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Coward Pelosi may throw tent on her own circus, not send impeachment to Senate

I'm not a true believer of Trump. But you and your Democrat gods are so fanatical in your pursuit of overturning the election that you're running roughshod over the Constitution that they all of a sudden decided wasn't an obsolete document but instead was sacrosanct in how it was written even as they ignore things like co-equal branches of government. You're forcing even moderates into a position of defending the President because of your increasing fanaticism throughout the 3 years of using and then abusing the power of Congress to generate TV ads. Then you demagogue anyone that calls out the antics as being a MAGA, red-hatter, true Trump believer. At some point, you're going to have to let up on the hyperbole and come back to normal.

As for the Senate trial, why give any more airtime to the Democrat's political theater? That's exactly what they want. Why try to prove yourself innocent when no one has put forth a good case as to why you are guilty? No, the Senate leadership is handling this perfectly. Time to end the farce and stop wasting taxpayer money.

What have they done that is unconstitutional? And impeachment isn't over turning an election. But if that is the argument, then should we just get rid of impeachment altogether?

And it is funny, not that long ago most conservatives on this board were saying the Republicans were going to drag this out and drag Democrats through the mud, but I guess that sentiment has changed. Trump supposedly does want a big theatrical trial though.
 
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What you're missing is that it is not the place of the accused in America to disprove allegations against them. Contrary to Rep. Hoyer's blatant lies that Trump has to "prove his innocence" and "exonerate himself," that is not how our system works. The burden of proof falls on the accuser, not the accused. The House wildly stacked the deck in their favor in the inquiry and still didn't come out with a case that compelled the American public. So why would the Senate push any further? You said, and Schiff said, and Pelosi said, that impeachment is a political process. You set the rules. So why wouldn't the Senate follow along the same path. They have as much of a case against Trump as the House could possibly build. Vote on that.

I respectfully disagree with applying this logic. It's hard to draw an analogy, because nothing is quote like being POTUS. You draw an analogy to a criminal process where the state is going to deprive someone of their constitution right to liberty. I'll draw an analogy to CEO who serves at the pleasure of shareholders via the Board of Directors.

If the board were to receive a credible "whistleblower" complaint from an employee, alleging some kind of corrupt acts that placed the CEO's interests ahead of the shareholders, they would have a duty to investigate. If the CEO simply chooses to ignore the Board's requests all together, they are going to fire him. If the evidence creates a strong circumstantial case, and the CEO wants to keep his job, the burden does fall back on him to explain his actions.

I think there is an argument against the Democrats for the speedy process. However, I think there's an equally compelling argument that the Executive should not be able to run-out-the-clock on possible impeachment using the courts.

Here's a hypothetical for you - If the Senate did call for witnesses and documents, and the White House employed the exact same tactics they did with the House - what then?
 
It's really simple: coward Nancy Pelosi can either send her sham articles of impeachment to the Senate like the Constitution requires IF your intention is to lead a serious pursuit of removing a President. Or, she and the rest of her nitwits can withhold them, grandstand, cry about Mitch McConnell, and continue wasting everyone's time with a strategy that they stupidly think will impress voters.

Either way, I'm good. Pelosi and Schiff have thoroughly embarrassed the Democratic Party so far and they'll continue doing so either way.
 
you and your Democrat gods are so fanatical in your pursuit of overturning the election that you're running roughshod over the Constitution

I guess the 2018 election is fine to overturn?

You know, the election that seated this congress. This congress which is doing their constitutional duty. This congress that has followed the rules. I guess its OK to overturn the 2018 election by ignoring the powers granted to the fairly elected house of representatives by the constitution of the United States.


The senate remains in Republican control due to 6 year terms but let's not act like the people of America didn't make their will known in 2018. This is what they wanted.
 
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It's really simple: coward Nancy Pelosi can either send her sham articles of impeachment to the Senate like the Constitution requires IF your intention is to lead a serious pursuit of removing a President. Or, she and the rest of her nitwits can withhold them, grandstand, cry about Mitch McConnell, and continue wasting everyone's time with a strategy that they stupidly think will impress voters.

Either way, I'm good. Pelosi and Schiff have thoroughly embarrassed the Democratic Party so far and they'll continue doing so either way.
She'll send it when she's ready bitch.
 
It's really simple: coward Nancy Pelosi can either send her sham articles of impeachment to the Senate like the Constitution requires IF your intention is to lead a serious pursuit of removing a President. Or, she and the rest of her nitwits can withhold them, grandstand, cry about Mitch McConnell, and continue wasting everyone's time with a strategy that they stupidly think will impress voters.

Either way, I'm good. Pelosi and Schiff have thoroughly embarrassed the Democratic Party so far and they'll continue doing so either way.
Proof that @ShinobiWolf and all of his various board incarnations is far from the worst troll we've got here.
 
No, you're a far better troll because you actually get us to engage in conversation with you even though it is pointless.
Yeah, I'm a good troll because I try sharing facts with you that clearly make you uncomfortable.

My intent is to help educate you about the corrupt bag-of-wind you helped elect and put in the White House. Sadly, you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.

Spin this however you want, history will be on my side -- and I think, in your heart of hearts, you know it.
 
Nothing she is doing is unconstitutional.

I thought he was a danger to the country/national security and it was the duty of the house to remove him from office? Doesn’t seem like that’s a priority anymore.

She's glad to send it to a fair process. So far she's been able to use McConnells direct quotes to justify holding it back from being quickly dismissed by a dude who is essentially the personal representative of Donald Trump.

yeah the house was fair.... our turn. I can’t wait.
 
I just love how each side ascribes things they dont like to politics and things they do like as being constitutional.
 
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I thought he was a danger to the country/national security and it was the duty of the house to remove him from office? Doesn’t seem like that’s a priority anymore.
Actually, its such a priority that the House wants some assurances that the Senate leadership is going to take it seriously, particularly given Moscow Mitch's comments to FOX NEWS.
yeah the house was fair.... our turn. I can’t wait.
I'm sure the Senate trial will be exceedingly fair, thorough, and impartial. They'll get the real players in this saga to testify so all Americans will know what did, or didn't happen, right?
 
YActually, its such a priority that the House wants some assurances that the Senate leadership is going to take it seriously, particularly given Moscow Mitch's comments to FOX NEWS.
I'm sure the Senate trial will be exceedingly fair, thorough, and impartial. They'll get the real players in this saga to testify so all Americans will know what did, or didn't happen, right?
The house had the ability to call those players as well. Why didn't they follow through and rush this thing? Impeachment subpoenas would be a priority for SCOTUS so it would have only taken a few weeks to accomplish their goal of getting testimony from anyone they wanted.
 
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Nothing about that is dumb. If it's a sham then get it to the Senate and finally put this nonsense to bed.

Remember, you’re talking to an emotionally distressed snowflake who has been shown up on this board so many times regarding his obsessive hate for Trump. The dude spent two years jerking it to every false Russia conspiracy that the HuffPo sooo fed him, and went insane once all of that blew up in his face

naturally he’s supremely butthurt realizing impeachment was a hilariously bad idea
 
There are a few things that are truisms in the Cooler. One of them that is if Greta (Der Shookboi) supports something, he's overwhelmingly dead wrong about it and is going to look like a fool in the end.

I predict nothing different when it comes to this whole impeachment thang. 2025 can't get here fast enough for him.
 
Look at how shook and angry this little twat is
Take him for what he is: an antagonist. Never presents an argument that supports facts, just belittles or trolls anyone that disagrees with him. (S)he thrives on confrontation in a safe space where (s)he can't be held accountable. Continually is proven wrong but resorts to hyperbole, strawman arguments or anecdotal evidence to stir up controversy which his leftist brethren gravitate towards like a fly to crap.
 
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It is a political calculation of course, but it also gives her some leverage to at least try and insure it is a somewhat of a fair process

Which MADAME NANCY PELOSI SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE deserves because it has been nothing short of fair & balanced up to this point
 
Look at how shook and angry this little twat is

Classic projection. Look at your posts when you isolate the rage. This is the mad that you managed to fit into 6 total sentences. Its actually impressive.

coward sham nitwits grandstand wasting everyone's time stupidly embarrassed emotionally distressed snowflake obsessive hate for Trump jerking it to every false Russia conspiracy blew up in his face supremely butthurt impeachment hilariously bad
 
YActually, its such a priority that the House wants some assurances that the Senate leadership is going to take it seriously, particularly given Moscow Mitch's comments to FOX NEWS.
I'm sure the Senate trial will be exceedingly fair, thorough, and impartial. They'll get the real players in this saga to testify so all Americans will know what did, or didn't happen, right?

no, I was assured that he needed to be removed immediately, no time to wait

the fact that this circus in the house happened and now they want fairness is beyond laughable. Those assclowns made a mockery of themselves. Landslide 2020.
 
Take him for what he is: an antagonist. Never presents an argument that supports facts, just belittles or trolls anyone that disagrees with him. (S)he thrives on confrontation in a safe space where (s)he can't be held accountable. Continually is proven wrong but resorts to hyperbole, strawman arguments or anecdotal evidence to stir up controversy which his leftist brethren gravitate towards like a fly to crap.
Thank you for not assuming my gender but I actually identify as a Pansexual Transgender Hispanic Happy Holidays Starbucks Cup that has been signed by future NFL hall of famer Colin Kaepernick so please use my preferred pronoun of "they."
 
no, I was assured that he needed to be removed immediately, no time to wait
You, me and Nancy Pelosi all know that there's not a chance in hell that the GOP Senate is going to convict Trump. But if they're not even going to pretend to have a real trial as Moscow Mitch and Lindsay Graham have said, then I think it's a great idea for Pelosi to hold their feet to the fire and demand a trial with some real teeth or simply hold on to the impeachment bill.
 
You, me and Nancy Pelosi all know that there's not a chance in hell that the GOP Senate is going to convict Trump. But if they're not even going to pretend to have a real trial as Moscow Mitch and Lindsay Graham have said, then I think it's a great idea for Pelosi to hold their feet to the fire and demand a trial with some real teeth or simply hold on to the impeachment bill.
You are so quick to call everyone in the world hypocrites but you cant bring yourself to admit to the hypocrisy in Pelosi’s position?
 
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You are so quick to call everyone in the world hypocrites but you cant bring yourself to admit to the hypocrisy in Pelosi’s position?
Please explain to us all the hypocrisy of Pelosi's position.

She's not sending the articles forward until she has some assurances that the Senate leadership will treat them with the seriousness they deserve.
 
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Please explain to us all the hypocrisy of Pelosi's position.

She's not sending the articles forward until she has some assurances that the Senate leadership will treat them with the seriousness they deserve.

It's cute how you continue to try and use facts and logic to change the minds of these idiots on here who don't use facts and logic to come to their beliefs.
 
Please explain to us all the hypocrisy of Pelosi's position.

She's not sending the articles forward until she has some assurances that the Senate leadership will treat them with the seriousness they deserve.

One of the articles of impeachment is "obstruction of congress" because trump didn't comply with their subpoenas. If the senate asks for the articles of impeachment as it's written out in the constitution, does that mean she should also be impeached for obstruction?
 
One of the articles of impeachment is "obstruction of congress" because trump didn't comply with their subpoenas. If the senate asks for the articles of impeachment as it's written out in the constitution, does that mean she should also be impeached for obstruction?
Here’s an interesting article from WaPo that they ran back in June. It notes that executive privilege is most honored in national security, foreign policy, and law enforcement (such as investigations into a VP using his office to ensure immunity for his son’s corruptions). It also alluded to the Supreme Court being the arbiter of what is executive privilege and what is not. If Nancy was serious about this, she’d be suing Trump over his use of executive privilege in not having his staff testify.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...2ce132-a8a9-11e9-8733-48c87235f396_story.html

But maybe the most interesting thing about this Op-Ed piece is that it was written by an editor for Bloomberg.com. Paid for by Michael Bloomberg. Now candidate for President of the US of A. Now, what are the chances that ole Mikey knew back in June that he was going to throw his hat in the race?
 
Please explain to us all the hypocrisy of Pelosi's position.

She's not sending the articles forward until she has some assurances that the Senate leadership will treat them with the seriousness they deserve.
Ok, if you want to play the stupid troll, I’ll oblige you and your sycophant Ninja. Pelosi chides the Senate for holding an “unfair trial” because they are simply going to rule on the evidence discovered in the House inquiry because she thinks that is “unfair” to the Democrat’s position. The hypocrisy is that the House trial was absolutely unfair to the President’s position and House Republican’s ability to present any opposition viewpoint. And when they were challenged on it, Schiff and Pelosi claimed it was a political process and not a legal one. But now she all of a sudden wants a “fair” proceeding? Only a complete moron would not acknowledge the hypocrisy of that position.

Now you tell me why she all of a sudden wants the Senate to call more witnesses. The House had all the latitude in the world to build as strong and biased of a case as it could. She should be thrilled that the Senate isn’t going to call rebuttal witnesses given the way the House investigation went. They could’ve called more witnesses instead of voting. So why did she call the vote? And why on Earth is she taking this stance now?
 
I never cease to be amazed at the righteous indignation about 'what the Constitution requires' from Blowhard supporters of Trump who have excused his Constitution-bashing antics from Day One.

The utter hypocrisy of this thread cannot be topped.

I reluctantly pulled the lever for Trump. In some ways the guy rubs me the wrong way. However, if you are going to say this, then please list for me and everyone here specifically what federal laws the man has broken and specifically in what areas of Article 2 of the Constitution he has violated?
I am busy raising my family and running my business, so I don't have time to research all that is bad with Trump. Apparently, you do. So, can you please state how exactly Trump has not met his duties per Article 2, how he has trampled on the Bill of Rights and what federal laws he has broken since he took office? Please, good sir and fellow Knight regale us with your facts and evidence of malfeasance of the President. It would help a brother out a lot. Thank you.
 
I reluctantly pulled the lever for Trump. In some ways the guy rubs me the wrong way. However, if you are going to say this, then please list for me and everyone here specifically what federal laws the man has broken and specifically in what areas of Article 2 of the Constitution he has violated?
I am busy raising my family and running my business, so I don't have time to research all that is bad with Trump. Apparently, you do. So, can you please state how exactly Trump has not met his duties per Article 2, how he has trampled on the Bill of Rights and what federal laws he has broken since he took office? Please, good sir and fellow Knight regale us with your facts and evidence of malfeasance of the President. It would help a brother out a lot. Thank you.
You are correct, Trump could actually go to the Supreme Court if it doesn’t go to the Senate and request the charges be dropped. They are unconstitutional because the charges are not high crimes or misdemeanors. I was listening to a constitutional lawyer from UF yesterday on a local Tampa station who said the Dems screwed themselves by not including any crimes in the articles.

I said from day one this was nothing more than a political stunt and they would not send it to the Senate.
 
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dolts buying their bullshit looking foolish
Only 3 insults/rage adjectives in this sentence.

6/10. Execution was OK but effort was lacking. I've rewritten it below so you can see what a proper 85 post is supposed to look like.

lol actually we’re laughing out assess off at her, her vile disgusting party, and wretched dolts like you who keep buying their slanderous bullshit propaganda and looking horrendously foolish in the end
 
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