Crook impregnates a playmate and then trades $1B gvmt contracts to fall guy who paid the hush money.
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It's funny, but @chemmie and @fried-chicken teamed up to explain exactly why I say I'm a Libertarian ...
Let me pull that out for you ...
So basically @fried-chicken basically undoes what @chemmie said and justifies why I do. @fried-chicken says I'm a Republican, but won't admit it, while @chemmie says I'm only a Rand disciple and nothing else. Just WTF is it? Which one?
There's always a Progressive slant to anything @fried-chicken says. Just like Conservatives like to put a slant in the opposite direction on Libertarians too. He's utterly missing the point that the Democratic party is not the Liberal party any more, so the other half isn't there either. The Democratic party is hell-bent on destroying the remaining 2 Amendments, not just #2, but also #1.
So yes, I'm a Libertarian, and my views will never be blindly aligned to either the Democratic or Republican parties.
That said, @Crazyhole nails it here ...
True American Libertarians -- and true, critically thinking Liberals (to their credit too) -- are ones who are not interested in blindly agreeing with each other and pushing an agenda that makes themselves look like hypocrites. We call each other out, debate if Gary Johnson or Ron Paul or Rand Paul is a 'real Libertarian,' and where they faulter in our differing views.
This is what Democratic and Republicans used to do. But now they are too much about "you're either with us or against us," trying to turn the other half of the country into felons for committing no crime, and refuse to admit their hypocrisy. We're still seeing Republicans lie about what W. did and Democrats lie about what Clinton and Obama did, lie to themselves first and foremost.
All the meanwhile, we Libertarians are saying, "Hey, can we stop throwing each other in jail? Especially just regular, everyday people who have committed no real crime?"
This is why the 3 of you look like partisan baffoons at times, while @Crazyhole nails it. True, real Libertarians, like Liberals, are interested in debating the actual issues, and the true nature of our problems -- not some 3rd grader logic that is literally total BS.
Let me pull that out for you ...
"always tell people you're Libertarian" -- @chemmie
"It's become necessary ... Libertarians don't typically follow the expected path of agreeing with all things left or right." -- @Crazyhole
"but they actually do fall right into a neat box that people expect: a box of Ayn Rand's childlike philosophies" -- @chemmie
"No, it's because they are always the devil's advocate on anything ... Support a dem and get half your platform done. Or admit you're only a libertarian so you can't be criticized about how awful your team is and you don't want to feel bad about it. The Republican party of sound financial decisions is gone buddy." -- @fried-chicken
"It's become necessary ... Libertarians don't typically follow the expected path of agreeing with all things left or right." -- @Crazyhole
"but they actually do fall right into a neat box that people expect: a box of Ayn Rand's childlike philosophies" -- @chemmie
"No, it's because they are always the devil's advocate on anything ... Support a dem and get half your platform done. Or admit you're only a libertarian so you can't be criticized about how awful your team is and you don't want to feel bad about it. The Republican party of sound financial decisions is gone buddy." -- @fried-chicken
So basically @fried-chicken basically undoes what @chemmie said and justifies why I do. @fried-chicken says I'm a Republican, but won't admit it, while @chemmie says I'm only a Rand disciple and nothing else. Just WTF is it? Which one?
There's always a Progressive slant to anything @fried-chicken says. Just like Conservatives like to put a slant in the opposite direction on Libertarians too. He's utterly missing the point that the Democratic party is not the Liberal party any more, so the other half isn't there either. The Democratic party is hell-bent on destroying the remaining 2 Amendments, not just #2, but also #1.
So yes, I'm a Libertarian, and my views will never be blindly aligned to either the Democratic or Republican parties.
That said, @Crazyhole nails it here ...
"The reason that libertarians will never be a political power is because they can't agree on anything." -- @Crazyhole
True American Libertarians -- and true, critically thinking Liberals (to their credit too) -- are ones who are not interested in blindly agreeing with each other and pushing an agenda that makes themselves look like hypocrites. We call each other out, debate if Gary Johnson or Ron Paul or Rand Paul is a 'real Libertarian,' and where they faulter in our differing views.
This is what Democratic and Republicans used to do. But now they are too much about "you're either with us or against us," trying to turn the other half of the country into felons for committing no crime, and refuse to admit their hypocrisy. We're still seeing Republicans lie about what W. did and Democrats lie about what Clinton and Obama did, lie to themselves first and foremost.
All the meanwhile, we Libertarians are saying, "Hey, can we stop throwing each other in jail? Especially just regular, everyday people who have committed no real crime?"
So, again, just WTF is it? Are we all just Rand disciples are Republicans in denial? You do realize the two are completely incompatible, correct?
This is why the 3 of you look like partisan baffoons at times, while @Crazyhole nails it. True, real Libertarians, like Liberals, are interested in debating the actual issues, and the true nature of our problems -- not some 3rd grader logic that is literally total BS.
You're a republican afraid to admit it because you're embarassed by the things your party now stand a for. It's easy to stay in the middle and say I don't like anything about either side when your posts are full of justifications of crimes and knocking MSM and calling people sheep and all the same posts you see from 85 and Bob who are fox news sheep.
You have no libertarian champion in Trump but you defend him at every turn. Its clear you claim to dislike both parties when convenient but we all know what you're doing. You're shirking the accountability that comes with supporting Donald Trump.
I call out all hypocrisy, both Obama and Trump ... and W. for that matter!
The only time you call out hypocrisy that I've seen lately is when you bring up Obama's to defend Trump's.
I certainly hope you didn't read that entire wall of literal BS that you quoted. I will say your point is spot on.
No, I'm criticizing both. Do you realize how hypocritical you look criticizing someone who calls out both Presidents, when you constantly praise Obama and totally slam Trump? I point out where both are wrong. Trump's administration is still young and he's got plenty of more time to add to his list.
I don't think you realize how many freedoms Obama took away.
@NinjaKnight just continually enjoys being an a-hole to anyone who has caught him in double-speak, avoiding any detail.
I'm willing to look past sex with porn stars for low taxes, booming economy, and some global dignity for the united states. There I said it. 
Never a Trump fan but so far has done great.
Never a Trump fan but so far has done great.
right there with you. wasnt a trump fan before the election, but would consider voting for him in the next election considering how well hes done so far.I'm willing to look past sex with porn stars for low taxes, booming economy, and some global dignity for the united states. There I said it.
Never a Trump fan but so far has done great.
Low taxes. sureI'm willing to look past sex with porn stars for low taxes, booming economy, and some global dignity for the united states. There I said it.
Never a Trump fan but so far has done great.
Booming economy? No
Global dignity. I can't even imagine someone thinking this
BTW It's not about the sex it's about the payment.
Underlined part blows my mind. I've been to half a dozen different countries since Trump has won the election and the universal reaction ranges from incredous outrage to outright pity for me.
Says the guy who has 85's schlong so far down his throat he "doesn't think 85 has a political bias"
Its kinda cute that you think this matters.
Odds on Trump telling Cohen to go fvck himself: 0%
Odds on trump telling cohen to keep his mouth shut and I'll pardon you: 100%
Odds of you supporting a president who uses pardon power to cover up his personal crimes?
0%
Odds of you extrapolating every minute detail that comes out as an indictment of trump?
