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Jose Ibarra found guilty on all charges related to Laken Riley’s murder

Sorry for using facts to destroy another one of your arguments.



 
Sorry for using facts to destroy another one of your arguments.



The fact is that HE killed her. The fact is that HE was in this country illegally. Your boy Bill Clinton agrees.

Hope that helps.

Why do you like murderers so much?
 
I mean it makes more sense than just deporting brown ppl.

I don't give a shit who commits the crimes, lets come up with a logical way to reduce crime, not this feelings based approached.
I never said a thing about their color. Deport all illegal immigrants.

If a few of them happen to be the ones that commit crimes or murder someone, all the better.

This one could have been prevented. Case closed. Now we have to pay for his life imprisonment costs. Even better 🙄
 
I never said a thing about their color. Deport all illegal immigrants.

If a few of them happen to be the ones that commit crimes or murder someone, all the better.

This one could have been prevented. Case closed. Now we have to pay for his life imprisonment costs. Even better 🙄
Sure, it absolutely could have been prevented. All deaths could theoretically be prevented, it comes down to the cost.

Deporting all illegal immigrants absolutely is not the most cost effective way to reduce deaths. There are significantly more cost efficient ways to do it.
 
I'm so proud of you for sharing your thoughts and feelings on this matter. Everyone's view points should be included, no matter how close to 1930's Germany they appear. Even wannabe Edge Lords like yourself are welcome here, so very edgy and provocative.

Two months from today and it's LIBERATION DAY!!!!!!!!!

How are you gonna celebrate?
 
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Sorry for using facts to destroy another one of your arguments.



can you use facts to show us which group commits the highest rate of murder?

thx 🥰
 
It’s all going to cost money, but in the end it will be worthwhile.
If you are ok with saving fewer lives, then sure totally "worth it"

Or you can devote the resources towards something that will save more lives, but I understand then you won't be able to rally easily manipulated and slightly racists morons like those cheering on these policies.
 
can you use facts to show us which group commits the highest rate of murder?

thx 🥰
Data admittedly is a bit old


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He bashed her head in with a rock, because she fought off him from raping her. Sounds like some of you condone this type of monster behavior. Disgusting.

This could have been prevented and now, not only have we paid for this, but we will be paying for this for the rest of our lives. She’s not the only one dead from these illegal immigrant gang members


“But, but, but, it’s only a few cases?”


“We can devote the resources towards something that will save more lives.”

Yeah? What the **** can we use the money on that’s better?

I pay a lot of taxes and that’s where I want my money to go.
 
ODamn I hate being right all the time
Too bad you have no point bro in regards to this discussion.

Let me give you some data that you can understand.

The murder rate, violent crime rate, and non-violent crime rate of undocumented “illegal” immigrants that will never make it to the United States under the new administration or haven’t yet committed a crime and will be deported is:

Wait for it…………,

It’s coming………,

Hold on…….,

It will be 0.000000000000
The money spent on prosecuting those crimes, etc. will be:
Wait for it…………,

It’s coming………,

Hold on…….,

It will be $0.000000000

You are welcome!
 
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Too bad you have no point bro in regards to this discussion.

Let me give you some data that you can understand.

The murder rate, violent crime rate, and non-violent crime rate of undocumented “illegal” immigrants that will never make it to the United States under the new administration or haven’t yet committed a crime and will be deported is:

Wait for it…………,

It’s coming………,

Hold on…….,

It will be 0.000000000000
The money spent on prosecuting those crimes, etc. will be:
Wait for it…………,

It’s coming………,

Hold on…….,

It will be $0.000000000

You are welcome!
Deporting 1 million people yearly could cost nearly $90 billion. Apprehending immigrants, detaining them, court procedures and transporting them out of the country makes mass deportation a complicated and costly endeavor. Indeed, the estimated cost of deporting a single undocumented immigrant is estimated to run as high as $13,000.



It's a stupid thing to focus on, there are far more cost efficient ways to increase safety of Americans. But it galvanizes the uneducated and gets them out to vote which is what Trump cares about.
 
Deporting 1 million people yearly could cost nearly $90 billion. Apprehending immigrants, detaining them, court procedures and transporting them out of the country makes mass deportation a complicated and costly endeavor. Indeed, the estimated cost of deporting a single undocumented immigrant is estimated to run as high as $13,000.



It's a stupid thing to focus on, there are far more cost efficient ways to increase safety of Americans. But it galvanizes the uneducated and gets them out to vote which is what Trump cares about.
So… should we spend the money on rehabilitation or mental health now for “illegal” immigrants?” You still haven’t mentioned any “cost effective measures to increase safety of Americans.”

BTW, there are a lot more costs of not deporting them that you are omitting.

Additionally, if your party vetted them properly to begin with and dealt with criminals properly, we would not be spending nearly the amount that you stated.

90 Billion is nothing for this country.
 
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So… should we spend the money on rehabilitation or mental health now for “illegal” immigrants?” You still haven’t mentioned any “cost effective measures to increase safety of Americans.”

BTW, there are a lot more costs of not deporting them that you are omitting.

Additionally, if your party vetted them properly to begin with and dealt with criminals properly, we would not be spending nearly the amount that you stated.
It’s going to cost a lot of money to clean up the border disaster comatose Jose and mamala effed up.

100%.
 
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It’s going to cost a lot of money to clean up the border disaster comatose Jose and mamala effed up.

100%.
And now the Dems are still arguing about doing nothing. Now it’s because of costs.

You can’t make this stuff up.

They never learn. They STILL want to do nothing and have no plan.
 
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And now the Dems are still arguing about doing nothing. Now it’s because of costs.

You can’t make this stuff up.

They never learn. They STILL want to do nothing and have no plan.
Same idiots who said there wasn’t a problem in the first place. 🤦‍♂️🙄🤦‍♂️🙄🤦‍♂️🙄🤦‍♂️🙄
 
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And now the Dems are still arguing about doing nothing. Now it’s because of costs.

You can’t make this stuff up.

They never learn. They STILL want to do nothing and have no plan.
We had a plan, it was purposefully sabotaged by Trump.

If you want to actually provide a meaningful increase in longevity then please take a look at the leading causes of mortality and allocate funds to things that are actually killing Americans. You will find "murder by illegal immigrants" isn't on that list. But lack of healthcare is.

Of course providing healthcare for Americans is obviously communism so we can't do that, it's better to get rid of brown people.
 
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Sorry for using facts to destroy another one of your arguments.




Unfortunately, both these studies and surveys you're using to make your point are incorrect because they don't take into the fact that currently the migrant population is approximately three percent of the total population of the United States. They need to account for that and properly use the statistics to make conclusions which it appears neither does.

Anyone can skew statistics to try to make a point.
 
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Unfortunately, both these studies and surveys you're using to make your point are incorrect because they don't take into the fact that currently the migrant population is approximately three percent of the total population of the United States. They need to account for that and properly use the statistics to make conclusions which it appears neither does.

Anyone can skew statistics to try to make a point.
No illegal immigrants = no crimes from illegal immigrants.

The crime problem with U.S. citizens is a different argument that we are dealing with.

That doesn’t even touch ALL the other issues with illegal immigrants.
 
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Unfortunately, both these studies and surveys you're using to make your point are incorrect because they don't take into the fact that currently the migrant population is approximately three percent of the total population of the United States. They need to account for that and properly use the statistics to make conclusions which it appears neither does.

Anyone can skew statistics to try to make a point.
Yeah. They account for that. It’s a rate statistic.
 
Yeah. They account for that. It’s a rate statistic.
Your data is incomplete and only measured the state of Texas. Take Arizona for example:

Undocumented immigrants are at least 142% more likely to be convicted of a crime than other Arizonans. They also tend to commit more serious crimes and serve 10.5% longer sentences, more likely to be classified as dangerous, and 45% more likely to be gang members than U.S. citizens. Yet, there are several reasons that these numbers are likely to underestimate the share of crime committed by undocumented immigrants. There are dramatic differences between in the criminal histories of convicts who are U.S. citizens and undocumented immigrants.
 
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