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Puerto Rico Declares Bankruptcy

Your loss. I live in Osecola and have for the last 14 years. Prior to that I lived in various parts of Orange and Seminole. I'm white and not Hispanic. It's not perfect, but it's on par with most parts of Orlando and I really like it. There are bad parts, but they're fairly isolated and there are worse parts of Orlando. I guess your entitled to your opinion, but in my mind, it's wrong. That link is a joke, too.

I'm glad you're happy there but there really is no reason to visit Osceola. It's a craphole.

We're happy you found a place that you enjoy but it's the outlier in the county.
 
Bob, I've lived in both and you need to stop, the best part of Osceola is on par with north Tampa which is not even the top five areas of Tampa.
You need to stop. You don't live in FL, IIRC.

That's ok. I guess I should have known better than to try to convince prejudiced assholes on a message board. You're not going to change your mind, even if you're wrong. That's fine. That means it stays less crowded. Even better for me.
 
There are nearly 200k registered voters in Osceola, with 87k are registered Democrats. That's less than half, but it is the majority party.

Seminole had 25 murders last year. Osceola had 11.

And so what if it's half Hispanic? You insinuate that it's a bad thing.

2 things...I responded a poster who responded to this comment about PR:

I don't want anything to do with Puerto Rico. Outside of the tourist areas it's a shithole. Crime everywhere, corruption throughout its governing bodies and the joke they call a police force. The amount of money the US would have to sink into it just to bring it to some kind of decent standard is mind boggling. I wish we could cut it off from being a territory.

And when someone said "just like America", this is the quote I responded to:

could be used to describe Osceola County

And then I corrected you on crime stats for Seminole vs Osceola County.
 
Lol. Can I get in here and say Brooksville/Hernando is better than Orange, Seminole, Osceola, Hillsborough and Pinellas?
 
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You need to stop. You don't live in FL, IIRC.

That's ok. I guess I should have known better than to try to convince prejudiced assholes on a message board. You're not going to change your mind, even if you're wrong. That's fine. That means it stays less crowded. Even better for me.
Yes I live in NY but I lived in Osceola county for three years and my brother still teaches at OHS. My job is to analyze markets for retailers using 71 different psychographic categories. Osceola county does not rate very high and from an education level, Osceola county is in the bottom five in the state.
 
Yes I live in NY but I lived in Osceola county for three years and my brother still teaches at OHS. My job is to analyze markets for retailers using 71 different psychographic categories. Osceola county does not rate very high and from an education level, Osceola county is in the bottom five in the state.
Ok. Retail is booming though. Lots of new development happening too.

And according to this site, it's right in the middle of the state both in terms of % of 25+ population with HS diploma and in terms of % of 25+ population with bachelors degrees.
https://www.indexmundi.com/facts/un...-over-with-high-school-degree-or-higher#chart

Certainly not bottom 5.
 
I'm unfamiliar with how Foreign investment works. But how is Puerto Rican investments treated by the IRS? Is there a benefit to investors by Puerto Rico becoming a state? Might be a way to raise the capital needed to rebuild.
 
In all fairness Osceola County is quite large but all it is really known for is Kissimmee which is a $hit hole. Now go out towards Brevard County and Osceola turns very rural, still not my type of thing but it has to be better than Kissimmee.
 
Excuse me, we are piling on Osceola and Hernando counties here.
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I've driven by that spot hundreds of times and have never had any inclination to stop.

We stopped once since it's supposed to have pretty good food. However I couldn't get past the general sense of dirt and grime everywhere, so we kept driving until we found a Publix. The building itself is historic given it predates 1920 and served as a trading post starting in the 1880's. There a history landmark sign out front.
 
Tampa is a craphole.
while we are on the topic of analyzing/shitting on Florida counties/cities I'm wondering what are the projected growth numbers for Sarasota.

Everytime I go there I wonder how this isn't circled for developers to eventually shoot past Tampa as the largest/most well known Gulf Coast city in Florida. It has everything you would want to turn into one of the best coastal cities in America. The stretch from Siesta Key to LBK is hard to beat anywhere. All things being equal other than the dating pool I don't know why anyone would pick to live in Tampa over Sarasota.
 
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while we are on the topic of analyzing/shitting on Florida counties/cities I'm wondering what are the projected growth numbers for Sarasota.

Everytime I go there I wonder how this isn't circled for developers to eventually shoot past Tampa as the largest/most well known Gulf Coast city in Florida. It has everything you would want to turn into one of the best coastal cities in America. The stretch from Siesta Key to LBK is hard to beat anywhere. All things being equal other than the dating pool I don't know why anyone would pick to live in Tampa over Sarasota.

Well for starters, there is no real industry in Sarasota compared to Tampa/St Pete.

From my house in St Pete to Sarasota is a good 40-45 minutes without traffic and it can easily become 75 minutes with normal traffic. It's even worse going to Tampa because you have to use 75 and it completely clogs up around Brandon going into the city. It's not like a suburb that's reachable in 20-25 minutes.

Siesta and Longboat Keys are nice, largely, because people have NOT started pouring in to live down there.
 
Well for starters, there is no real industry in Sarasota compared to Tampa/St Pete.

From my house in St Pete to Sarasota is a good 40-45 minutes without traffic and it can easily become 75 minutes with normal traffic. It's even worse going to Tampa because you have to use 75 and it completely clogs up around Brandon going into the city. It's not like a suburb that's reachable in 20-25 minutes.

Siesta and Longboat Keys are nice, largely, because people have NOT started pouring in to live down there.
yeah I know but it's a great option to start basing some companies. Most of Tampa Bay's growth has gone north towards Wesley Chapel and that commute into Tampa is brutal, at least Sarasota has amazing beaches to come home to if someone wants to dare do that commute or just has the luxury of working mobile from home.
 
OT: My wife and I caught a cab from the airport to our hotel when we went to Dublin for the Penn St game. The cab driver asked if we were from Germany, and I said no St. Pete., Fl. Then I started to explain where it was and he cut me off and said he goes to Longboat Key every year he knows where it is.
 
while we are on the topic of analyzing/shitting on Florida counties/cities I'm wondering what are the projected growth numbers for Sarasota.

Everytime I go there I wonder how this isn't circled for developers to eventually shoot past Tampa as the largest/most well known Gulf Coast city in Florida. It has everything you would want to turn into one of the best coastal cities in America. The stretch from Siesta Key to LBK is hard to beat anywhere. All things being equal other than the dating pool I don't know why anyone would pick to live in Tampa over Sarasota.
First land costs are through the roof and much of the commercial land is owned by one or two large developers and they are not going to compete with themselves. Also, for the longest time Sarasota and the surrounding County would not allow development east of I-75 and that was a major hurdle to growth in the area.
 
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So much misinformation here, makes my eyes hurt.

http://www.taxjusticeblog.org/archive/2016/08/puerto_rico_and_section_936_a.php#.WRGm4fkrJhE

Prior to 1996, there was all sorts of industry in Puerto Rico: electronics, pharmaceutical, manufacturing, etc. Then the Small Business Job Protection Act happened. If you know anything about logistics, bringing industry to an island in the middle of the Caribbean is not cheap, so tax cuts were given to all the US and foreign companies to operate out of PR. Once those tax cuts were gone (thanks, Clinton), and there was no other regulation to take its place, all major companies left, leaving an enormous portion of the island unemployed. That's when people started leaving. That's when I left.
 
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So much misinformation here, makes my eyes hurt.

http://www.taxjusticeblog.org/archive/2016/08/puerto_rico_and_section_936_a.php#.WRGm4fkrJhE

Prior to 1996, there was all sorts of industry in Puerto Rico: electronics, pharmaceutical, manufacturing, etc. Then the Small Business Job Protection Act happened. If you know anything about logistics, bringing industry to an island in the middle of the Caribbean is not cheap, so tax cuts were given to all the US and foreign companies to operate out of PR. Once those tax cuts were gone (thanks, Clinton), and there was no other regulation to take its place, all major companies left, leaving an enormous portion of the island unemployed. That's when people started leaving. That's when I left.

That and your dendrophiliac convictions.
 
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