Once Again, Hollywood Erases History for PC Bulls hit!
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I still liked it, other the demonization of Buzz Aldrin. It was fairly accurate all around.
They should have included the flag planting, since it was a core reason why we went, and would have removed all of the right-wing media chastising it. It was stupid for the director/producer to downplay the significance, let alone say, "all of man/Earth went."
And they missed a golden opportunity with the right, since they *did* bash the welfare-left in the movie. A repeat theme was using astronaut dead lives to argue ending the moon shot, and put the movie net towards social programs. Typical bleeding heart type attitudes that really happened, but doesnt get any coverage in history.
I mean, Democrats of the era were arguing over moon shot spending v. welfare spending, Johnson's guns' butter, the early follies of socialism-like views. But they kept it focused on the man and the missions, especially Gemini 8.
In the end it was a good biopic of the man. Although not entirely accurate at times, 'From the Earth to the Moon,' the Tom Hanks HBO mini-series, fills in a lot more. Even Episode 1 is supurb on Gemini history, as well as Astronaut Group 2 (including Armstrong).
But it's totally unlike 'The Right Stuff.' Not the same type of movie.
They should have included the flag planting, since it was a core reason why we went, and would have removed all of the right-wing media chastising it. It was stupid for the director/producer to downplay the significance, let alone say, "all of man/Earth went."
And they missed a golden opportunity with the right, since they *did* bash the welfare-left in the movie. A repeat theme was using astronaut dead lives to argue ending the moon shot, and put the movie net towards social programs. Typical bleeding heart type attitudes that really happened, but doesnt get any coverage in history.
I mean, Democrats of the era were arguing over moon shot spending v. welfare spending, Johnson's guns' butter, the early follies of socialism-like views. But they kept it focused on the man and the missions, especially Gemini 8.
In the end it was a good biopic of the man. Although not entirely accurate at times, 'From the Earth to the Moon,' the Tom Hanks HBO mini-series, fills in a lot more. Even Episode 1 is supurb on Gemini history, as well as Astronaut Group 2 (including Armstrong).
But it's totally unlike 'The Right Stuff.' Not the same type of movie.
The entire movie was about the ingenuity, boldness, and courage to be found in the American Spirit. But for goodness sakes, let's all focus on symbolism over substance, right UCFBS?
Yes, we were in a race (in our minds at least) with the USSR to be first on the moon. But I would argue that Armstrong's first step on the moon was the ultimate symbol of America's success, particularly when the American flag was clearly evident on the moon's surface. But if conservatives avoided this "lib" movie, it was their loss.
To be fair, Aldrin wasn't portrayed well in A Man on the Moon, and by extension, "From the Earth to the Moon," either. He's always had a large personality and never been afraid to share his opinions, and that's rubbed a lot of his fellow astronauts the wrong way. The space enthusiast community has also long had a conflicted relationship with Buzz.
I also wouldn't feel too bad about Buzz. More so than any other astronaut, he's capitalized on his fame to the tune if millions in endorsements, licensing agreements, speaking appearances and autograph fees.
And in Buzz's defense, they really 'threw him away' as a 'PR piece' after 11. That was stupid. I don't want to take away from Armstrong, who Buzz always said was 'the best pilot' (calm, cool -- Buzz always talks fondly of Armstrong, despite what people say), but Armstrong has his marks in his career, and was humble enough to choose a lower profile professorship -- of so many high-profile offerings -- at Cincy, because he only had a Masters.
IMHO, Aldrin should have been running a lot of things, and instead, had to opt for the USAF to get away from being a "PR piece." And the USAF shut down the program barely a year after he took it over, but it wasn't like they were doing 'groundbreaking' things there that would have satisfied Aldrin. Aldrin really would have kept NASA straight, and not the BS that it quickly became. He also questioned many aspects of the Shuttle Transport System (STS), and had they listened, we wouldn't have had the folly of the '80s with the US gov't forcing everyone -- both private and public -- to use STS for all launches (until the '86 tragedy) to get the "costs down."
No one likes an overachiever who holds people to standards. They had to pick Aldrin for 11 because he was just that. I really think NASA would have been quite different had they not discarded the men of 11, and kept Aldrin running many aspects.
So I don't blame him for 'cashing in.' I still think he's overly demonized. He made the Gemini program, proved underwater training, developed -- when the other engineers has failed -- tools and techniques to work in space, which hadn't accomplished nearly as much. People forget, "From the Earth to the Moon" did highlight that -- even if briefly -- in Episode 1. But yeah, they didn't treat him well after that.
Buzz Aldrin is really NASA's version of John McCain. Both were womanizers and even drunks at times, but it was only after they had been broken by others. After all, McCain didn't need to go to 'Nam, given his father. And Adrin was a real, combat pilot, with a PhD in Astrophysics from MIT. Both made themselves on their own ... and then were broken by others.
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