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Which is it? In one breath you point to the infection numbers as 'proof' that masks "clearly aren't working" and in the next breath you point to countless social gatherings where the mask mandates have been ignored.
Have you been around anyone in the last year without wearing a mask?
 
What evidence?

This country hasn't been anywhere close to universal mask-wearing.
Ah yes, that old chestnut. Just like how socialism really does work, it's just that nobody has done it right yet.

The last study I read showed a less than 2% improvement on wearing masks than not wearing masks. Of course, the likelihood of someone wearing a mask also probably means they were also social distancing, which is far more effective by any opinion.
 
So why in areas where much higher mask wearing % is there no real difference in overall infections from that area vs lower mask wearing areas. The math isn't working showing it is effective in any dramatic fashion.
Oh, so there's quantifiable statistics available regarding mask-wearing vs non-mask wearing throughout the country. Wow, who knew?

One statistic we do know is that countries with strict mask mandates have significantly lower covid death rates than countries who don't.

Let me guess: Unlike my statistics, YOUR "well, what I've heard" rumors are MUCH more reliable, right? :)
 
One statistic we do know is that countries with strict mask mandates have significantly lower covid death rates than countries who don't
Who cares about other countries? That’s comparing apples and oranges. God forbid that you actually have taken a class in statistics. There are way many more variables comparing other countries to our own states.
 
You can't compare other countries with different healthy lifestyles and obesity rates. It's a fact that most dying have other major issues and not dying from covid only. We are pretty unhealthy in the United States with a bunch of fat folks. We also are a travel hub and don't get a benefit of a complete Island border. We can't even have a Mexican boarder without libs freaking out.

Back to United States only. No difference in commie areas vs non commie areas for the most part with masks. Book closed. Chud masks aren't doing anything significant.
How can anybody argue against such stellar scientific evidence! :)
 
Oh, so there's quantifiable statistics available regarding mask-wearing vs non-mask wearing throughout the country. Wow, who knew?

One statistic we do know is that countries with strict mask mandates have significantly lower covid death rates than countries who don't.

Let me guess: Unlike my statistics, YOUR "well, what I've heard" rumors are MUCH more reliable, right? :)
You didn’t respond to my question about whether or not YOU have strictly followed masking 100% of the time when interacting with anyone outside of your household over the past year.

If you’ve gone to visit anyone in the past year without wearing a mask the whole time, you’re a hypocrite.
 
He won't admit that. I had a very nice liberal friend say "you know if we just completely shut down for another month". This while standing on a pack dock in the middle of the covid high numbers without a mask.
Yep. As if completely shutting down is even possible. People have to eat, get medical care, and do thousands of jobs that keep everyone ALIVE.
 
You didn’t respond to my question about whether or not YOU have strictly followed masking 100% of the time when interacting with anyone outside of your household over the past year. If you’ve gone to visit anyone in the past year without wearing a mask the whole time, you’re a hypocrite.
He won't admit that. I had a very nice liberal friend say "you know if we just completely shut down for another month". This while standing on a pack dock in the middle of the covid high numbers without a mask.
First you guys blasted me for "hiding out in my basement wearing masks and gloves nonstop afraid to go out in public." Now, it appears, I'm supposedly a hypocrite.

When you have no answers to health officials' common sense guidelines, I guess the best you can do is to make fun of me -- an anonymous poster you don't know anything about beyond what I post. But if that's the best you can do, it would help if you were at least consistent. :)
 
Ok. Let's be honest with no nonsense. Did you break the guidelines? I'm ok if you did, btw. I don't really believe anyone truly lived by the guidelines. And frankly if you were healthy and younger you shouldn't.
I know this will sound wild and crazy to you but there are actually a sizable group of Americans like my wife and me who take the COVID guidelines seriously.

Am I sick and tired of them? Damn right I am. My wife and I LOVE to travel; and LOVE to eat out; and LOVE to go to movies and sporting events, etc., etc., etc. Heck, I was daydreaming today while waiting for my shot about flying to Vegas for a long weekend soon after my second shot.
 
And that is fine. As long as those that want to lock down don't enforce rules on the rest. I was lucky enough to take 3x the vacations at the same price as last year. My kids played sports...baseball/basketball/gymnastics without almost any break. My kids went to in person school. Really nothing changed for me but I felt the pain of small business just from others. There was no reason ever for those under 50 to lockdown but hopefully live and learn. Shopping at a crowded target or Walmart and closing down small business made no sense, but as long as they got the mean orange guy I guess.
Congrats on winning the COVID lottery so far. 👍
 
First you guys blasted me for "hiding out in my basement wearing masks and gloves nonstop afraid to go out in public." Now, it appears, I'm supposedly a hypocrite.

When you have no answers to health officials' common sense guidelines, I guess the best you can do is to make fun of me -- an anonymous poster you don't know anything about beyond what I post. But if that's the best you can do, it would help if you were at least consistent. :)
Not making fun... just finding it odd that you don’t give a straight answer either.

If you followed every guideline every day, good for you. But it doesn’t seem like that’s the case given the evasive answer. You’d gladly shut us up if that were the truth.

It’s ok... it’s nearly impossible to isolate yourself. People need social interaction. That’s kind of the whole point we’ve been making.
 
Very true...especially anyone under 60 and healthy. I'm sure it will suck getting covid but not enough for tossing out a year.
You've probably already had it. Remember: covid is so scary that you have to get tested to know that you have it.
 
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Abbott is just trying to win political points after his disastrous handling of the winter storm. Texas has one of the lowest vaccination rates in the country at this point at 14%
Texas has a lot of people. California is in the same boat.
 
Received my second shot today AND I have antibodies. So.., why am I still wearing a mask?
Because you can still carry it to others. The US Media is spreading misinformation to the contrary.

BTW, don't be shocked when herd immunity ends up not becoming a reality with this thing.
 
Because you can still carry it to others. The US Media is spreading misinformation to the contrary.

BTW, don't be shocked when herd immunity ends up not becoming a reality with this thing.
So.. it’s in my respiratory passages even with the vaccine? Then what you’re saying is that after everyone has had the opportunity to get the vaccine, then we are done with masks because we aren’t wearing them for eternity. I’m not wearing a mask to save the life of dickheads that are refusing it. It’s every man for themselves. You get Covid and live, get the vaccine or die. Who cares
 
Oh, so there's quantifiable statistics available regarding mask-wearing vs non-mask wearing throughout the country. Wow, who knew?

One statistic we do know is that countries with strict mask mandates have significantly lower covid death rates than countries who don't.

Let me guess: Unlike my statistics, YOUR "well, what I've heard" rumors are MUCH more reliable, right? :)
False, please overlay the various states or country vs. country onto a single graph and it's clear as day that there is now correlation to be found. Or simply remove the mitigation implementation dates (mask mandate, lockdown, etc.) from any of the graphs and try to identify when any of them went into effect, you can do it with any regularity. The virus particle is smaller than the stupid masks. We're not living in a laboratory, even if you can get them to do something in a lab study it doesn't necessarily work in the real world. But if we just did it better it would work right?
 
Why does anyone need to wait longer? Nobody is stopping you from being scared in your house. We are doing these silly games of going in some stores with a masks but then everyone comes to huge house parties, kids sports events, etc. Kids wear a mask to school but at lunch jammed into tight areas maskless along with playtime maskless.

It's a freaking sideshow joke. Stay home if you're scared. Nobody is forcing you out.
Just find the stores that don't scream at you. I don't go to Walmart food store because they descended on me like a criminal before I got to the produce schedule. Literally across the street at publix I walk in no mask every time because they respect my human dignity. I've found that most places won't press it but you gotta have the stones to walk in and ignore them or tell them no. I've been yelled at many times, it's not that scary. Just laugh at the crazy maskers, they're true believers and will wear them forever because it makes them feel better than you, you're feeding into it when you engage with them.

Places in Seminole County that respect my right to walk around breathing God's fresh air:
-Publix
-Ace hardware
-Home depot
-My church
-Habaneros Mexican Restaurant
-The local donut shop in Oviedo
-Wawa (following a brief argument in spring 2020).

They all have policies because the laywers saud they have too, many places don't enforce it though, only one way to find out though, gotta gird your loins and walk in no mask.
 
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Gators in Altamonte/Apopka doesn't care if you wear a mask. Noticed Publix doesn't care either. All family gyms are a big no to masks and training centers. Most vehicle dealerships don't care about masks either.

Go out to Lake County. You will be looked at funny for wearing a mask. Lol.
Nice to know about Gators. Yeah we're beaching it in Brevard fairly often, thinking about moving out there the longer this persists.
 
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