There was a 16% increase year over year in all cause mortality rate from 2019 to 2020. The numbers are in. More than 400k additional deaths over expected in the US. The fake deaths thing is so 12 months ago.
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There is normally a decreasing death rate per capita per year as human lifespans get longer. From 2018 to 2019 for example it dropped 1.2%. The 16% increase from 2019 to 2020 was a per capita number. So there goes that theory. The excess deaths have actually carried over into 2021 so your other theory that everybody died in 2020 of Covid who was going to die in 2021 of natural causes anyway is also bunk.
It’s really difficult to say what exactly the cause was for excess deaths in 2020. The government decided to classify anyone who died and tested positive for Covid as a Covid death rather than having a normal primary cause and a virus as secondary. On top of that there were a lot of excess deaths due to lockdown. Missed medical appointments, deaths related to unemployment, overdoses, suicides, the murder rate was up and who knows what else. Those numbers would extend into 2021. I have no idea what the actual covid death total was, the government decided early to completely change how we respond to a virus and crap went downhill from there.
It’s not difficult at all since doctors and medical examiners stated Covid on the death certificates of 370k+ last year. And suicides and homicides, overdoses, etc. are actually tracked. Suicides were up roughly 2k people from 2019 to 2020, homicides were up roughly 3k from 2019 to 2020. Automobile accident deaths were up about 4K, and overdose deaths up roughly 15k (have been trending up every year even before Covid). So while you are right, there were upticks in other causes in 2020, they are quantifiable and only a portion of the difference between excess deaths and what is captured as a Covid death.
It’s actually just the deaths from covid that are the problem. Which ones died from Covid bvs with Covid and how much do we trust PCR testing? The actual number of Covid deaths are probably far less than what has been reported.
Because the US has a rather high percentage of obese and unhealthy people, I would imagine we fared worse than other developed nations. Also, the US has a very large elderly population (and population in general). With the median age of Covid death being 78-80 and the elderly being the most at risk group, our country probably had it worse there too. With those things as a caveat, it’s still hard to believe the death toll is correct. Is it 25 % too high? 50? 75? Hell, maybe the numbers were under reported because there wasn’t really a good standard for what constitutes a covid death. I don’t know, I’m just a dummy on the internet.
Lumping all demographics together, the US case fatality rate (CFR) of 1.8% is better than almost all of the European developed nations. Had been for most of the Trump admin and now into the Biden admin. Deaths per 100k population is pretty low too. One would think this was the most important stat of the entire thing but it’s pretty much ignored for some reason.
COVID-19 pandemic death rates by country - Wikipedia
Where did the excess deaths come from? Even if you remove suicide, overdose, homicide, accidental deaths, etc., there are still close to 400k excess deaths for 2020. Come on man. It’s Covid.
As @NinjaKnight has reminded me on numerous occasions, you mistakenly assume logic plays a role in WC discussions.
Maybe you’re right. I have a habit of testing ideas that I don’t hold to tightly to see what I can flush out. I do it on message boards instead of real life because of the anonymity. Trying to test conspiracy theories in face to face conversations gets weird, especially if the person agrees with you. I’ve said it before, but I don’t always believe the crap I spew on here (or at least hold it further away from my core beliefs), it’s just safer to filter ideas on a message board. Good responses, thanks.
The Fed Cares Act incentivized putting Covid on the death certificate, additional fed money if they did when hospitals we're hurting. That's why everyone who died with Covid suddenly died from Covid
So what really killed the extra 400k that died last year? Some other mysterious illness?
drugs, alcohol, not going to the hospital for fear of covid, suicide. There's 330 million people in the country, if you lock them in their house for a year it's not good for them, that's why we've never tried it before. Maybe covid killed the people in poor health that the flu would have killed over the next 3 years.
Like I stated previously. The number of those things are known. Suicides up 2k. Homicides up 2.7k. Overdoses up 15k. There is still 400k unaccounted for. They aren’t mistaking drug overdoses, suicides, and murders for Covid.
Come on, obviously this guy "B wizzle man" on a ucf sports message board knows more about pandemic related causes of death than doctors.
Don't be such a sheep. When someone killed themselves with a gun to the head the doctors marked the cause of death as covid. It's all over Infowars. Open your eyes.
Someday, probably in another lifetime, I hope you figure out how this infectious disease business works.
Two more weeks, Trump fault for not acting sooner, triple masks and triple shots and we'll have this enough under control that we may not need the big white floating hospital.
Apparently there is a meeting amongst the State Governors to coordinate their response to COVID with the federal government. This started in the Trump administration and went for 40 weeks during that admin, being led in 39 of them by Vice President Pence. This was a productive meeting for a long time (yeah, I know the accepted group think that Trump and crew did nothing on COVID).
This group still meets during the Biden era, apparently minus the President and the VP (to her credit she did reportedly attend 5 minutes of one meeting). Unfortunately, there is no federal leadership so the mantle of leader of the National Governors Association coordination effort with the federal government is none other than Gov. Cuomo of New York.
And people have the temerity to praise the Biden Administration’s COVID efforts with a straight face.
This group still meets during the Biden era, apparently minus the President and the VP (to her credit she did reportedly attend 5 minutes of one meeting). Unfortunately, there is no federal leadership so the mantle of leader of the National Governors Association coordination effort with the federal government is none other than Gov. Cuomo of New York.
And people have the temerity to praise the Biden Administration’s COVID efforts with a straight face.
LOL I noticed you didn't post a link for some strange reason.
Let me guess: You were fed some red meat by Breitbart or one of their ilk.
We all know they can’t all live down to the journalistic standards (or lack thereof) of CNN and the New York Times but here ya go: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/a..._biden_vp_skip_weekly_covid_calls_145651.htmlLOL I noticed you didn't post a link for some strange reason.
Let me guess: You were fed some red meat by Breitbart or one of their ilk.
I love how you guys are bragging about making cult members look stupid. Not exactly a tough task. Do you troll the flat earther forums making fun of the morons there as well?
chin up, princess. what's got you all pissy this time?
