Fauci admits that hes been lying to us
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Well Fauci says 90% will have to be vaccinated to reach herd immunity, (which is utter bullshit) so it will actually take 300 million doses to get it down to a 1:1 rate. That'll probably take at least a year if not more, and would require a vaccine mandate that isnt going to happen.
People aren't thrilled about it, that's for sure. I can understand vaccinating guards and staff, but people on death row? Utter stupidity.
The approach has to be very targeted at high risk groups.......If the first priority remains long term care facilities and the elderly the vaccine will be very statistically significant to those targeted populations..........
Well the vaccine is 95% effective at preventing infection and decreases severity of symptoms. So those getting it will be at drastically reduced risk. Since we are prioritizing the high risk populations first, we will be saving countless lives with the vaccine. Even if herd immunity is never even achieved.
Now don't go using common sense. That will lead to you being labeled a racist because the elderly are, by a vast majority, white. Its why states are prioritizing minorities over the elderly. Sure, I could see making them priority #2 but not ahead of the highest risk category.
Of course we also have the issue of illegals being reticent of going to the doctor or getting the vaccine out of fear of deportation so they are one of the largest spreader demographics in the country. Not sure how you deal with that.
Yeah, but the interoffice memo said the vaccine won't stop you from transmitting it if you're exposed (yeah, science makes a lot of sense on this one). Kind of like how if I fart in your mouth, you can go blow it on someone else and they'll get the full scent of my butthole vapor.
Who’s ho-hum about the vaccine??? I really think you have trouble with reading comprehension. Just once maybe you will actually read ANY post and stay focused enough to respond to THAT post
So... you think this pandemic will end with the vaccine? How do you plan on getting people to take them??
1) Lock them up?
2) execute them?
3) Death Camps?
4) Fines? Yeah.,, that’s constitutional
5) Kill or threaten to kill their family
6) Riots
Mr. anti-lockdown is asking Mr. “Loves the unemployed and impoverished.”
Kind of like the Flu vaccine, but slightly better, right? That continues to stay under 50%, so I’ll give this one 65%.
So.., that’s your answer? Yeah.., that should workI knew "commonsense" would fly right over your head.
Ironically your common sense answer makes no common sense
Let's review....So.., that’s your answer? Yeah.., that should work
1) Deadly virus hits for which there is no cure.
2) 300,000 Americans die from it and counting.
3) In record time, vaccines are developed that are 95% effective.
4) Ucfmikes logic: We desperately need to jump-start the economy but--doggone it--65% of the country won't take it and refuse to wear masks. So I guess we'll have to wait a few years until the virus "burns itself out."
That’s not “MY LOGIC.” That’s a FACT! Do you ever pay attention to FACTS? Go ahead and argue with the facts and then call it “MY LOGIC.”
Dec. 7, 2020 -- Sixty percent of people questioned in November said they would “definitely or probably” take the coronavirus vaccine
probably?? Hmmm
What’s @DaShuckster brilliant solution to save America?
COMMON SENSE!!!! BAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Why didn’t HE run for President? That’s a brilliant idea!!! Now we just need a vaccine for uncommon sense. How long will THAT take?
Right guys?
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While an exact threshold is not known, Anthony Fauci, MD, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said recently that 75% to 85% of the population will need to get the vaccine to stop the spread.
Hmmm.. I didn’t even look that up until now. Didn’t I just stay that?
Looks like this virus is going to be with us for awhile.
What‘a @DaShuckster solution to
problem?
LOCKDOWN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY, BUT BACKDATE IT TO APRIL OF 2020 WITHOUT A BREAK
Why don’t we just tear down every predominantly eat-in restaurant for 2-3 years for starters? Riiiiight guys???
Hmmm.. I didn’t even look that up until now. Didn’t I just stay that?
Looks like this virus is going to be with us for awhile.
What‘a @DaShuckster solution to
problem?
LOCKDOWN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY, BUT BACKDATE IT TO APRIL OF 2020 WITHOUT A BREAK
Why don’t we just tear down every predominantly eat-in restaurant for 2-3 years for starters? Riiiiight guys???
Thats an impossible threshold to cross, and it doesn't even make sense quite honestly. If this virus is truly that transmissible, after a year we should have a heck of a lot more cases. Even if we have 120 million already, which is making a huge assumption, it shouldn't take 85% being vaccinated to stop this thing.
Why are you doubting the famous Dr Fraudci??
Well, the good news is according to Dr. @DaShuckster all we need is:
Why are you doubting the famous Dr Fraudci??
Well, the good news is according to Dr. @DaShuckster all we need is:
Common sense? Let's just go by the numbers that are reported. 20 million cases is basically 6% of our population. His 90% needing the vaccine gets us to 96% of people being exposed/vaccinated before we have it under control. That puts this on the level of smallpox, which by all accounts was far deadlier than covid. Maybe if the CFR was in the double digits I could see that, but this is also assuming that after a year only 6% of people have actually caught it. None of the math adds up to believing we need 90% of people to be vaccinated.
I've pointed it out before, but at our current rate it would take over 1,000 years to kill every living American. None of what fauci says meets the level of common sense
Our board's Trumpets need commonsense AND a better memory.
If this story is accurate (which is doubtful), it means Dr. Fauci downplayed the virus like POTUS Trump did.
Once again, deflecting back to Trump and arguing with the facts. Maybe you need to review a few of the articles and polls about this subject and not rely on MEMORY. Then let us all know how many of you Bidets don’t want to have COMMON SENSE and take the vaccine
That’s your response when you’re backed into a corner. Have you looked up the facts yet?
No.., only you can embarrass yourself with your addiction to Trump, obsession with the virus, and living your entire life on the WC thinking that all your comrades are your “friends”. Had a beer with @NinjaKnight lately?
@DaShuckster is just pissed off because he knows the vaccine isn’t going to end this like he thought and either are masks. He’s going to be on his own personal, self-induced, lockdown for years. Maybe change your avatar to a big vagina
I'd take the damn vaccine right now even if it put me into a coma for a month--just so I wouldn't have to wear a mask for a month.
I’ll probably be taking it relatively soon, but the point is, I HAVE A STRONG FEELING that we are going to still have to wear masks unfortunately. Simply, because it will not drop the numbers quickly enough.
Not enough people will take it.
Not enough people will take it.
I find it fascinating that Conservative media outlets have all jumped on characterizing Fauci's reported comment as a lie.
Where is the New York Times article? What does the author of the NYT piece have to say about it?
So THIS is what all the fuss is about?
Quoting from the article:
"In the pandemic’s early days, Dr. Fauci tended to cite the same 60 to 70 percent estimate that most experts did. About a month ago, he began saying “70, 75 percent” in television interviews. And last week, in an interview with CNBC News, he said “75, 80, 85 percent” and “75 to 80-plus percent.”
In a telephone interview the next day, Dr. Fauci acknowledged that he had slowly but deliberately been moving the goal posts. He is doing so, he said, partly based on new science, and partly on his gut feeling that the country is finally ready to hear what he really thinks.
Hard as it may be to hear, he said, he believes that it may take close to 90 percent immunity to bring the virus to a halt — almost as much as is needed to stop a measles outbreak."
This had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with 'downplaying the virus.' This was a question about what percent of our population needed to be vaccinated to bring the virus to a halt.
Good grief, all it took was for the Right Wing media to totally mischaracterize this NYT article to get our Usual Suspects' panties in a wad.
Yeah, that's bizarre. You'd think everybody around the country wasn't getting their vaccination shots at the same time.*
And you think its a rational position to believe it will take 90% of the population to get the virus under control? That would mean there would only be a 1% chance of a person being able to pass it to another person.
I'm thinking that Dr. Fauci knows a tad bit more about herd immunity than you or I do.
Somehow it doesn't seem like it. It seems more like he wants to sell more vaccines and is using his influence to do so. Like I said, is it reasonable to think that a 1% chance of passing on a virus is the realistic threshold to say its under control?
I'm going to go waaaaaay out on a limb here and say I highly doubt Dr. Fauci is a member of the board of one of these pharmaceutical companies that have developed vaccines.
I'm guessing he's 'pushing the vaccines' to prevent more people from catching the bug. It's kind of his job.
Crazy, you have no f*king clue what you're talking about.
It's WAY PAST TIME to give it up.
It's simple math. Yes I know what I'm talking about. When only 1 in 10 can carry it and only 1 in 10 can catch it, thats a 1% chance of transmission. If we needed that level of herd immunity then we should have seen a hell of a lot more cases after a year because this thing would be insanely infectious.
