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What you posted didn’t offer anything new at all. It’s well accepted that Russians used media and social media to sow discord in the last election; on both sides. What that doesn’t do and Mueller didn’t do is find any actual evidence that proves that the Trump campaign actively worked with The Russian government to swing the election. You can scream and scream about Putin owning Trump like you have for the last 4 years, but it’s still not getting anymore true.As you guys kept telling me over and over, so was the Russia "hoax", right?
https://ucf.forums.rivals.com/threads/republican-led-senate-intel-committee-issues-findings.83144/
You have posted some weak and lame stuff, but this probably takes the cake
Even Forrest Gump is flabbergasted that these Caly Doctors are STILL being defended here.
Could we PUH-LEEZ have an honest discussion here??!? Where are you getting this "waiting it out" indefinitely bullshit?
The argument is to open now come hell or high water versus following the Trump Administration's guidelines and reopen areas AFTER they've experienced two straight weeks of declining virus numbers. For most of the country, the experts believe it's likely to happen sometime next month -- or at the latest -- June.
It’s over. The left wing radicals that don’t HAVE to work have lost. The county next to mine is opening up tomorrow. I’m watching the video now to see what’s involved
What should scare everyone is how YouTube and google are removing anything that is not in line with the WHO and CDC. If you didn’t think the Russia type government media control could happen here, well bad news, it’s here.
Its pretty simple. Provide any kind of science that says our approach makes sense.
It’s bad. I should be able to read or watch what I want. Pure evil
The same WHO that covered for Communist China while they stockpiled PPE.
Big story tonight on the Tucker Carlson show about how YouTube took down this exact video. He ripped them
"The doctor's video was produced by a local television channel. It was, in fact a mainstream news story. The video was not pornographic and didn't violate copyright or incite violence. The only justification for taking it down was that the physicians on-screen had reached different conclusions than the people currently in charge," he went on.
"It was a form of dissent from orthodoxy. YouTube and its parent company Google have now officially banned dissent. The CEO of YouTube admitted that openly," Carlson said, referring to a recent interview where Youtube's CEO announced that the platform would remove any coronavirus-content deemed "problematic."
Last week, YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki told CNN that "anything that would go against World Health Organization [WHO] recommendations would be a violation of our policy."
"Consider that for a moment," Carlson responded. "As a matter of science, it's ludicrous. Like everyone else involved in global pandemic policy, the WHO has been wrong in its recommendations. In January, WHO told us that coronavirus could not spread from person-to-person. In March, they told us that face masks didn't work. Those are lies and they were welcome on Google's platforms. Doctors who were treating patients with the virus, meanwhile, have just been banned.
"The doctor's video was produced by a local television channel. It was, in fact a mainstream news story. The video was not pornographic and didn't violate copyright or incite violence. The only justification for taking it down was that the physicians on-screen had reached different conclusions than the people currently in charge," he went on.
"It was a form of dissent from orthodoxy. YouTube and its parent company Google have now officially banned dissent. The CEO of YouTube admitted that openly," Carlson said, referring to a recent interview where Youtube's CEO announced that the platform would remove any coronavirus-content deemed "problematic."
Last week, YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki told CNN that "anything that would go against World Health Organization [WHO] recommendations would be a violation of our policy."
"Consider that for a moment," Carlson responded. "As a matter of science, it's ludicrous. Like everyone else involved in global pandemic policy, the WHO has been wrong in its recommendations. In January, WHO told us that coronavirus could not spread from person-to-person. In March, they told us that face masks didn't work. Those are lies and they were welcome on Google's platforms. Doctors who were treating patients with the virus, meanwhile, have just been banned.
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"So no. This is not about science," Carlson concluded. "Censorship never is about science, it's about power. Big technology companies are using this tragedy to increase their power over the population."
"Our free press exists to push back against abuses of power like this one. That's the only reason we have a First Amendment. Suddenly, our media are not concerned about freedom of speech," Carlson warned.
"Our media are no longer challenging power, they are colluding with power."
These dudes are already being condemned by their own associations. This isn't how science works.
https://bakersfieldnow.com/news/loc...nions-made-by-accelerated-urgent-care-doctors
https://bakersfieldnow.com/news/loc...nions-made-by-accelerated-urgent-care-doctors
Normally, our Usual Suspects would tell us in no uncertain terms that a private corporation or faith-based organization could do whatever the hell they wanted -- it's their g'damn right by golly!
But low and behold, in this case, because the YouTube video featured a couple of dickwad right-wing doctors, it's suddenly a shameful, "lefty position" to condemn their irresponsible and reckless opinions in the midst of a f*king pandemic. So instead of hearing their usual spiel about the rights of a private organization to do whatever the hell it wants, we get it spun to us that this is an evil act of censorship and a Big Bad Tech Company Power Play!
What a bunch of baloney. Most sane people recognized these two were a couple of publicity-seeking a-holes from the get-go. As firm_bizzle pointed out, they were immediately blasted by their own professional organization of doctors for crying out loud!
But we're all supposed to believe YouTube is The Evil Empire for not continuing to give these nutjobs a platform for their recklessness during a pandemic.
But low and behold, in this case, because the YouTube video featured a couple of dickwad right-wing doctors, it's suddenly a shameful, "lefty position" to condemn their irresponsible and reckless opinions in the midst of a f*king pandemic. So instead of hearing their usual spiel about the rights of a private organization to do whatever the hell it wants, we get it spun to us that this is an evil act of censorship and a Big Bad Tech Company Power Play!
What a bunch of baloney. Most sane people recognized these two were a couple of publicity-seeking a-holes from the get-go. As firm_bizzle pointed out, they were immediately blasted by their own professional organization of doctors for crying out loud!
But we're all supposed to believe YouTube is The Evil Empire for not continuing to give these nutjobs a platform for their recklessness during a pandemic.
This is why I was saying earlier that Google is walking a fine line between being a media outlet and being a media aggregator. I'd say they crossed that line yesterday and the lawsuits can start coming in.
Some ER doctors stating FACTS so they can go back to WORK. WHAT A TERRIBLE BIAS!
Lock them up! Meanwhile, fear mongers like you and your takeout fiasco continue to destroy the economy with the half ass lockdown
They weren't really even dissenting or criticizing the approach we've taken. Just stating that this isn't nearly as bad as the estimates that were based on computer models so its time to reassess our approach going forward. How is that a bad thing?
There are gullible people in this world who watch this kind of crappola on the internet and -- get this -- start believing this pandemic thing ain't so bad after all.
So it was up to YouTube to do the responsible thing and protect some of the idiots who watch some of their batshit crazy videos from themselves.
There are gullible people in this world who watch this kind of crappola on the internet and -- get this -- start believing this pandemic thing ain't so bad after all.
So it was up to YouTube to do the responsible thing and protect some of the idiots who watch some of their batshit crazy videos from themselves.
You didn't even watch the video, so how can you comment on it?
Well they are struggling financially, so probably just needed to spread lies. Nevermind the fact that if they are struggling financially it could mean closing 5 clinics that will no longer be able to serve patients.They told him not to watch videos with doctors and going over stats. Must believe a single source that is constantly wrong.
Yeah boy, this whole deal was all about staying afloat to continue serving their wonderful patients.
You know, when I first started watching their video, my first thought was "What a pair of unselfish, altruistic, self-sacrificing doctors!!!"
Agreed. Better to close those clinics than let them do a press conference.Yeah boy, this whole deal was all about staying afloat to continue serving their wonderful patients.
You know, when I first started watching their video, my first thought was "What a pair of unselfish, altruistic, self-sacrificing doctors!!!"
Lose their clinics by not stepping forward and telling YouTube the truth?
Funny, back on Page 1 someone told me these two doctors could "lose an awful lot" by courageously stepping forward. Now we're hearing these two dickwads did it in a crass publicity stunt to save their asses.
Got it. Better to keep their mouths shut about science that goes against your god-king that wants you to live in unnecessary fear.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...y-at-home-order-daniel-g-murphy-a9489026.html
Just another quack on the front lines
Just another quack on the front lines
There was a segment on Morning Joe this morning where honest-to-goodness health experts were asked about these two yahoos' 'breaking news.'
Their response?
- Most of us learned in high school that in order for any research study results to be valid, you've got to have a randomized sample. The sample used by these doctors? Their patients in Bakersfield!!! No bias there.
- The antibody test they used is prone to false positives. Oops.
- Instead of presenting their finding through the normal medical study channels (like all legit studies do), these yahoos made arrangements for a taped press conference to get their "15 minutes of fame."
- Bottom line? It was junk science.
This is why you should have actually watched it.There was a segment on Morning Joe this morning where honest-to-goodness health experts were asked about these two yahoos' 'breaking news.'
Their response?
So naturally, our anti-science crowd here thought it was amaaaaaazing!!!!!
- Most of us learned in high school that in order for any research study results to be valid, you've got to have a randomized sample. The sample used by these doctors? Their patients in Bakersfield!!! No bias there.
- The antibody test they used is prone to false positives. Oops.
- Instead of presenting their finding through the normal medical study channels (like all legit studies do), these yahoos made arrangements for a taped press conference to get their "15 minutes of fame."
- Bottom line? It was junk science.
They presented data for Bakersfield and said Bakersfield should open back up. They then presented published data from all over the world to demonstrate that Bakersfield has comparable rates as everywhere else, regardless of lockdown or not.
What ever happened to liberals saying that we should be more like Sweden? .02% death rate with no mandated shutdowns.
The problem with your argument is that if he's wrong, people live. If you are wrong, people die.
The choice isn't between sitting at home or going back to normal. The answer is somewhere in between, we just don't know where and that may change with facts of the situation.
People die if everyone sits home afraid to come out of their houses too. They die if they’re afraid to go to the hospital for chest pains or stroke symptoms. But you’ve read all this before. So why do you constantly boil it down to an equation so radically oversimplified that it’s actually dangerous?
It's not actually dangerous?
I could have sworn I heard we've lost more people to the coronavirus than we did during the Vietnam War.
I could have sworn that we literally do not track any other cause of death this way yet for some idiotic reason think that we must compare COVID deaths to war deaths.
Dumbass media talking points must live on!
Awesome! I’ll make sure I stay inside, so I don’t get shot by a foreign soldier waiting outside my house
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