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ISIS beheads 21 Egyptian Christians. Egypt Air Force retaliates

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World has gone mad.

ISIS forces in Libya kidnapped and beheaded 21 Egyptian Christians.

Egypt's Air Force responded with attacks on ISIS targets in Libya.

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im getting to the point that I think we need to remind these a$sholes what a nuke looks like...fight over your irradiated soil if you want...
 
Originally posted by Dmarino110:

im getting to the point that I think we need to remind these a$sholes what a nuke looks like...fight over your irradiated soil if you want...
Tactical nukes were developed for strategic attacks/targets...but yes, someone has to take the lead on the War against ISIS but it can't be won by just conventional air attacks.

As for the former CIA Director said...if US wants to beat ISIS, there needs to be 100,000 Ground Troops...something Obama obviously doesn't want to do...and ISIS knows that...which has help ISIS expand into so many other countries.
 
Extremely sad to see this kinda crap. They are really starting to piss off the countries that have been sitting on the fence.
 
Originally posted by Knight_Light:


Originally posted by Dmarino110:

im getting to the point that I think we need to remind these a$sholes what a nuke looks like...fight over your irradiated soil if you want...
Tactical nukes were developed for strategic attacks/targets...but yes, someone has to take the lead on the War against ISIS but it can't be won by just conventional air attacks.

As for the former CIA Director said...if US wants to beat ISIS, there needs to be 100,000 Ground Troops...something Obama obviously doesn't want to do...and ISIS knows that...which has help ISIS expand into so many other countries.
Its not just Obama. Most US citizens don't want to put boots on the ground. We are tired of policing actions. We are tired of boys coming home missing limbs. We are tired of boys coming home in boxes. and what is the point in going over there and spending American lives to wipe out ISIS and then another extremist group popping up again?
 
Originally posted by Dmarino110:
Originally posted by Knight_Light:


Originally posted by Dmarino110:

im getting to the point that I think we need to remind these a$sholes what a nuke looks like...fight over your irradiated soil if you want...
Tactical nukes were developed for strategic attacks/targets...but yes, someone has to take the lead on the War against ISIS but it can't be won by just conventional air attacks.

As for the former CIA Director said...if US wants to beat ISIS, there needs to be 100,000 Ground Troops...something Obama obviously doesn't want to do...and ISIS knows that...which has help ISIS expand into so many other countries.
Its not just Obama. Most US citizens don't want to put boots on the ground. We are tired of policing actions. We are tired of boys coming home missing limbs. We are tired of boys coming home in boxes. and what is the point in going over there and spending American lives to wipe out ISIS and then another extremist group popping up again?
Those that openly declare War on the US...sure...as these terrorist have already spread throughout the Middle East...making inroads in Europe...and many experts have said cells are in the US...you just can't let a swarm like this grow unabashed.

ISIS is a borderless organization...unlike in conventional wars were US mostly fought other states/countries within certain borders.

You have to adapt or die...and best way to stop a swarm is to target it immediately...because every day it grows and grows and grows.
 
Originally posted by Knight_Light:
Originally posted by Dmarino110:
Originally posted by Knight_Light:
Originally posted by Dmarino110:

im getting to the point that I think we need to remind these a$sholes what a nuke looks like...fight over your irradiated soil if you want...
Tactical nukes were developed for strategic attacks/targets...but yes, someone has to take the lead on the War against ISIS but it can't be won by just conventional air attacks.

As for the former CIA Director said...if US wants to beat ISIS, there needs to be 100,000 Ground Troops...something Obama obviously doesn't want to do...and ISIS knows that...which has help ISIS expand into so many other countries.
Its not just Obama. Most US citizens don't want to put boots on the ground. We are tired of policing actions. We are tired of boys coming home missing limbs. We are tired of boys coming home in boxes. and what is the point in going over there and spending American lives to wipe out ISIS and then another extremist group popping up again?
Those that openly declare War on the US...sure...as these terrorist have already spread throughout the Middle East...making inroads in Europe...and many experts have said cells are in the US...you just can't let a swarm like this grow unabashed.

ISIS is a borderless organization...unlike in conventional wars were US mostly fought other states/countries within certain borders.

You have to adapt or die...and best way to stop a swarm is to target it immediately...because every day it grows and grows and grows.
You should enlist then.
 
Starting to think Obama agreed to no troops in Syria and additional military hardware/assistance for the Saudis in exchange for them dumping the oil market and making Putin howl ....
 
Originally posted by HuffyCane:
Starting to think Obama agreed to no troops in Syria and additional military hardware/assistance for the Saudis in exchange for them dumping the oil market and making Putin howl ....
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Originally posted by UCFWayne:

Originally posted by Knight_Light:
Originally posted by Dmarino110:
Originally posted by Knight_Light:
Originally posted by Dmarino110:

im getting to the point that I think we need to remind these a$sholes what a nuke looks like...fight over your irradiated soil if you want...
Tactical nukes were developed for strategic attacks/targets...but yes, someone has to take the lead on the War against ISIS but it can't be won by just conventional air attacks.

As for the former CIA Director said...if US wants to beat ISIS, there needs to be 100,000 Ground Troops...something Obama obviously doesn't want to do...and ISIS knows that...which has help ISIS expand into so many other countries.
Its not just Obama. Most US citizens don't want to put boots on the ground. We are tired of policing actions. We are tired of boys coming home missing limbs. We are tired of boys coming home in boxes. and what is the point in going over there and spending American lives to wipe out ISIS and then another extremist group popping up again?
Those that openly declare War on the US...sure...as these terrorist have already spread throughout the Middle East...making inroads in Europe...and many experts have said cells are in the US...you just can't let a swarm like this grow unabashed.

ISIS is a borderless organization...unlike in conventional wars were US mostly fought other states/countries within certain borders.

You have to adapt or die...and best way to stop a swarm is to target it immediately...because every day it grows and grows and grows.
You should enlist then.
Shhh. If we play our cards right we get to see KL and Marino attempt to debate.
 
Originally posted by Dmarino110:
Originally posted by Knight_Light:


Originally posted by Dmarino110:

im getting to the point that I think we need to remind these a$sholes what a nuke looks like...fight over your irradiated soil if you want...
Tactical nukes were developed for strategic attacks/targets...but yes, someone has to take the lead on the War against ISIS but it can't be won by just conventional air attacks.

As for the former CIA Director said...if US wants to beat ISIS, there needs to be 100,000 Ground Troops...something Obama obviously doesn't want to do...and ISIS knows that...which has help ISIS expand into so many other countries.
Its not just Obama. Most US citizens don't want to put boots on the ground. We are tired of policing actions. We are tired of boys coming home missing limbs. We are tired of boys coming home in boxes. and what is the point in going over there and spending American lives to wipe out ISIS and then another extremist group popping up again?
Like the Nazis popping back up again? If we had left a residual force over there ISIS wouldn't exist.
 
This "coalition" we built needs to quickly come to the realization that it's gone to take way, way more than a few F16 sorties to get rid of this plague. It's going to take a full ground assault and it's going to require controlling large parts of these lands that ISIS is using to raise fighters and train them.

THe control 40% of Syria, a third of Iraq, and now they're apparently establishing their own region in Libya following the vast wasteland of ungoverned territory there.

And reports show that they've taking over more and more of Anbar Province, roughly 50 miles from Baghdad.

The US could and should participate in a short ground war under these strict conditions:

- US troops fight alongside Saudi, UAE, Egyptian, Jordanian, Iraqi, French, German, and UK troops
- US troops participate only in an attack, defeat, and advance mode
- US troops leave combat immediately after defeating main ISIS defenses and leave controlling the area/rooting out other ISIS members to the Middle East coalition armies

The US military could tear these assholes to shreds in a matter of days, we just wouldn't want to govern the place after.
 
Originally posted by Bob the Knight:
Originally posted by Dmarino110:
Originally posted by Knight_Light:


Originally posted by Dmarino110:

im getting to the point that I think we need to remind these a$sholes what a nuke looks like...fight over your irradiated soil if you want...
Tactical nukes were developed for strategic attacks/targets...but yes, someone has to take the lead on the War against ISIS but it can't be won by just conventional air attacks.

As for the former CIA Director said...if US wants to beat ISIS, there needs to be 100,000 Ground Troops...something Obama obviously doesn't want to do...and ISIS knows that...which has help ISIS expand into so many other countries.
Its not just Obama. Most US citizens don't want to put boots on the ground. We are tired of policing actions. We are tired of boys coming home missing limbs. We are tired of boys coming home in boxes. and what is the point in going over there and spending American lives to wipe out ISIS and then another extremist group popping up again?
Like the Nazis popping back up again? If we had left a residual force over there ISIS wouldn't exist.

You just compared these clowns to Nazis.
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Originally posted by chemmie:

Originally posted by Bob the Knight:
Originally posted by Dmarino110:
Originally posted by Knight_Light:


Originally posted by Dmarino110:

im getting to the point that I think we need to remind these a$sholes what a nuke looks like...fight over your irradiated soil if you want...
Tactical nukes were developed for strategic attacks/targets...but yes, someone has to take the lead on the War against ISIS but it can't be won by just conventional air attacks.

As for the former CIA Director said...if US wants to beat ISIS, there needs to be 100,000 Ground Troops...something Obama obviously doesn't want to do...and ISIS knows that...which has help ISIS expand into so many other countries.
Its not just Obama. Most US citizens don't want to put boots on the ground. We are tired of policing actions. We are tired of boys coming home missing limbs. We are tired of boys coming home in boxes. and what is the point in going over there and spending American lives to wipe out ISIS and then another extremist group popping up again?
Like the Nazis popping back up again? If we had left a residual force over there ISIS wouldn't exist.

You just compared these clowns to Nazis.
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Thanks for proving my point. They are nothing like the Nazis , they are the "JV squad", yet have flourished after being defeated because of the power vacuum left.
 
Thought we already half assed world policemanned Libya & Egypt - "Arab Spring" let's do it some more. Put a Gaddafi remnant in charge & call it a day all those towelheads know are brutal dictators. Sadaam / Mummar or ISIS? Whatever no matter who it is we'll still bomb em - read it here they'll be some new shit after "we get ISIS"
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So bob, is the jv squad such an important threat to u or your family that you would go over there yourself? If you had a kid old enough, would you want him to go?

Hell, who here thinks this is so important that if the pres was gonna put boots on the ground, u would volunteer to go. Clay is the only one here that would go. Maybe DDT, but 85 isn't going, k-l isn't going, I sure as sh1^ ain't going. Why? Because those camel fu@&ers are always going to fu@& camels and go nuts about their religion. Wipe out one group and another will be right there.

So for all you saying we only need 100k how about you go, otherwise stfu
This post was edited on 2/16 11:17 PM by Dmarino110
 
Originally posted by UCFKnight85:
This "coalition" we built needs to quickly come to the realization that it's gone to take way, way more than a few F16 sorties to get rid of this plague. It's going to take a full ground assault and it's going to require controlling large parts of these lands that ISIS is using to raise fighters and train them.

THe control 40% of Syria, a third of Iraq, and now they're apparently establishing their own region in Libya following the vast wasteland of ungoverned territory there.

And reports show that they've taking over more and more of Anbar Province, roughly 50 miles from Baghdad.

The US could and should participate in a short ground war under these strict conditions:

- US troops fight alongside Saudi, UAE, Egyptian, Jordanian, Iraqi, French, German, and UK troops
- US troops participate only in an attack, defeat, and advance mode
- US troops leave combat immediately after defeating main ISIS defenses and leave controlling the area/rooting out other ISIS members to the Middle East coalition armies

The US military could tear these assholes to shreds in a matter of days, we just wouldn't want to govern the place after.
Desert Storm Redux. It would probably work just as well as the original, however one would care to interpret that.
 
Originally posted by Dmarino110:

So for all you saying we only need 100k how about you go, otherwise stfu
This post was edited on 2/16 11:17 PM by Dmarino110
Why are you so upset that some have repeated the recommendation of the Former CIA Director's comments on CBS News over the last few weeks (well before the murder of Mueller or the 21 beheadings this past weekend)?
 
Originally posted by Knight_Light:


Originally posted by Dmarino110:

So for all you saying we only need 100k how about you go, otherwise stfu

This post was edited on 2/16 11:17 PM by Dmarino110
Why are you so upset that some have repeated the recommendation of the Former CIA Director's comments on CBS News over the last few weeks (well before the murder of Mueller or the 21 beheadings this past weekend)?
Because hes not going over there either
 
Marino is correct here. All this "yeah I just saw American Sniper - let's go **** those towelheads up" you nor your immediate family etc isn't going. Neither are any of the empty suit hawk politician.
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Originally posted by Dmarino110:
Originally posted by Knight_Light:


Originally posted by Dmarino110:

So for all you saying we only need 100k how about you go, otherwise stfu

This post was edited on 2/16 11:17 PM by Dmarino110
Why are you so upset that some have repeated the recommendation of the Former CIA Director's comments on CBS News over the last few weeks (well before the murder of Mueller or the 21 beheadings this past weekend)?
Because hes not going over there either
Ok...but thats the same for any and all so-called experts on CBS, NBC, CNN, ABC, FOX, Bloomberg, etc...that have all made similar comments.

Even in Obama's latest push back to Congress is asking for possible ground forces as an option...but I don't think Obama or Sec of State or Joint Chief of Staffs or any of his military advisors would be on the front lines either.
 
so K_L, what you are saying, is because a talking head says we need to send, 100k men over there on the ground, you don't care if any of them die. you don't care if any of them lose limbs. you don't care what kind of grief their family goes through when these kids go over there and die in an effort that does not benefit the normal American.

I learned to argue from the K_L school of posting. don't ever argue the post, just take it to the next level of stupid...
This post was edited on 2/17 8:24 AM by Dmarino110
 
Marino apparently has no idea that we have a volunteer military.
 
Originally posted by UCFKnight85:
Marino apparently has no idea that we have a volunteer military.
so because they volunteer, we should care less about them? oh its fine he had both legs and an arm blown off in Iraq, he volunteered...
 
Originally posted by Dmarino110:
Originally posted by UCFKnight85:
Marino apparently has no idea that we have a volunteer military.
so because they volunteer, we should care less about them? oh its fine he had both legs and an arm blown off in Iraq, he volunteered...
I eat 15 big macs a day and weigh 600 lbs. It's so unfair!! No one cares about me.

Get over yourself. As a group our veterans get as much support from the public as any other group.
 
Originally posted by 1ofTheseKnights:
Marino is correct here. All this "yeah I just saw American Sniper - let's go fuk those towelheads up" you nor your immediate family etc isn't going. Neither are any of the empty suit hawk politician.
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Both of my brothers in the Army had two tours in Iraq.
 
Originally posted by Dmarino110:

so K_L, what you are saying, is because a talking head says we need to send, 100k men over there on the ground, you don't care if any of them die. you don't care if any of them lose limbs. you don't care what kind of grief their family goes through when these kids go over there and die in an effort that does not benefit the normal American.
Never said that...and you are soooo far out there its almost laughable to continue any discussion with your train of thought (if there is one).

One thing reading about history teaches you is that yes, even in the military, you can learn from past mistakes.

Ex: Go back and review the mistakes of the Vietnam build-up and what changed during the Gulf War I build-up and why it was so successful.
 
I try to say i hate nobody. But ISIS is a new level of evil. I am bias, since they took a friend of mine. I'd say nuke'm but good people would pass as well.

But, I am also in a hard spot. I do want the US to help lead action to wipe ISIS out, but I also want 0 Americans to die. But with inaction, should we wait for them to attack us? If ISIS could, without a doubt they would strike the United States.

Another big issue is Syria, in Syria the good guys are .. ?????? The Free Syrian Army, that do not have Al Qaeda ties?
But that would be like 15 to 20 people..

The big groups are Hezbollah, and Assad which are Iran's Puppets, the FSA which is Al Qaeda, and the 3rd is ISIS.

I think the only good people in Syria are the Kurds. We need to help protect the Kurds, as they are our ground troops, and need to be rewarded with a free country.

Big Problem is 2k to 4,000 of the ISIS are European citizens, and can come into the US probably without double checking. We need to double check those coming in and out of Turkey, or Greece, or all countries they can make it to Syria from.
 
Originally posted by Bob the Knight:

Originally posted by 1ofTheseKnights:
Marino is correct here. All this "yeah I just saw American Sniper - let's go fuk those towelheads up" you nor your immediate family etc isn't going. Neither are any of the empty suit hawk politician.

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Both of my brothers in the Army had two tours in Iraq.
And do you want them doing another tour vs ISIS?
 
Originally posted by Dmarino110:
Originally posted by Bob the Knight:

Originally posted by 1ofTheseKnights:
Marino is correct here. All this "yeah I just saw American Sniper - let's go fuk those towelheads up" you nor your immediate family etc isn't going. Neither are any of the empty suit hawk politician.

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Both of my brothers in the Army had two tours in Iraq.
And do you want them doing another tour vs ISIS?
It's their job, they knew what they were signing up for and reenlisted after they did their first tour. Our military is volunteer.
 
Egypt Leader just called for "UN to take action against ISIS. Since the US led Coalition is not doing enough?"

I more and more like this guy!! He said it is not Islam to kill, this guy is the moderate America should stand behind, yet Obama stood with his opponent.. Morsi, the Terrorist....
 
Mach, that is exactly how combatants fight to win. There are varying degrees of collateral damage that are acceptable depending upon the civilization and technology employed, but war itself is an atrocity and should be ended as efficiently and quickly as possible. The issue is not that the public can't stomach a war, it's that the American public can't stand having troops over there getting blown up by terrorists with no visible progress being made. Fix the rules of engagement and get rid of the embedded reporters that are going to trash the soldiers no matter what they do because they believe all war is evil and the American public will get behind it. Then you can leave bases over there like in Japan, Germany, and the ROK to stabilize the area because people won't attack you for fear of swift retribution. Not what didn't happen after Benghazi. Not drone strikes that create more terrorists than they kill.

But here's the thing, if the terrorists are just going to come from the next country over, then you have to determine where to draw the lines.
 
Originally posted by mach3ucf:
But, I am also in a hard spot. I do want the US to help lead action to wipe ISIS out, but I also want 0 Americans to die. But with inaction, should we wait for them to attack us? If ISIS could, without a doubt they would strike the United States.
This is the problem with most people in America. We want something to happen, but we don't want anyone getting hurt who we might see in the grocery store.

The reality is that war is a dirty, nasty business that doesn't look anything like what it looks like on television or in the movies. When a soldier goes over there in battle, he is forever changed by what he sees, does and experiences over there whether it be for the good or for the bad.

But there comes a time when we stop talking and giving groups time outs and start kicking ass and letting them know they can't do what they are doing. And yes, some US soldiers are going to die, get maimed and suffer psychological trauma. Some civilians are going to get killed needlessly and some children are going to die. This isn't Call of Duty.

Did I enlist when I was 18? no, I considered it and didn't. I have many friends who did and more power to them.
 
Originally posted by Bob the Knight:
Originally posted by Dmarino110:
Originally posted by Bob the Knight:

Originally posted by 1ofTheseKnights:
Marino is correct here. All this "yeah I just saw American Sniper - let's go fuk those towelheads up" you nor your immediate family etc isn't going. Neither are any of the empty suit hawk politician.

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Both of my brothers in the Army had two tours in Iraq.
And do you want them doing another tour vs ISIS?
It's their job, they knew what they were signing up for and reenlisted after they did their first tour. Our military is volunteer.
That'd be a better way to go about - BTK as someone with actual skin in the game can vote if your family member is worth potentially dying to "defeat ISIS" ... whatever the empty suits determine that means.

I ought to be for war so maybe they'll spend less time "fixing the economy" & "keeping us safe" w the Patriot Act etc.
 
The big key is this, in Call of Duty you get shot, you either die, you can re-spawn, in real war, when you die, you gave the last full measure of devotion.
 
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