumping tons of money into new building projects while building products are at all time highs is not a good time to be doing the building. That is not when you get bang for your buck.

 

[Crazyhole]

I was against Trumps big spending as well. Bottom line is we have Blown the debt through the roof, at some point enough is enough. Inflation is out of control in large part because we are dumping more and more $$ into the economy chasing fewer and fewer goods. And I would argue on a side note dumping tons of money into new building projects while building products are at all time highs is not a good time to be doing the building. That is not when you get bang for your buck.

Yep. It's the exact opposite of what Keynes said that a country should do. All we are going to get is more overpriced construction projects.

 

[DaShuckster]

I was against Trumps big spending as well. Bottom line is we have Blown the debt through the roof, at some point enough is enough.

Sooooo.....you want to draw the line at fixing our roads and bridges??!?

 

[NinjaKnight]

Sooooo.....you want to draw the line at fixing our roads and bridges??!?

Yeah that's socialism according to goodknights fox news

 

[Crazyhole]

Sooooo.....you want to draw the line at fixing our roads and bridges??!?

Should have been 12 trillion.