Nearly all the capitol rioters charged have used the “Trump said to do it” defense. But you honestly believe his words didn’t incite a single person to riot?
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If I were you, this is where I'd end with a pithy, "Holy shit, it’s like you don’t even read" remark.
If I were you, this is where I'd end with a pithy, "Holy shit, it’s like you don’t even read" remark.
Where did I say Fox News and Conservative talk radio is the answer?
Please quote me if I EVER offered them up as a solution.
I didn’t, and you know I didn’t. They’re part of the fücking problem, you halfwit. They don’t have any more credibility than CNN and MSNBC do.
Please just stop embarrassing yourself, your family, your teachers, and anyone else who is responsible for how badly you comprehend written words.
You talk about the crappy 'state of journalism' and not mention them??!? Yeah, you're Mister "Reasonable, Fair, and Balanced," right?
Just take the L.You talk about the crappy 'state of journalism' and not mention them??!? Yeah, you're Mister "Reasonable, Fair, and Balanced," right?
I didn’t write a dissertation on bad journalism. The only outlet I mentioned specifically was CNN because they had someone saying the quiet part out loud on tape.
I don’t watch Fox News. Sorry you feel like I should have mentioned Fox, Breitbart, MSNBC, CNN, The Young Turks, Vox, Daily Wire, WaPo, NYT, et al and I didn’t.
Michael Flynn said today that covid. was a conspiracy to get Trump out of office, and that other parts of the world didnt struggle with covid. But yeah, it is the voting laws that have eroded confidence in voting, not the batshit crazy conspiracy theorists.
All of the conspiracy theorists have eroded confidence. Such as the people that screamed Russia for the last four years and spent 20 million dollars on a lame duck investigation.
So, in other words, your little spiel was nothing but a bunch of blowhard bullshit. Sorry, clearly I gave your post more seriousness than it deserved.
No, apparently the substance of the post is just above your level of comprehension.
The scenario then goes like this. The Republicans win back the House and Senate in 2022, in part thanks to voter suppression. The Republican candidate in 2024 loses the popular vote by several million and the electoral vote by the margin of a few states. State legislatures, claiming fraud, alter the electoral count vote. The House and Senate accept that altered count. The losing candidate becomes the president. We no longer have "democratically elected government." And people are angry.
No one is seeking to hide that this is the plan. It is right there out in the open. The prospective Republican candidates for 2024, Donald Trump, Ted Cruz, and Josh Hawley, are all running on a big lie platform. If your platform is that elections do not work, you are saying that you intend to come to power some other way. The big lie is designed not to win an election, but to discredit one. Any candidate who tells it is alienating most Americans, and preparing a minority for a scenario where fraud is claimed. This is just what Trump tried in 2020, and it led to a coup attempt in January 2021. It will be worse in January 2025.
...The Supreme Court would rule, but would anyone pay attention? Those who have decided to overthrow democracy believe that the Court is on their side, which is why they are proceeding as they are. If they were proven wrong in January 2025, it would be too late; they would not change course. Those who are defending voting rights expect the Court to rule against voting, since that is what it generally does. If the Court rules against voting in the setting of antidemocratic regime change, this will seem screamingly illegitimate to a very large number of Americans. No Court, no Constitution. No Constitution, no rule of law. No rule of law, widespread violence. The collapse of the United States follows.
This is from one of the worlds leading historians on authoritarianism, and how they rose to power. I know many of you will dismiss it because it didnt come from Joe Schmoe on Facebook, but this is precisely the danger we are in right now. While they are still trying to over throw the election in Arizona by looking for bamboo, and now I think they are blaming Italy for changing votes via satellite, the reality is that what they are actually doing is moving to a point where elections dont matter. If Republicans win in 2022, 2024 is going to be a make or break point for this country.
We need a breaking point.
The scenario then goes like this. The Republicans win back the House and Senate in 2022, in part thanks to voter suppression. The Republican candidate in 2024 loses the popular vote by several million and the electoral vote by the margin of a few states. State legislatures, claiming fraud, alter the electoral count vote. The House and Senate accept that altered count. The losing candidate becomes the president. We no longer have "democratically elected government." And people are angry.
No one is seeking to hide that this is the plan. It is right there out in the open. The prospective Republican candidates for 2024, Donald Trump, Ted Cruz, and Josh Hawley, are all running on a big lie platform. If your platform is that elections do not work, you are saying that you intend to come to power some other way. The big lie is designed not to win an election, but to discredit one. Any candidate who tells it is alienating most Americans, and preparing a minority for a scenario where fraud is claimed. This is just what Trump tried in 2020, and it led to a coup attempt in January 2021. It will be worse in January 2025.
...The Supreme Court would rule, but would anyone pay attention? Those who have decided to overthrow democracy believe that the Court is on their side, which is why they are proceeding as they are. If they were proven wrong in January 2025, it would be too late; they would not change course. Those who are defending voting rights expect the Court to rule against voting, since that is what it generally does. If the Court rules against voting in the setting of antidemocratic regime change, this will seem screamingly illegitimate to a very large number of Americans. No Court, no Constitution. No Constitution, no rule of law. No rule of law, widespread violence. The collapse of the United States follows.
This is from one of the worlds leading historians on authoritarianism, and how they rose to power. I know many of you will dismiss it because it didnt come from Joe Schmoe on Facebook, but this is precisely the danger we are in right now. While they are still trying to over throw the election in Arizona by looking for bamboo, and now I think they are blaming Italy for changing votes via satellite, the reality is that what they are actually doing is moving to a point where elections dont matter. If Republicans win in 2022, 2024 is going to be a make or break point for this country.
Well we didnt until we elected a conspiracy theorist reality TV star as president.
No we didnt. This country was fine until we started ushering in conspiracy as truth, and leadership that encourages it. But also be careful what you wish for. A lot of these red states are going to be extremely poor if the time ever comes that the US does go the way of the USSR. Uncle Sugar wont be there to give them financial support.
Since 2008? Oh yeah, I forgot we elected a illegitimate Black President from Kenya who came into office and gave the banks a lot of money.
No. As soon as we started bailing out investment banks instead of allowing mark-to-market principles to do their thing, it's been needed.
Yeah, by their own mistakes. Occupy Wall Street was right. I'm kind of surprised that you don't acknowledge that.
It's funny you guys didnt complain about mail votes when it was mostly Republicans that tended to use it.
Seriously? You think these new voting measures and conspiracies are because of investment banks? You are conflating two issues..
Come on, Cubs79, NOTHING they say anymore has anything to do with reality.
Everything coming from their camp is pure spin. Just look at their recent Spin Hits: Covid-19 is just the sniffles, Trump's re-election was stolen, Stop the Steal Day was just a regular ol' day on Capitol Hill, the Russian collusion scandal was a hoax, the Ukraine scandal was a hoax, and the Hunter Biden sex scandal WASN'T a hoax.
What spin masterpieces did I miss, guys?
NO evidence of fraud, so lets make that point clear. But, why werent Republicans complaining about mail in ballots before?
I hope they realize at some point that destroying, or at least weakening, our democracy, wont be good for them either. When the ruling class can rule without having to answer to the people, they will screw them over just quickly as they screw Democrats over, and there might be little they can do about it at that point.
Yeah. Displeasure and distrust in the government reached a fever pitch in 2008. You can act like everything was just fine and well for years and it wasn't until Trump and this voting shit came to a head, but distrust in the political process has been building for over a decade.
You are equating two issues, but even if you think that is the case, the answer to fixing it certainly isnt to make it even more difficult to vote which essentially gives even more power to the political class, who will continue to bend over even more for wall st.
You arent even keeping up with the conspiracies. Hiding votes, feeding votes to chickens, Italy changing votes, etc etc, has nothing to do with mail in votes. You need to keep up more with the batshit craziness coming out of the Republican party. You are behind on your conspiracies.
THey are talking about voting machines being hacked. THat has nothing to do with mail in voting or IDs. They also tried to pass laws to on voter security which McConnell squashed.
I am not going off the wall. All of those things are actual claims from Republicans in AZ. I know it is embarrassing, but I didnt make a single one of those up.
Meadows Pressed Justice Dept. to Investigate Election Fraud Claims (Published 2021)
Emails show the increasingly urgent efforts by President Trump and his allies during his last days in office to find some way to undermine, or even nullify, the election results.
Trump's chief of staff was claiming that implying that Italy literally changed votes using satellites. Now explain to me how getting rid of vote by mail would change Italy from using satellites to changes votes?
I am all for more election security in that regard. But that is a completely separate issue than vote by mail.
It isnt my fault you dont actually know what is going on with the Republican party.
What you want isnt the issue because you arent the one with any sort of power to purposely try and steal and election. So just because you dont care about these things, doesnt mean they arent serious issues. You dont get to pick and choose what is going on simply because you dont care about some parts of it. Those things are still going on whether you care about them or not.
Russian collusion was looked at by both houses and a special prosecutor who all found no evidence, after spending 10's of millions, so yes it was a hoax, Ukraine did have a quid pro quo, and it was Biden who did it to protect himself and his son. so you decide which was real. The mess at the capital was real, and pre planned by 2 or 3 groups ahead of time. As for Hunter Biden, he is a miserable excuse for a human being. Drug addict, Pedophile, ( chip off the old block)
I dont want you to worship them, I want you to call them out on their BS, especially when it literally comes to our republic. You cant tell me I am off the wall by calling out batshit crazy stuff from the party, and then pretend you are an objective observer. There are people in the party that do call it out, so maybe align with that portion of the party.
They were, and Democrats and Republicans have both complained about Dominion Machines for a few years now.
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