It’s official…CU to B12
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Suppose we can take 3 more teams, who are we taking? Oregon, Washington and who? I think we go Arizona
I say we abandon oregon and washington. They think they are too good. Lets watch them rot into irrelevancy
PAC soon to be AAC 2.0 as they backfill with G5s. Next to fall ACC......... sometime. Poor American, about to lose SMU, and maybe tho it's a big stretch, Tulane, depending how many leave the PAC.
Word here in KC is that Arizona will not risk Oregon and Washington jumping to the Big 12 along with a Utah or Stanford, bringing the Big 12 to 16 teams, and leaving them in the ditch. You have to think that it's the wet ass hour at Oregon and Washington. Either they get a Big 10 invite or they don't - we will know pretty quick. Yormark will go straight after Oregon first, if he knows they are not getting a last hour big 10 offer. Washington will follow. Then you have Utah and Arizona jumping to be the 16th team. It will be Arizona who gets the offer. Then we wait for the destruction of the ACC down the road.
I think this exactly. Even if the thought process of UW and OR are to ride with the Big12 GOR until 2031 and hope then to go Big10, that’s a host/parasite complementary team up…and who knows, that makes the Big12 really viable (and in my mind way better top to bottom than the Big10) that it could be a nice match made in heaven, could be a great fit.
And definitely Arizona over Utah. They can be like usf and be the team relegated after being promoted.
The irony is that the Utah AD came from USF &
He made a few tweets mocking the Big 12 talk.
We should do BYU a favor and tell them to F off and enjoy the Mountain West/Pac leftovers
Lol ya Harlan, go figure He’s trying to sink another school. Crazy how these guys get promoted at all.
First off, I would like to know what "wet ass hour" means? Is that like swamp ass?
Market, recruiting territory, history, all sports, potential, fan base engagement etc.
I think we need to go by what Yomarck said during media days....he wants teams who want to be here.
UT clearly does not, nor do they have as much of a bball presence as AZ, which Yo cherishes (as the future revenue driver in NCAA sports).
David Hale, one of the most in-tune reporters with the happenings inside the ACC, is saying that the conference is now looking at WVU/SMU/Oregon/Washington. Looks like it’s a proxy battle between our two conferences.
because we already have the Utah market with BYU. Arizona, Oregon and Washington and done
Oregon and UW are both on opposite sides of ACC country on an island. I don't see that happening.
I don’t know what’s crazy or believable at this point, man. I think Arizona State and Stanford would be good traveling partners for them, but people keep telling me they wouldn’t bring enough value even though the math I’ve done says otherwise. I guess we’ll find out…
Whoever David Hale is, he seems worse than that @GSwaim guy on X is at predicting…ACC is currently at 14 teams right? By all accounts they can’t take 4 extra teams, nor would they get OrWa, nor would they stoop to SMU…and WVU would take a step down to ACC? Also, this would all open their GOR from my understanding, and there are at least 7 schools trying to find a way out currently. No one or any media is talking about ACC expansion man, only ACC members trying to leave. Sorry, I love Pitt and that’s one of the ACC teams I hope find their way to the Big12 when it does inevitably break up.
David Hale sounds like he needs to get more in tune.
My understanding with the ACC GOR was that even expansion would void it, which would open the door for the ones who want to leave to bolt. So the whole conference was sorta just stuck until someone figured out how to break it.
Arizona’s Basketball Program and geography. feels like a perfect fit
Oregon and Washington would be the outliers that Yormack would accept ..Utah doesn’t really fit and I haven’t heard that BYU wants to help them
Waking point (out in front of a company or platoon) in Vietnam. Usually the first killed, but warns the others that they are about to be in the shit.
Bingo. you get Oregon, you get anyone else you want. Question is, do you take Arizona or Utah as your 3rd team? We already have some Utah market with BYU, but Utah has been better than Arizona in recent years.
I think you go for Arizona to capture the whole state.
This is exactly the thinking. Oregon and Washington would be looking for the exits right away (2031), but in the meantime, the BIG 12 is much stronger with the two brands. The problem for UO and UW is that as the ACC GOR gets closer to expiration, they get pushed down the list of desirable properties. In the valuations of the BIG 10 and SEC - North Carolina; Clemson; Florida St. Virginia are stronger candidates. This very well could leave Oregon and Washington as proud members of the Big 12 conference...for good.
What happens to Miami will be interesting. Will the SEC take three schools in one state, over the objections of Florida and Florida st.? If no, would the Big 10 take them? If not, then UCF will have the absolute joy of beating the crap out of them every autumn.
Unscheduled meetings of the Regents of these PAC schools will take place in the next few days. Grab a bag of popcorn, get comfortable, and watch the show.
Can't wait to go to Boulder and see UCF play. There's going to be a lot of us doing that one.
You take OU and UW in the Big 12, period.
Big 10 and SEC won't take Miami. FSU is the desirable program to join the big 10 or SEC, though I have to imagine the big 10 is more likely for them.
I have a lot of respect for Hale and he’s pretty credible as an ESPN guy, but you make fair points. I think that’s the assumption that a lot of people are making re: the ACC’s Grant of Rights, but I don’t think anyone actually knows for certain. There’s a 2013 copy on the internet but nothing from the updated 2016 version.
And hey, I wouldn’t mind if the Big 12 got Oregon, Washington, and Arizona State (I actually think they’d be a better haul than Zona), and we also join at some point. I’m content with where we’re at… worst case scenario for us is being in the third-best conference, whether that’s the ACC or Big 12 when it’s all said and done. I’ll take it.
If you have not been, Boulder is a blast. September, October and early November are fantastic months to visit. Beautiful.
My desired picks would be the 4 Pac12 adds and Louisville, Miami and Pitt/VT/NC State/GT whichever of them would be banging.
I feel like Pitt belongs in the Big10 culturally and academically imho.
If UO and Washington are available, you grab them. Both bring strong football to the conference and Oregon bribgs alot of that Nike $$.
I like adding both zonas. Zona brings more bball but asu is another large school in a great area.
I like adding both zonas. Zona brings more bball but asu is another large school in a great area.
We’ve been getting blocked by the Big Ten for nearly 100 years now. I think our chances came and went after Penn State invited, unfortunately. Although we’re an academic fit, we just don’t bring anything that they don’t already have.
I hope that the ACC stays intact because most Yinzers prefer to identify with the northwest and east coast rather than the Midwest. If it goes under and we end up with the Big 12, then I hope we bring Miami/VT/NCST/GT with us.
Hearing so much interest in Oregon and Washington but...but....why..
At first glance, of course, it sounds amazing. And yeah I get the appeal. It's a no brainer and you basically automatically have to accept if you're Yormark but on the flip side, they don't want to go to the Big12, they don't want to go anywhere other than the B10. They are essentially another drama queen Texas and Oklahoma and USC/UCLA which led to the downfall of the their conferences (well not B12).
Instead what we have now is a tight group. The "Hateful 8" and the grateful newcomers who are hungry and happy to join the Big12. Colorado's in the same boat, just happy to be in. Hell Arizona and Arizona St dont sound too bad either. But Oregon? Adding Oregon adds a drama queen. A toxic team that no doubt would try to do some version of revenue sharing because the B12 and it's teams are so beneath them.
Again, if it happen cool, I wouldn't kick a gifthorse in the mouth. But if it doesn't happen even better. Oregon, Phil Knight, and their fans are toxic and don't want any part of the B12. They will jump at the first sight of the B10 and would (eventually) cause realignment mayhem again and possibly even prematurely before the B12 contract ends which would not be ideal. They either need to get humbled real quick or die in their sinking ship with the rest of the high and mighty Pac12.
At first glance, of course, it sounds amazing. And yeah I get the appeal. It's a no brainer and you basically automatically have to accept if you're Yormark but on the flip side, they don't want to go to the Big12, they don't want to go anywhere other than the B10. They are essentially another drama queen Texas and Oklahoma and USC/UCLA which led to the downfall of the their conferences (well not B12).
Instead what we have now is a tight group. The "Hateful 8" and the grateful newcomers who are hungry and happy to join the Big12. Colorado's in the same boat, just happy to be in. Hell Arizona and Arizona St dont sound too bad either. But Oregon? Adding Oregon adds a drama queen. A toxic team that no doubt would try to do some version of revenue sharing because the B12 and it's teams are so beneath them.
Again, if it happen cool, I wouldn't kick a gifthorse in the mouth. But if it doesn't happen even better. Oregon, Phil Knight, and their fans are toxic and don't want any part of the B12. They will jump at the first sight of the B10 and would (eventually) cause realignment mayhem again and possibly even prematurely before the B12 contract ends which would not be ideal. They either need to get humbled real quick or die in their sinking ship with the rest of the high and mighty Pac12.
You make a good point. Take them if they fall in our lap but we hold the power now
What has been amazing to me through the last couple days is UCF being on the inside looking out as the dominoes begin to fall. UCF is finally in a really good place. Good times.
The University's stadium in Boulder, CO. is a beautiful setting for a college football game.
Regardless of CU's strength when UCF eventually plays them on the road, it will be a challenging game. Jet lag, a different time zone, and the mile-high altitude are all challenges the Knights will have to deal with. Plus, Buffs' fans have a reputation similar to Miami's. I once attended a game there where AN ENTIRE SECTION of CU fans were removed from the stadium for unruly behavior in the third quarter of a game.
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