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Dallas police officer kills a man in his own home

Cop obviously shouldn’t be convicted of murder. Easiest not guilty verdict ever IMO, as long as what’s been reported is accurate.
I'm sorry but the cop who killed a woman in her home acted about as unprofessionally that night as it gets. No officer of the law should automatically get a 'get out of jail' card when they use their weapons in unprofessional and unsafe ways.

Whether we're talking about a police officer or a private citizen, using a deadly weapon carries with it serious consequences if you screw up.
 
I'm sorry but the cop who killed a woman in her home acted about as unprofessionally that night as it gets. No officer of the law should automatically get a 'get out of jail' card when they use their weapons in unprofessional and unsafe ways.

Whether we're talking about a police officer or a private citizen, using a deadly weapon carries with it serious consequences if you screw up.

Last I read, he wasnt responding to the call as if it was a “wellness check”, as some reported. I don’t recall the exact terminology, but he was responding to something like a “suspicious activity” call or something like that. He then showed up, saw multiple doors open in a house at around 2 AM, and according to the woman’s nephew, the woman grabbed a gun and pointed it at the cop. If this is true, the officer should not be charged with murder.
 
Last I read, he wasnt responding to the call as if it was a “wellness check”. Don’t recall the exact terminology but he was responding to something like a “suspicious activity” call or something like that. He then showed up, and according to the woman’s nephew, the woman grabbed a gun and pointed it at the cop. If this is true, the officer should not be charged with murder.

Did he identify himself as a police officer?

Did he give the woman (who was in her own home and saw a stranger with a gun and a flashlight outside her window) an opportunity to follow his instructions before firing his weapon?

I'm no cop but I pretty damn sure this cop was grossly unprofessional when it came to following proper procedures. If that's the case, there is no way you can simply shrug your shoulders and say "accidents happen,"
 
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Did he identify himself as a police officer?

Did he give the woman (who was in her own home and saw a stranger with a gun and a flashlight outside her window) an opportunity to follow his instructions before firing his weapon?

I'm no cop but I pretty damn sure this cop was grossly unprofessional when it came to following proper procedures. If that's the case, there is no way you can simply shrug your shoulders and say "accidents happen,"

Yeah, sounds like he may have made a mistake or two by not yelling “police” and whatnot, but that shouldn’t warrant a murder charge. Can’t have police unable to fire a weapon if someone they deem a threat to their lives is pointing a gun at them.
 
Can’t have police unable to fire a weapon if someone they deem a threat to their lives is pointing a gun at them.
I’m told that owning a gun to protect your home is a good thing. This woman apparent had a gun to protect her nephew from some shadowy dude outside their window late at night. I could have sworn this is the Gold Standard reason for an average citizen to own a gun. Yet you want to use it to declare the cop feared for his life?

This ‘feared for my life’ defense stuff is hard to track.
 
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I’m told that owning a gun to protect your home is a good thing. This woman apparent had a gun to protect her nephew from some shadowy dude outside their window late at night. I could have sworn this is the Gold Standard reason for an average citizen to own a gun. Yet you want to use it to declare the cop feared for his life?

This ‘feared for my life’ defense stuff is hard to track.

You certainly aren’t told that by me.
 
I never meant to imply you did.

But we do have a number of posters here who clearly get an adrenaline rush from having a gun around to 'protect their castle.' No horrible criminal is going to invade THEIR gated community, enter THEIR home, and catch THEM off-guard by golly!!!!

https://ucf.forums.rivals.com/threads/why-is-my-household-armed.78719/

Some strange posts in that thread, for sure, but the strangest is the one made by UCFWayne. He hopes officers who make mistakes should be killed in prison?
 
Some strange posts in that thread, for sure, but the strangest is the one made by UCFWayne. He hopes officers who make mistakes should be killed in prison?
i guess you missed the part about that cop shooting someone inside their own home during a wellness check...
 
Some strange posts in that thread, for sure, but the strangest is the one made by UCFWayne. He hopes officers who make mistakes should be killed in prison?
Don't mind, ol' Wayne, he's harmless. He's like that lovable, batsh*t crazy Old Uncle you and the family put up with during the Holidays.
 
i guess you missed the part about that cop shooting someone inside their own home during a wellness check...

It wasn’t a wellness check. Are you lying or just ignorant of the facts?

Also, you failed to mention that the person was pointing a gun at him.
 
It wasn’t a wellness check. Are you lying or just ignorant of the facts?
I'll speak for Wayne. Is WAS a wellness check but apparently that information wasn't relayed to the officers who went to the scene.

Also, you failed to mention that the person was pointing a gun at him.
We don't know for sure that the gun was in the hands of the home owner but we're told that home owners need guns for protection. How was she to know the shadowy guy with a gun and a flashlight prowling around her house in the early morning was a cop?
 
I'll speak for Wayne. Is WAS a wellness check but apparently that information wasn't relayed to the officers who went to the scene.

We don't know for sure that the gun was in the hands of the home owner but we're told that home owners need guns for protection. How was she to know the shadowy guy with a gun and a flashlight prowling around her house in the early morning was a cop?
be careful shookster, if you disagree with that individual hes likely to physically assault you.
 
be careful shookster, if you disagree with that individual hes likely to physically assault you.
He's got to FIND me first! :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

But if he does, I'm mentally ready for anything. Your constant verbal assaults have transformed me over time into somebody that nobody here wants to mess with. :sunglasses:
 
He's got to FIND me first! :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

But if he does, I'm mentally ready for anything. Your constant verbal assaults have transformed me over time into somebody that nobody here wants to mess with. :sunglasses:
lucky for you hes not good at actually finding people even though he swears he is right there....
 
I'll speak for Wayne. Is WAS a wellness check but apparently that information wasn't relayed to the officers who went to the scene.

We don't know for sure that the gun was in the hands of the home owner but we're told that home owners need guns for protection. How was she to know the shadowy guy with a gun and a flashlight prowling around her house in the early morning was a cop?

The information relayed to the officer wasn’t to do a wellness check, so he wasn’t doing a wellness check. Thus, when he fired at someone during his interaction, it’s incorrect to say he was doing a wellness check when he fired. It is simply untrue.

Right, we don’t know for sure. However, I read that the nephew said that the gun WAS in her hands. Was he lying or have the “facts” of the case changed?

And don’t listen to Wayne, as it looks as though he is not quite right. This is a guy who is hoping for the murder of a police officer. Shameful.
 
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I read that the nephew said that the gun WAS in her hands. Was he lying or have the “facts” of the case changed?
It doesn't matter if she WAS holding it, it's her gun and she was defending her home against a prowler. How the hell was she to know that it was a cop sneaking around?
 
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It doesn't matter if she WAS holding it, it's her gun and she was defending her home against a prowler. How the hell was she to know that it was a cop sneaking around?

I’m not saying she was supposed to know. Sometimes terrible things happen even when people are trying to act lawfully and trying to do good things.
 
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The information relayed to the officer wasn’t to do a wellness check, so he wasn’t doing a wellness check. Thus, when he fired at someone during his interaction, it’s incorrect to say he was doing a wellness check when he fired. It is simply untrue.

Right, we don’t know for sure. However, I read that the nephew said that the gun WAS in her hands. Was he lying or have the “facts” of the case changed?

And don’t listen to Wayne, as it looks as though he is mentally ill. This is a guy who is hoping for the murder of a police officer. Shameful.
regardless of whether the info was relayed to the officer or not, he never once informed anyone that the police were there.

the boy couldve been lying or the police coerced him into saying that. either way we dont typically take information from young children as fact.

do you dispute the multiple people on this board that saw your unhinged thread about meeting someone at a magic game and trying to fight them? that is shameful.
 
regardless of whether the info was relayed to the officer or not, he never once informed anyone that the police were there.

the boy couldve been lying or the police coerced him into saying that. either way we dont typically take information from young children as fact.

do you dispute the multiple people on this board that saw your unhinged thread about meeting someone at a magic game and trying to fight them? that is shameful.

First of all, I won’t even pretend to know what is correct policy in this case. Is it always correct for police to go around yelling that that they’re the police in these situations at 2 AM? Is it against the law for them to not do so? If they merely forget and something like this happens, should they then be convicted of the most serious crime imaginable? Obviously not.

As to your point about just choosing to IGNORE a key witness in this case, well, that just seems absurd. You’re just going to completely disregard what the person who was actually there said just so you can defend your insane position that the officer should be murdered?

And nice try at your last deflection technique, which has absolutely nothing to do with this discussion. You want us to ignore the facts of the case as they have been presented just so you can pray for the murder of a police officer. Truly disgusting.
 
First of all, I won’t even pretend to know what is correct policy in this case. Is it always correct for police to go around yelling that that they’re the police in these situations at 2 AM? Is it against the law for them to not do so? If they merely forget and something like this happens, should they then be convicted of the most serious crime imaginable? Obviously not.

As to your point about just choosing to IGNORE a key witness in this case, well, that just seems absurd. You’re just going to completely disregard what the person who was actually there said just so you can defend your insane position that the officer should be murdered?

And nice try at your last deflection technique, which has absolutely nothing to do with this discussion. You want us to ignore the facts of the case as they have been presented just so you can pray for the murder of a police officer. Truly disgusting.
i can tell you right now what the correct policy is. it is not killing the homeowner in their own house at night.

at what point do you choose to ignore that simple fact? he murdered the home owner plain and simple. he is likely going to get killed in prison on day one.
 
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