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None of the required UCF Student Fees will be decreased anytime soon: (Fees per hr)
You keep saying this. And I know UCF would not WANT to reduce student athletic fees.

But what happens when some Florida politician looking to make a name for themself, makes a fuss about UCF making almost as much TV money as FSU and having a student athletic fee almost twice as much as FSU's?
 
You keep saying this. And I know UCF would not WANT to reduce student athletic fees.

But what happens when some Florida politician looking to make a name for themself, makes a fuss about UCF making almost as much TV money as FSU and having a student athletic fee almost twice as much as FSU's?
We won’t make the same amount of tv money as FSU. The Big 12 money drops in half when OU and Texas leave.
 
UCF students don't know how lucky they are for ticket prices. Prices at the Texas schools are very expense, even for students. If you want to go to Alabama vs Tamu for example, you're looking at minimum $300 for nose bleed seats for the public. They can pack about 106k people in Kyle field. Sidelines cost several thousands. When you factor in consession, they probably pull in $50 mil for a Bama game.
How high are student fees at those schools? There is more to it than butt in the seats.

yearly athletic fees 2018-19

few examples, ECU $723, USF $454, Memphis $450, UCF $430. OLK, Mich, South Carolina, Miss St, Cincy, Nebraska $0.
 
We won’t make the same amount of tv money as FSU. The Big 12 money drops in half when OU and Texas leave.
I’ve heard this said by ppl, but is this confirmed? I don’t think it is…the AAC allegedly isn’t decreasing either, even though ppl said it would when the big 3 left.
 
I’ve heard this said by ppl, but is this confirmed? I don’t think it is…the AAC allegedly isn’t decreasing either, even though ppl said it would when the big 3 left.
The contract the commissioners sign stipulates the amount given with the current teams. If the teams change, the contract will be renegotiated. Both conferences losing top part of conference, will not get the same dollar figure. Plus when we join 4 teams are added and none subtracted. We don’t get a full share anyway for the first couple years. We’ll be lucky to get half of current deal until Big 12 proves it’s just as good.
 
The contract the commissioners sign stipulates the amount given with the current teams. If the teams change, the contract will be renegotiated. Both conferences losing top part of conference, will not get the same dollar figure. Plus when we join 4 teams are added and none subtracted. We don’t get a full share anyway for the first couple years. We’ll be lucky to get half of current deal until Big 12 proves it’s just as good.
Interesting. I get the full share stuff for the first couple years for the new teams, but I guess we’ll see about the renegotiation. I think the contract is up in 2025 anyways.
 
I think most people are predicting the Big 12 TV schools will get 14-21 mill per year. Also saw one say 25 mill. At a minimum it's double what AAC teams are currently getting...plus the AAC TV deal might fall back to 2-3 mill per year once we're gone.
 
I think most people are predicting the Big 12 TV schools will get 14-21 mill per year. Also saw one say 25 mill. At a minimum it's double what AAC teams are currently getting...plus the AAC TV deal might fall back to 2-3 mill per year once we're gone.
That’s my assumption as well. Hopefully B12 doesn’t sign a long , bad contract. I think the main reason the buyouts for conferences are usually steep is because of the tv contract. Doesn’t really change much of anything else.
 
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yup and more likely triple.
What have we actually gotten from AAC media. Deal? I know the new deal was supposed to be $7M annually but I thought it hadn’t actually ramped to there yet. Last I heard it was $3-4, with more money back loaded.
 
What have we actually gotten from AAC media. Deal? I know the new deal was supposed to be $7M annually but I thought it hadn’t actually ramped to there yet. Last I heard it was $3-4, with more money back loaded.
I think it was $5 mill in year one but $7 mill this year.
 
What have we actually gotten from AAC media. Deal? I know the new deal was supposed to be $7M annually but I thought it hadn’t actually ramped to there yet. Last I heard it was $3-4, with more money back loaded.
It’s was 7 mil a year for a couple teams. Most teams did not get it.
 
Um...lots of bad guesses all around. The AVERAGE TV revenue over the 12 year AAC contract was $7 million per year per team. We are only in the SECOND year of the 12 year contract and are nowhere close to the $7 million per year in TV money yet. Probably only $4 - $4.5 million in TV money this year.

In 2018 - 2019 athletic year, UCF received about $7.47 million total conference revenue. Conference revenue is composed mostly of TV revenue, NCAA basketball credits, and The AAC share of College football playoff distributions.

Based on comments from multiple different people, we should receive between $16 - $21 million per year total conference distribution in our first two years in the B12....2023-2024 & 2024-2025. After that, when the New B12 TV contract kicks in, UCF will receive a full (normal) share of B12 distributions.
 
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Based on comments from multiple different people, we should receive between $16 - $21 million per year total conference distribution in our first two years in the B12....2023-2024 & 2024-2025.
Yep, up to or around $20M, although there should be $5M more for direct media rights. That's something we don't have in the AAC, but we will in the Big XII. So $21-24M overall isn't unexpected.

In any case, it's 3x as much. The 'negotiated exit' will basically mean we'll be penalized 2/3rds, and left with our first Big XII payout being a net of what we would have received if we were in the AAC.

I.e., $14-17M exit, with $21-24 new revenue, so roughly $7M net for 2023-2024.

After that, when the New B12 TV contract kicks in, UCF will receive a full (normal) share of B12 distributions.
Which are predicted to be over $25M plus the direct media rights, pushing us over $30M, based on the current ESPN rates based on viewership for the former, as well as expectations in the latter.
 
Um...lots of bad guesses all around. The AVERAGE TV revenue over the 12 year AAC contract was $7 million per year per team. We are only in the SECOND year of the 12 year contract and are nowhere close to the $7 million per year in TV money yet. Probably only $4 - $4.5 million in TV money this year.

In 2018 - 2019 athletic year, UCF received about $7.47 million total conference revenue. Conference revenue is composed mostly of TV revenue, NCAA basketball credits, and The AAC share of College football playoff distributions.

Based on comments from multiple different people, we should receive between $16 - $21 million per year total conference distribution in our first two years in the B12....2023-2024 & 2024-2025. After that, when the New B12 TV contract kicks in, UCF will receive a full (normal) share of B12 distributions.
I'm looking for the article I read about this a few years ago. Do you have any links you can share on this?
 
Most articles I read said around 15 mil after Texas and Oklahoma left.
That was what was said, but also NBC CBS and Fox want to bid for more games. Including for big 10. So they are expecting 26 to 35 million.. There will be a bidding war for sure..ESPN must bid as well or risk losing its control over CFB.
 
Yep, up to or around $20M, although there should be $5M more for direct media rights. That's something we don't have in the AAC, but we will in the Big XII. So $21-24M overall isn't unexpected.

In any case, it's 3x as much. The 'negotiated exit' will basically mean we'll be penalized 2/3rds, and left with our first Big XII payout being a net of what we would have received if we were in the AAC.

I.e., $14-17M exit, with $21-24 new revenue, so roughly $7M net for 2023-2024.


Which are predicted to be over $25M plus the direct media rights, pushing us over $30M, based on the current ESPN rates based on viewership for the former, as well as expectations in the latter.
I am not sure what you mean by "direct media rights." If you are referring to Tier 3 media rights, formerly, all B12 teams held their own 3rd tier media rights to sell to whoever they wanted, but that is not the case anymore. All the leftover B12 teams decided to pool their 3rd tier rights and they sold them to ESPN for distribution on ESPN+. Texas still has their own 3rd tier rights...and maybe Oklahoma does too, I am not sure.
 

Better than 5-7 million I guess.
I just don't see the PAC-12 overtaking the ACC or Big XII. I just don't. ACC v. Big XII will be debated, but definitely not PAC-12. The PAC-12 was the bottom of the P5 barrel in Conference Championship Game (CCG) viewership, and even then, the Big XII CCG had more than the ACC and PAC-12 CCGs ... combined!
 
I just don't see the PAC-12 overtaking the ACC or Big XII. I just don't. ACC v. Big XII will be debated, but definitely not PAC-12. The PAC-12 was the bottom of the P5 barrel in Conference Championship Game (CCG) viewership, and even then, the Big XII CCG had more than the ACC and PAC-12 CCGs ... combined!

B12 was the only conference champ game out of the three that had a team that could go into the playoffs.

PAC12 has flagship schools, they haven't been successful as of recent. However, if USC gets their act together they are a massive brand on the level of Notre Dame Ohio State, Michigan. Big 12 needs a program to step up and be a national brand on the level of Ohio State, Alabama, Georgia, Oklahoma, Texas, Michigan. ACC has had Clemson carrying them for national brand recently, but they also have programs like Florida State, Miami (yes Miami would absolutely capture a following if they actually were a national contender even if their home crowds won't show it).

They are programs out there that are like the Yankees/Lakers ect, if they suck no one watches, when they are winning, everyone comes out of the woodwork and starts following them. B12 doesn't have that program without Oklahoma and Texas, while pretty much every other P5 conference does.
 
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