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Nearly All Mass Shooters Since 1966 Have Had 4 Things in Common

im glad you were finally able to find the study on your own. well at least an article disparaging it. even though obama paid for it. so you have some numbers to work with. im still trying to figure out why you cant use google.

because you are lazy, the number of people killed per year by guns is 36k, most are suicides, but ill let you keep those numbers.

pretend i went to usf. which number is higher 36k or 500k?

Nobody has denied any of this, but you are too dumb to follow along with the conversation, and then just want to condescend to other people. It is hilarious that you call me lazy when you were the one who wouldn't even back up your own claims. Did they not teach irony at your non USF school? Anyway, I'm done, this conversation is stupid because you and crazyhole simply arent capable of actually having a productive conversation.
 
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Im still trying to figure out why the dems keep focusing on those scary rifles. is it because they are black and thats why you dont like them?


either way, does anyone here know how many people are killed with those scary black rifles each year? i understand it can be very hard for some people to use google.
Probably less than 1000
 
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Nobody has denied any of this, but you are too dumb to follow along with the conversation, and then just want to condescend to other people. It is hilarious that you call me lazy when you were the one who wouldn't even back up your own claims. Did they not teach irony at your non USF school? Anyway, I'm done, this conversation is stupid because you and crazyhole simply arent capable of actually having a productive conversation.

And you are? You continue arguing to a pre determined position that has already been refuted. You just move the goalposts every time to restart a new talking point.
 
Anyway, I'm done, this conversation is stupid because you and crazyhole simply arent capable of actually having a productive conversation.

For a self proclaimed intelligent person it sure took you a long ass time to figure out that trying to debate with a self admitted racist like wayne or an actual inbred who thinks the earth is 6,000 years old like crazy is a waste of time.
 
And you are? You continue arguing to a pre determined position that has already been refuted. You just move the goalposts every time to restart a new talking point.

Nobody moved the goalposts on anything. You guys have a tendency to lean on that as an excuse to avoid having the conversation. I referred to the exam same study Wayne did, but somehow that equates to moving the goalposts? That is just dumb.
 
For a self proclaimed intelligent person it sure took you a long ass time to figure out that trying to debate with a self admitted racist like wayne or an actual inbred who thinks the earth is 6,000 years old like crazy is a waste of time.

Excuse me? I will post to who I want when I want, if you don't like it don't read it. But I don't give a damn about your opinion of me either, you are just a simplistic a poster as those clowns.
 
Nobody moved the goalposts on anything. You guys have a tendency to lean on that as an excuse to avoid having the conversation. I referred to the exam same study Wayne did, but somehow that equates to moving the goalposts? That is just dumb.

You moved the goalposts when you tried changing the topic from the number of self defense instances to 'well, they wouldn't need to do that if there were fewer guns'. Now you are changing the topic once again because twice in this thread you've found yourself on the wrong side of the facts.
 
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You moved the goalposts when you tried changing the topic from the number of self defense instances to 'well, they wouldn't need to do that if there were fewer guns'. Now you are changing the topic once again because twice in this thread you've found yourself on the wrong side of the facts.
Sorry, didnt realize actually looking into the study wayne brought up was moving the goalposts.
 
Nobody has denied any of this, but you are too dumb to follow along with the conversation, and then just want to condescend to other people. It is hilarious that you call me lazy when you were the one who wouldn't even back up your own claims. Did they not teach irony at your non USF school? Anyway, I'm done, this conversation is stupid because you and crazyhole simply arent capable of actually having a productive conversation.
you claim that guns are the problem. i have provided plenty of proof that guns are not the problem. glad you finally looked up that obama gun control study. now you know my numbers are correct.

where is your proof to back up your claims? i see youd rather take your ball and go home. facts are hard to argue against.
Probably less than 1000
just shy of 300 people are killed per year with rifles. i think cubs doesnt like them because they are black, ie scary.

why do we not hear about knife control? england does it. alot more people die from knives and other blunt objects like hammers than black rifles. actually i think its like 5x more people die from blunt objects than rifles.

you know what else is dangerous? animals. thousands of people die each year from various animals. should we outlaw bees?
 
you claim that guns are the problem. i have provided plenty of proof that guns are not the problem. glad you finally looked up that obama gun control study. now you know my numbers are correct.

where is your proof to back up your claims? i see youd rather take your ball and go home. facts are hard to argue against.

just shy of 300 people are killed per year with rifles. i think cubs doesnt like them because they are black, ie scary.

why do we not hear about knife control? england does it. alot more people die from knives and other blunt objects like hammers than black rifles. actually i think its like 5x more people die from blunt objects than rifles.

you know what else is dangerous? animals. thousands of people die each year from various animals. should we outlaw bees?

I never denied your #s weren't correct, that is what you still haven't grasped. I am leaving the conversation because you are incapable of following my point, and then crazyhole just accuses me of moving the goalposts constantly. I am leaving the conversation and letting you guys have your circle jerk that it is obvious you are wanting. Have at it, just be sure to clean up.
 
Guns are not the problem. From the data I have seen...

Most of the questions relate to the fact that the US is a very large country being compared to a bunch of much smaller countries. Some are very small, others are just small compared to the US.

Suppose –for the sake of argument — that mass shootings are about equally common in the US and Europe.

In the US, one would expect a few shootings every year because it is very large.

In a group of much smaller countries, some countries would have no shootings and some countries would have 1 or 2. Over time, these would average out but over short samples, a particular small country could look very safe or very dangerous, even though it is really no safer or more dangerous than other small countries or the large country.

With this in mind, here are the answers to the questions.
1. One would expect this because in a group of small countries, a few will have no shootings and a few will have 1 or 2 shootings. The ones with shootings will look dangerous.

2. It is probably not fair to say that the “US is becoming safer relative to Europe,” but it is fair to say that “the US looks about as safe as Europe,” when we look at all the data, including data from the past year.

3. No, it would not be more relevant to look at the casualty rates on a year by year basis. Because shootings are so rare, as one looks at smaller time intervals, there will a few very dangerous small countries and a few that look very safe, even though they are really no different.

4. Norway is probably not more dangerous with respect to mass shootings than the US but it — and other European countries — are also probably no safer either.

As I look at the numbers, it seems very likely to me that the US and Europe have similar rates of mass shootings, with the US looking perhaps marginally safer. The rankings that I see are consistent with this.

I hope this helps the cooler find the root of the problem.
 
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I never denied your #s weren't correct, that is what you still haven't grasped. I am leaving the conversation because you are incapable of following my point, and then crazyhole just accuses me of moving the goalposts constantly. I am leaving the conversation and letting you guys have your circle jerk that it is obvious you are wanting. Have at it, just be sure to clean up.
that is a long way to say "you were right, i was wrong."
 
that is a long way to say "you were right, i was wrong."

No, it was a way of telling you why I was done with the conversation (seemed obvious to me). But, you can take it however you wish, I don't really care.
 
No, it was a way of telling you why I was done with the conversation (seemed obvious to me). But, you can take it however you wish, I don't really care.
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Guns are not the problem. From the data I have seen...

Most of the questions relate to the fact that the US is a very large country being compared to a bunch of much smaller countries. Some are very small, others are just small compared to the US.

Suppose –for the sake of argument — that mass shootings are about equally common in the US and Europe.

In the US, one would expect a few shootings every year because it is very large.

In a group of much smaller countries, some countries would have no shootings and some countries would have 1 or 2. Over time, these would average out but over short samples, a particular small country could look very safe or very dangerous, even though it is really no safer or more dangerous than other small countries or the large country.

With this in mind, here are the answers to the questions.
1. One would expect this because in a group of small countries, a few will have no shootings and a few will have 1 or 2 shootings. The ones with shootings will look dangerous.

2. It is probably not fair to say that the “US is becoming safer relative to Europe,” but it is fair to say that “the US looks about as safe as Europe,” when we look at all the data, including data from the past year.

3. No, it would not be more relevant to look at the casualty rates on a year by year basis. Because shootings are so rare, as one looks at smaller time intervals, there will a few very dangerous small countries and a few that look very safe, even though they are really no different.

4. Norway is probably not more dangerous with respect to mass shootings than the US but it — and other European countries — are also probably no safer either.

As I look at the numbers, it seems very likely to me that the US and Europe have similar rates of mass shootings, with the US looking perhaps marginally safer. The rankings that I see are consistent with this.

I hope this helps the cooler find the root of the problem.

Good post. I would add that since the US is so large, it is hard to get an accurate measure of safety for the average person. Imagine pooling El Salvador and Honduras with Belize, aggregating the numbers and then claiming that those 3 countries are the most dangerous in the world. That isn't really fair to Belize because the other 2 skew the number. The same can be said of the US when you include Chicago, Baltimore, and Detroit. In general, the US is a pretty safe place to live but the outliers skew the statistics so far that it becomes a misrepresentation of the overarching fact. You also spoke of sample size. Well, if we broke it down into days, weeks, or even months you could make the case that at a given point in time Norway was the most dangerous country in the western world and the US was the safest.
 
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you claim that guns are the problem. i have provided plenty of proof that guns are not the problem. glad you finally looked up that obama gun control study. now you know my numbers are correct.

where is your proof to back up your claims? i see youd rather take your ball and go home. facts are hard to argue against.

just shy of 300 people are killed per year with rifles. i think cubs doesnt like them because they are black, ie scary.

why do we not hear about knife control? england does it. alot more people die from knives and other blunt objects like hammers than black rifles. actually i think its like 5x more people die from blunt objects than rifles.

you know what else is dangerous? animals. thousands of people die each year from various animals. should we outlaw bees?

300 per year. So that's less than a 1 in a million chance, or less likely than being struck by lightning.
 
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Excuse me? I will post to who I want when I want, if you don't like it don't read it. But I don't give a damn about your opinion of me either, you are just a simplistic a poster as those clowns.

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Keep debating these morons, it's a great look for you. Nowhere did I say you can't debate them, I did accurately state that if you argue with an idiot you will be confused for one.

Carry on, I enjoy watching this pathetic exercise in futility.
 
I never denied your #s weren't correct, that is what you still haven't grasped. I am leaving the conversation because you are incapable of following my point, and then crazyhole just accuses me of moving the goalposts constantly. I am leaving the conversation and letting you guys have your circle jerk that it is obvious you are wanting. Have at it, just be sure to clean up.

You do move the goalposts constantly. If you want to whine and leave the thread then go ahead but it doesn’t change the fact that this is correct
 
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