Illegal Alien kills NFL Player in DUI Accident
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POTUS weighs in on this preventable death.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...s-lb-edwin-jackson-killed-driver-illegally-us
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...s-lb-edwin-jackson-killed-driver-illegally-us
Nothing like Politicizing death!!!
He should have started with the second tweet.
He should have started with the second tweet.
gaslighting America on ethnic lines. He never wants to highlight the positive immigrant stories
Just like Obama never wanted to highlight positive police stories. And many before the two of them. Let's not act like Trump is the first one to ever highlight an event that fits his agenda.
even several Republican Presidential candidates(Rubio, Kacish) talked about the issue of racial profiling by Police. It's easy to just say it does not exist when living in your own bubble(myself included). Trump claims to be the 'law and order' President yet he or his sycophants attack the FBI everyday.
What he has done with the immigration debate has blurred the lines. Having ICE agents raid busses in Florida asking any Brown person for papers is not what I want to see this country become. The GOP will find out soon enough though, don't think they realize how much they have pissed off a legal community of 40 million plus all in the most populated States. I am right of center on most non social issues & I doubt I'm the only one that doesn't like the direction Trump has taken the GOP.
You mean blue states? Imagine that. Obama deported more "brown people" than anyone before him. Where was the faux rage then?
there are countless examples of things that are happening right now that are very different than under Obama(or W) when it comes to immigration and how ICE is operating
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there are some cases ive seen where they have deported some people that have been here a very long time and involved in their communities. i dont know why they are targeting those people but they are still here illegally. if theyve been here 30+ years how did they not try to become citizens?
And not one comment from you about this illegal felon criminal scumbag who killed an innocent person.
Color me not shocked.
As someone who is very close to law enforcement and has seen many very erroneous media accounts, I always take the media accounts of how any police action is conducted with a good amount of skepticism. Not to say they are all very badly flawed, nor to say that there aren't very badly flawed police actions, but from what I've seen and heard the media is wrong far more often than the police are being horrible. That's just my experiences and everyone has their own.
There's really no point arguing illegal immigration or profiling anymore on a message board like this because people are set in stone to the exclusion of rationality in either direction.
And there are countless examples of things being done the right way now that weren't under Obama and W. Trump isn't the evil racist grand wizard you all make him out to be. Enough of the faux raging.
since everyone didn’t bow down to your opinion and say how perfect it was ? ❄️
here is one account I remember hearing by someone who has no reason to lie about it. Senator Rubio talked about his Son's Little League Football Coach in Miami being constantly pulled over and profiled. I don't necessarily agree with every Obama word or action on that matter but there is the other extreme that wants to pretend it doesn't exist.
bc this board has turned into Breitbart. I'm not a Liberal.
I’m not a lawyer, but this gave some good answers for those here as DACA recipients
https://www.quora.com/Why-dont-people-covered-by-DACA-become-citizens
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The real truth is that in the vast majority of traffic stops, the police officer does not know who is in the driver's seat nor what ethnicity they are. They are profiling, but not necessarily on the human component of the car. Mostly it's behavior or vehicle condition. A great many drug violations are found while stopping someone for something as simple as a tag light or cracked windshield.
Sometimes it's a vehicle that doesn't fit in with the others in the neighborhood or one that looks like it is driving strangely given the time and place. Or someone rolls through a stop sign while making a right turn. Or even when some overly concerned citizen from Maitland decides to report you as a suspicious person (DWB/WWB) and the police are required to respond even though they know there isn't going to be anything found. They'll still stop out, identify, and make sure everything is on the up-and-up.
Most times it is no big deal. Sometimes it's not and the person has a copy of high times open on the back seat, the ashtray is full of ash, there's a grinder on the floorboard, the car smells like burnt weed, there's baggies with white powder visible, and a 2-year-old is sitting in the backseat without a car seat. Or the officer is getting drunk from the fumes before the window is even open on the guy who has been drinking since 11 waiting for a rocket to go up.
Many times people don't understand what they're doing wrong or its accepted in a community but still illegal and dangerous. Many officers are accused of racism or profiling for simply engaging in consensual encounters where they are trying to keep people safe (like, stop walking down the middle of a dark street. You're going to get yourself killed). Sometimes it's wildly dangerous behavior, like the idiots in South Apopka/Pine Hills (and I'm sure elsewhere but I know it occurs there) that think firing their guns in the air is an appropriate method to celebratthe Fourth of July. But you roll up and you're instantly racist.
It's a tough spot but the media (especially National) is covering it heavily anti-police and rarely pro-police. Likewise with politicians. The stats Obama presented on so many occasions were horribly wrong. It's been tragic how badly misrepresented it's been in the media. Which is not to say that there aren't problems. Just that they aren't nearly as widespread as people who have money to make or political careers to benefit are making it out to be.
Also, let's be honest, Rubio is a political whore who cares more about his advancement than anything else in the world. You can't really think that he's going to be concerned with accuracy and context when he can politicize something for his own gain.
Just to be accurate, Dreamers who have not been convicted of a crime have the same legal pathway to citizenship as any other non-US citizen. Exit the US and follow the legal channels.
Lol. I get it. You hate Trump. That doesn't mean everything he does is awful. I never thought I'd see the day when the President/DOJ enforcing the laws that were passed by Congress would turn them into evil heartless racists.
It's totally insane...but props to Dems to convince morons that enforcing federal laws are now considered racists. (All passed by PREVIOUS Congresses and signed into law by Presidents NOT named Trump).
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Oh? You mean leave everything you have, go back to somewhere you have nothing and come back in 10 years? Yes, totally feasible.
I didn’t make a statement to the feasible, just to refute the statement that they have no legal avenue.
South Florida Cubans actually skew red, will be interesting to see if this effects that at all.
Trump wants to more than double DACA and give them amnesty. Why is this going to turn Cubans blue?
You're assuming that every "Dreamer" is someone who has been here since they were 3 years old and only know America. Many are like that. There are also thousands, maybe a million or more, that came here knowingly illegally between the ages of 15-17 years old. They would qualify because they're minors, although the typical spin is that they're "kids". They came here from a country that they had spent their entire life in.
Why should they get to jump ahead of 15-17 year olds from other countries? Because we want to apply this catch-all feel good phrase to them? Are there "Dreamers" from other parts of the world too?
Because it's not their choice to come over here. My husband was brought here when he was 13. He's now 27. He doesn't know England anymore. This is his home. He went to school here. Got a job here. Got successful here. And Paid taxes here. I can guarantee you he's a harder worker than half the people he works with and part of that is because he's had to go through so many hoops and work twice as hard just to get where he is.
Sorry but even if you're 15/16 - if your parents pick up and move you to another country - that's not your choice. Hell - he didn't even know that they planned to overstay their Visa, he was under the assumption they were doing it legally and I was there to witness when he found out it was all a lie and he was basically illegal. Kicking him out of this country after being here for years, already struggling would have ruined him and I'm sure it would ruin a lot of other too considering he's not as fragile as most people you encounter nowadays.
But that's not what I said- there are documented examples of kids who are 16 or 17 coming on THEIR OWN across the border illegally. Yet, they would be caught up in this "Dreamer/DACA" deal where 1.8M people, including them, would be granted amnesty and put on a path to legalization.
PS- your husband's family surely came here legally. That is not what's in question here.
I’m sorry for his struggles but there are many very valid reasons that immigration is controlled. There are always going to be people willing to violate the rules and more that will try to work the loopholes. What shouldn’t happen is that unintentional paths be created.
There could be one here. Say your husband was granted immediate citizenship because of a temporary political mentality. Now he can use his status to petition for his parents as close relatives. They then get rewarded for violating the rules and breaking the law.
Is it unfair to your husband that his parents broke the law, of course. But it’s not America’s problem that they did that and dragged him into it. The American citizenry don’t owe him anything. There is no responsibility for America to do anything for him and it is wrong to demonize American citizens who simply want to discourage future attempts at this before they grant him citizenship.
Woooooooooooow. Your mentality is the exact opposite of what I think of America as.
They did come here legally but with the intent to stay here illegally.
Regardless, what you are describing is the exception, not the rule. The vast majority are much more like my husband.
It's not like everyone is just granted access, even on DACA. As someone who was their next to him while he applied, it's not as easy as signing a paper and you magically get it.
if some people snuck their kids into disney world, are we really mad at disney for kicking the whole family out?
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