ISIS beheads 21 Egyptian Christians. Egypt Air Force retaliates
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You know exactly who would be deployed? Dang...you must be pretty high up in the Brass.
PS. How come you were one of the many that failed the mandatory federal requirement to sign up for Selective Service when you turned 18?
Why are you being so retarded about this?
It doesn't matter what HE wants or doesn't want; his brothers joined a volunteer army on their own accord, fully knowing that they very well may be deployed in danger areas or outright combat operations. Shit, most people who go into the military end up nowhere near a combat zone at ANY time during their service.
Guys in battle are there because they WANTED to be on the front lines. If they wanted to assure they don't see combat they easily could have- there are THOUSANDS of armed forces jobs that don't require a weapon.
You've read too many shitt ron Paul books to where you now really believe that our soldiers are just poor little helpleess people that the big meanie government uses in their plot to rule the world. That's utter bullshit. Our front line units are full of warriors who train and prepare for battle and welcome it when they are asked to go.
If you need direction on how to donate to Wounded Warrior or veteran support groups let me know.
Since you're so concerned.
Since you're so concerned.
85, are you trying to say that because we have a volunteer Army, we as citizens should not be concerned whether or not they are deployed, because it is what they signed up for? Not being a smart ass..just wanted some clarification....
Ounce of prevention > pound of cure.
The lack of a cogent rebuttal proves my point, Copernicus.
What the jingo jingo jango philistines don't realize is if
all this warrin about were so noble & just these brave men & women
wouldn't come home & off themselves.
But hey, nothing to worry about, deck's stacked against me.
No one is for peace anymore. War's here to stay. Democrat/Republican doesn't
matter war it is. We'll always find an enemy & they'll be promoted in the
fear porn state controlled media (TV Hollywood etc), cycle will continue - who
cares about people dying there's money to be made bitches.
It's a good business model: convince marginally intelligent
people in boogeymen (find replace boogeyman here with a lot things) &
exploit. Any dissent? Well they hate America. Seems legit.
Side note, Wounded Warrior doesn't fit my criteria for
giving since they're only 3/4 stars on charity navigator, not a church I attend
& not UCF-related.
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The lack of a cogent rebuttal proves my point, Copernicus.
What the jingo jingo jango philistines don't realize is if
all this warrin about were so noble & just these brave men & women
wouldn't come home & off themselves.
But hey, nothing to worry about, deck's stacked against me.
No one is for peace anymore. War's here to stay. Democrat/Republican doesn't
matter war it is. We'll always find an enemy & they'll be promoted in the
fear porn state controlled media (TV Hollywood etc), cycle will continue - who
cares about people dying there's money to be made bitches.
It's a good business model: convince marginally intelligent
people in boogeymen (find replace boogeyman here with a lot things) &
exploit. Any dissent? Well they hate America. Seems legit.
Side note, Wounded Warrior doesn't fit my criteria for
giving since they're only 3/4 stars on charity navigator, not a church I attend
& not UCF-related.
This post was edited on 2/19 10:53 AM by 1ofTheseKnights
I will help with this one.
There is a job called Warrior. It's duties include f'king stuff up and potentially getting blown up in the process. These people signed up for that job. Not the guys who signed up to drive trucks or fix helicopters but the guys who signed up for positions whose main tool is a gun.
This job has existed since the beginning of time. They have gone by the name Knight, Samurai, Ninja, Gladiator, etc. Their job has not changed, only the tools that they use.
Do you buy a television and then don't want to watch it because it might stop working? No, you use the tools you have to exact the behavior you need. Do you use this tool recklessly? Hopefully not.
But in the book of the world, there are countless passages where the Warrior was called to do his bidding whether he relished it or not and he answers the call sometimes in victory and equally so in defeat. While we mourn the vanquished we stand resolute knowing that they were ready to fulfill their job when called upon.
That is the difference between a leader and someone in charge. A leader knows that his decisions will result in the loss of sons and daughters and fathers and brothers, but he makes those decisions knowing they need to be made. A guy in charge stands before the world and announces a jobs program for out of work psychopaths.
No, of course not.
What you described is what people like marino would love you to believe, but it's not true and it's bullshit.
All that I'm saying is that we cannot, and should not, base foreign policy on the basis that our front line soldiers MAY be hurt or killed in combat. If that were the case, we would have never taken up the cause of a single war, ever.
What I'm saying is that the soldiers fighting in combat zones are tehre because they wanted to be there. There are no secrets or deceptions in the military- if you become an enlisted or officer in the Rangers, Marine Corps, SEALs, 101st, etc you know that your job is to fight. Period.
Thank God everyone didn't feel the way some of you do when they bombed Pearl Harbor , Hitler decide to wipe out an entire race if possible etc . Of course I wouldn't expect anything less from a sangria drinking message board poster . And lol at you knowing only Clay would go and that no one else on this board has or hasn't served . You have overdosed on dumbass Marino
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Hitler & Pearl Harbor /=/ ISIS
WWII super duper easy justified war.
Only Americans getting killed by ISIS are the ones dumb enough to go play over in Crapistani countries.
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WWII super duper easy justified war.
Only Americans getting killed by ISIS are the ones dumb enough to go play over in Crapistani countries.
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Right-wingers, who supposedly love and support our troops more than those anti-'Murican liberals, think the troops are expendable, and if they don't want to die they shouldn't have signed up.
Left-wingers, who supposedly hate the troops and want them to die, think the troops shouldn't be put into harms way for petty American interests that only benefit large corporations, and should instead be defending America here on American soil and not dying.
Who really supports the troops?
Left-wingers, who supposedly hate the troops and want them to die, think the troops shouldn't be put into harms way for petty American interests that only benefit large corporations, and should instead be defending America here on American soil and not dying.
Who really supports the troops?
I'm still trying to understand why we shouldn't have any involvement simply b/c US "interests" aren't served by getting involved. This artificial division is ridiculous.
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Sounds xenophobic to me...
Left-wingers, who supposedly love and support people of all race, nationality and creed more than
those racist conservatives, think people in other countries are expendable, and if
they don't want to die they should have been born in the US.
Right-wingers,
who supposedly hate all non white people and want them to die, think countries with the means to help them should help them, and should not worry about archaic borders and the nationality of a person.
Who really supports the world?
Nother layer of the onion: aren't there/haven't there been way worse genocide kind of shit in Africa compared to big ol ISIS?
Difference is the impact on Israel is less to null so who gives a shit? "We" only go after Israel's enemies for those who let the MSM etc do the thinking for them can't see it
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Difference is the impact on Israel is less to null so who gives a shit? "We" only go after Israel's enemies for those who let the MSM etc do the thinking for them can't see it
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That's not what I said Nicolaus - what I'm saying is the moral high ground to "defeat" ISIS is bullshit considering we've passed on other warlords just fine.
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Radical Islam has already declared war on us. Whether we do or do not fight back today, we will have to later. This is going to get much worse before it gets better.
So you're saying that we should only go to war if our enemies bombing and invading our nations? Basically just waiting for them to get here? That's a very dangerous way to go about things. By the way, 9/11 was on our soil, but the enemies are overseas. Do we just tell them we'll be waiting if they decide to come back??
Chemmie would have waited for the Nazis to conquer Europe and were invading NY and Washington before he did anything. It's always better to fight a war on your soil instead of your enemy's.
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If this administration supported Israel, Israel could take care of Isis in six months and they would do it without the political mess that would happen here. But because it would be Israel there would be a world wide stink.
Yea, I'm sure Jewish troops raging through Syria and Iraq, killing Shiia and Sunnis alike, wouldn't cause a problem at all. Nope, the other Arab factions would just turn and applause those Jews who are rolling their tanks over Muslim lands, just because the US "finally" supported Israel to go conquer ISIS.
I've never seen someone talk so much about the Middle East when understanding so little.
The US supporting Israel in this matter wouldn't matter one f*cking bit. It is irrelevant.
I can agree with you to a point. Yes soldiers know their duty, but I do think you are stretching it to say that they are there because they want to be there. They are there because duty obliges them to be there. Also, I believe that we as US citizens owe to our soldiers every effort we can muster to prevent our troops from getting caught up in a no-win situation. The trick to doing that is to hold our elected officials accountable.
Preventing our front-line soldiers from going into situations where they have confusing rules of engagement, not enough manpower, poor allied support, logistics and so forth....this goes more to help our troops than wounded warrior project ever will...and so does volunteering at your local VA. The best way to support our troops is to keep them out of harms way in historically proven useless conflicts. I know they signed up for the job, but most retired servicemen/women I know are not near as itching to go off to war like many of our chicken-hawk politicians.
Can't remember - u serve N20?
Always grinded my gears people can so flippantly put people's lives on the line because of TV
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Always grinded my gears people can so flippantly put people's lives on the line because of TV
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No doubt...and that's something US learned from Vietnam (US Forces were added at a too slow faucet drip pace, plus they were stuck with way too many restrictive rules of engagement that wouldn't allow US Forces to "fight back" in all situations) to Gulf War 1....where the first shot wasn't fired on the ground till over 500,000 personnel were in place so that US could win quickly with overwhelming force which really saved countless US lives.
On a different scale, it wasn't till US Congress fought for and got a Military Surge in Iraq under Obama that finally helped secure military gains in multiple areas.
One always hopes that the best battles plans are in place to minimize any loss of US Military life.
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You mean one that leaves out parts of real history?? Like American exceptional ism, or the rampant racism that was the background for progressive movement? The real purpose behind the forming of planned parenthood?
Nah goodknight just a coincidence to an elitist white women popped planned parenthoods in black areas...
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We will be sending troops to take care of ISIS and the US won't be alone in the effort. It'll happen sooner than y'all realize. It takes time to gather intelligence and build a strategy. So I'm pretty sure the call has already been greenlit for some time now.
AP and others are reporting that ISIS kidnapped over 70 Syrian Christians, including many women and children.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/dozens-of-christians-abducted-by-islamic-militants-in-syria/ar-BBhUuu4
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/dozens-of-christians-abducted-by-islamic-militants-in-syria/ar-BBhUuu4
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Sometimes other nations ask for our help because they simply need it and no one steps up to the plate.
Yeah, I'm sure the Yazidis would have faired just fine without external help*
...where's that compassionate part of you that you are so fond of making everyone aware of? Because it involves life or death it suddenly means we shouldn't put our own (that sign-up because they want to fight) in harm's way for a simple ethical cause? Think of how many conflicts would have exterminated full groups of people if our country didn't make some real difficult decisions.
Yeah, let's let our corporations all fail because of their external interests. I'm sure that will benefit everyone.* Right?
While we're at it, let's all just live in harmony, take off our cloths and dispose of our personal property also...
