I think most people would imply that. And some things like Castro can be black and white.
Honestly, I would say you should go to Cuba to see for yourself, but because you hate America so much, you would be treated well.
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Honestly, I would say you should go to Cuba to see for yourself, but because you hate America so much, you would be treated well.
Chemmie, can you help me understand the complex issues impacting Cuba not derived from the Castro regime?
Wow. I'd love for Chemmie to have a conversation with my in-laws explaining the good things Castro did.
Oh I'm sorry, you're right- it is sooooo complex. Castro built schools and gave people free medical procedures, and stuff.
He lives in his white hipster bubble complete with a morning read of DailyKos. He's a hilarious parody of a modern left wing lazy life type.
I too would love for him to drive to Tampa and explain this to the Cuban-American families who had to escape Castro. I'm sure his superior knowledge on this subject would correct their way of thinking.
I'd prefer he drive to Tampa and try crossing Tampa Bay on an inner tube. That experience should tell him all he needs to know.
...and you continue to put words into my mouth. Please show me anywhere that I said anything Castro did was "good". Please show me any comment I made that shows support or love for Castro.
Like I said earlier: you halfwits are unable to discuss American policy in the region and the affects it had on multiple countries, including Cuba, and how those countries compare to Cuba today. You can't do it. You lack cognition. So, you just keep making things up and saying "Castro bad."
If you'd like to discuss Batista or Pinochet or El Jefe, or how Cuba's economy compares to other countries that survived American and European imperialism in the region like Nicaragua or Haiti or even Jamaica, then feel free to dazzle me with your knowledge.
Or, you can just say I'm dumb and bury your heads in your ass, believing the U.S. never supported ruthless dictatorships just like Castro, and still don't.
Like I said earlier: you halfwits are unable to discuss American policy in the region and the affects it had on multiple countries, including Cuba, and how those countries compare to Cuba today. You can't do it. You lack cognition. So, you just keep making things up and saying "Castro bad."
If you'd like to discuss Batista or Pinochet or El Jefe, or how Cuba's economy compares to other countries that survived American and European imperialism in the region like Nicaragua or Haiti or even Jamaica, then feel free to dazzle me with your knowledge.
Or, you can just say I'm dumb and bury your heads in your ass, believing the U.S. never supported ruthless dictatorships just like Castro, and still don't.
You lose when you spout off with "American imperialism" in Nicaragua, Haiti, and Jamaica.
Yep. Like, France, Belgium, Germany, and much of the South Pacific. Why ever should we participate in foreign affairs?
and more dirty refugees fleeing to civilized nations to mess up their communities.
Of course 85 agrees with you.
Is the cool thing now to just be pretend that history never happened?
No one would debate that there were US troops on the ground. The fact that your implication that America is an evil Imperialist nation for any action beyond its borders without addressing context is the problem with your statement.
There are celebrations going on at grave sites by family members whose loved ones were executed by Castro . But preach on Chemmie
I mean its not like one of his own kids would flee Cuba and come to America and then proceed to tell how bad he is and how bad it is there or anything like that...
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The only reason why Fidel turned to Marxism was Che. Che was the real actor in gaining support from the USSR. Cuba was a satellite puppet of the USSR, the only way Fidel had a government with any clout...a symptom of Soviet imperial expansion. So, commenting on American imperialism in relation is pretty laughable. The only way Castro gained power was following Che's lead. It was a revolution based on genocide....go look at how many died simply speaking against the revolution at the hand of firing squads. What did Batista do by comparison? Get Rich via the mob? Removal of Batista, in hindsight, DESTROYED Cuba's infrastructure. Much like the removal of Hussain in Iraq and it's following parallels leading to a tyranical "government". Batista was the lesser evil by a longshot. Under Batista people could own property and leave the country...Castro and Che turned it into a prison-island, why...because some folks had more than others? The island was vibrant. Now it is dead on the inside. Some people getting out of poverty, is better than NO people getting out of poverty and living by the rule of a military regime.
"We are not Marxists!" -Castro
Addendum: Morello (extremely over-rated guitar player that throws things on his strings to make funny noises with intermittent pentatonic blues-riffs) is a socialist POS that has defended Castro tooth and nail in the mid-2000s around the time of Michael Moore's "Dude, Where's my Country" book release...because he is in the book...defending Castro.
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I don't disagree at all with what you're saying. That's what is funny. So many others in this thread jump on board any comment that THEY perceive as pro-Castro, even if it isn't even close.
My original comments were about Morrello's quote “there is ample reason why he is vilified in the US and yet remains a huge hero throughout the Third World."
This is what brings up Batista, Pinochet, etc... U.S. involvement in Central/South America and the islands caused many Third World nations to view Castro as a hero. Much like the USSR used Castro, we used many others in the same region the regular citizens end up being the victims from BOTH sides.
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Yeah, sucks some people lose, starve, and possibly die. Can't save them all...you can please some people some of the time, but not all. Wouldn't want to either...that would spell doom for the species from a supply/demand viewpoint and sustainability. Anyway...
What 3rd-world countries saw Castro as a hero? Cambodia? Katango? Vietnam? Venezuela? Columbia? Yeah...they are still or now close to being 3rd world...Especially Venezuela. OR, non-existent.
$122, round trip, on JetBlue. Flight to Havana, booked.
Looks like I will have visited my third communist country. How bout the rest of you guys? Ever actually step foot in one, or a former communist country? I've been to two of those, too.
Looks like I will have visited my third communist country. How bout the rest of you guys? Ever actually step foot in one, or a former communist country? I've been to two of those, too.
I've been to California a bunch of times. If you go to Cuba, pack toilet paper.
