Thanks. Wanted to do something relaxing today. Saw 1917 last night. It was good, but not great. Past wars were absolutely hell. Nice to see something about WW-1 for once. Mediocre ending as expected
The cinematography was the best part of the movie
How crippled will you be financially under Bernie's tax plan?
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The cinematography was the best part of the movie
I don't go to the movies to read. Why can't they make movies like Gone with the Wind any more?
The debt is my biggest source of anger right now. I'm also not terribly happy with the EPA and what they did to me but in the grand scheme of things it isnt that big of a deal.
lol at that website for claiming it will save me money.
so now you see a path for trumps reelection. if you had to vote today between the two, which way are you voting?
Are you honestly this stupid? Or just being a way too obvious troll?
Why would you automatically assume you won't save money? We all know the answer, you are a life long magat incapable of looking at other facts that contradict your worldview
Name a system of government that has lifted more people out of poverty?
i hope you are ready for the onslaught of names that you will now be called.
? I don't know what you are implying? That government safety nets don't help people out?
We are the most prosperous country in the world. We have many to waste on wars all around the world, but can't provide health care like every other civilized country in the world.
To everyone loling at the website. Care to review Bernies bill and point out where the math is wrong. I'm genuinely curious where you believe this site is inaccurate. All the tax info from the proposal is out there already.
Isn't Trump trying to make others kick in for security? I don't think any party wants to continue the wars in Iraq and that region. I'm all in for tweaks to the system to make it more affordable. I don't think the government is going to be effective and cost controls.
You're asking an awful lot of logic out of people like Wayne.
Just a reminder that ICE is asking for an extra Billion $ to meet Trump's deportation goals, which openly admitted racists like Wayne are ok with, but spending that money on healthcare? Obviously communist.
Go read the disclaimer from that joke of a website. They flat out state that their numbers can't be trusted and are full of shit....but sure enough, there are plenty of boot-lickers like @NinjaKnight to fall for their BS.
But the numbers are all in Bernies bill. They are directly imported to this site.
If you don't believe what the website tells you, the math is all there. The collective chud brain trust should be able to easily identify errors if they don't think it's right.
I just want one single poster on here to tell me where it's wrong.
That's not true at all. The numbers for both plans are available online you can do the math yourself but this site does it for you. It's not "full of shit" if you want to demonstrate why it's wrong feel free to try.
Aaand another inbred goes on the ignore list for spewing lies and baseless name calling.
Never once voted for Bernie, been a registered R or Libertarian my entire life. I'm simply smart enough to take news facts into account when creating my beliefs, obviously you aren't
I'll check with you in a bit to see if you've educated yourself and ceased with the baseless personal attacks. Good luck, we are counting on citizens to become more informed and stop repeating their mistakes.
Because no one believes his numbers. He wants to spend $97 Trillion in new spending, no one with a brain is going to believe that this socialist asshole is going to have someone actually come out ahead after assessing the crippling tax burden required to pay for $97 Trillion
They aren't his numbers, they are just regular numbers. The math is done for you on the page. You will never be charged more than what that page says if his bill is signed into law.
The problem is that his plan assumes growth that comes from a free market system when every respected economist will tell you that GDP will drop under his tax and spending plans. It's like trump saying he was going to pay off the debt in 4 years because we'd have 5-6% growth, it just isn't realistic.
Sanders will destroy the economy and impose the heaviest tax burden in US history, but we’ll be fine. Don’t worry!
Bread lines are good!
These are the same people that deny the laffer curve is a legitimate economic law.
So basically you're saying that his bill would save you money but it would be impossible to sustain?
Because the numbers in the bill saving most people money on healthcare don't seem to be disputed.
https://thehill.com/blogs/congress-...tudies-agree-medicare-for-all-saves-money?amp
22 studies: Bernie's plan would save us money
Inbred idiots @UCFWayne and @UCFKnight85 : hurr Durr we would literally turn into communists and all die.
Really hard to figure out who to trust here. Really a toss up.
22 studies: Bernie's plan would save us money
Inbred idiots @UCFWayne and @UCFKnight85 : hurr Durr we would literally turn into communists and all die.
Really hard to figure out who to trust here. Really a toss up.
Bernie would cripple the stock market with his tax plan. If you take an additional 630 billion dollars out of businesses they become less attractive as an investment, plus raising the tax rate up to 52% on investment earnings creates a disproportionate amount of risk to an investment that is already based on risk/reward. Losing more than half of my gains would dissuade a lot of people from buying stocks.
And also decrease the funds raised when a company IPOs since the risk reward sucks. Nothing is free. The markets are dynamic. You can't just tax more and expect the same business activity. There is a concept of velocity of the dollar when it decreases the activity the economy will begin to slow. Which won't offset by increased taxes.
FWIW, money velocity finally started to tick back up in 2017 after 10 years of steady decline. That means more lower and middle class people have more money to spend. Trumps growth plan is working. Not as fast as he predicted, but its happening
Let me guess. You heard about a 52% tax on investment earnings from a chud news site?
You cannot argue with people who refuse to become educated on a topic, Jesus Christ.
Just because you won't be in Bernie's highest bracket doesn't mean there won't massive impacts across the board. You're not increasing taxes on a group and not have any negative impact.
Of course not. I expect it will be slightly harder for the ultra wealthy to continue to gain wealth at such an accelerating rate.
The money they would spend on servants and an extra 40 feet on their yachts will be spent on preschool teachers and low income health clinics.
It will be a great time to be a teacher and a not so great time to be a yacht maker.
Yeah... penalize those productive people! Who will pay the tax when they say I'm not taking on financial risk for slackers to take? Turn into Venezuela quickly which the ruling class wants anyway. They do fine in that environment.
It's way more than just penalizing productive people. Under Bernie's plan, we lose 3.3 million jobs, and gdp drops 5%. Less productive people are the first to lose their jobs so we'll have more people making no money at all.
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