I bet they start out ranked for no earthly reason at all too. Same with UF.
Scott Frost: Do or Die Season
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Tell it bro…WTF??? Frost didn't show a lot of respect to UCF's fans, alumni, boosters, etc.????
Frost announced he was leaving the program for a $35 million dollar contract to go home but told Nebraska officials that he would accept their offer under one condition: he wanted him and his coaches to stay with the team through the bowl game.
To do this, Frost and his coaches burned the candle from both ends during the weeks leading up to the game. If the team tanked in their bowl, you MIGHT have been able to opine that the coaches' double-duty business screwed up the team's mojo. But instead what happened? Frost and Company lead UCF to an upset win against one of those mighty SEC teams who we were told dismissively before the game would make mincemeat out of the Knights.
Tell me, how in the world was THAT disrespectful to UCF??!?
Never understood this sentiment of hate toward him. Most people can’t seem to take a step back and look at situations when emotions are involved. Frost brought our program to national relevance, left only to go to the college he grew up with, played for and won a National Championship, while also getting a $3 mil raise. No one stays to coach a bowl game after getting hired somewhere, they are supposed to and usually required to get on the road to recruit (I.e. Norvell to FSU and Kelly to LSU most recently).
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I respect that Scott Frost coached us in the bowl game. Not many coaches would do that. However, I don't care how he does at Nebraska. He wasn't at UCF long enough for me to care about his success after he left.
I do think he is probably in trouble if Nebraska don't get to a bowl game this season.
I do think he is probably in trouble if Nebraska don't get to a bowl game this season.
frost is always good in my book. how he's doing at nebraska has nothing to do with his time here at UCF. the greatest 2 years by a coach ever. usually for someone to do in 2 years what he did you have to inherit a winning team.
He may not have inherited a winning team, but he sure inherited a bunch of ”winners”. And yes, he recruited very well too and concentrated mainly on fast athletic FLORIDA players.
Frost was exactly what this program needed at that time... A huge breath of fresh air and someone who could inject vitality and excitement into a program/team that had become very stagnant under the stodgy, inflexible O’Leary.
I wasn’t happy about some of the things Frost did and said during and after his departure from UCF, but our program owes him (and ADDW) a huge “thank you” for everything he brought to the table and accomplished in his short time as a Knight.
I have no ill will towards Frost at all. Who would not go coach their Alma Mater. It was his dream job. That said, he didn't "resurrect" anything. Much of that team Frost won with had key recruits from GOL by the way. That 0-12 team was stocked with an abundance of youth and little seasoned leadership. Not taking anything away from the job Frost did but we were far from a "dead program".
You don’t think a coach winning back to back championships is better than what he did in 2 years?
Even if Frost's time is limited at Nebraska he still got his payday. Hard to feel sorry for someone that banked $35 Mil for doing something they love.
lots of coaches have done that (even though you took it to a general two year period in a coach's tenure, i was specifically talking about their first 2 years). larry coker in his first 2 years went to two national championship games, won one and lost the other in overtime, but the big difference is that he inherited greatness and slowly ran the program into the ground. how many have taken a winless team to undefeated in two years though?
Nothing beats Miami AP Top 25 ... let alone 10.
The game was never about which teams were 'deserving' of such a game.
First, most games are televised nowadays so the TV part is no biggie. But I would imagine two Big 10 teams squaring off to start the season will draw in pretty decent ratings.
More importantly, Ireland is doing this for the money. Nebraska -- despite all of its recent suckyness -- has a huge following. Officials are reporting that over 23,000 are expected to travel from the US and Europe for the game.
Keep in mind, this is for two programs that had losing records last year -- and Northwestern, even during its best seasons, has never been known for its fan following on the road. That's a pretty good 'restart' for the country's international tourism if you ask me.
Didn’t even realize they’d be playing a game over there this year.
One of the angles they played up when UCF / Penn St played was that both coaches were of Irish heritage.
Is there an “angle” for picking these two teams?
The 'angle' was to pit Nebraska against a team that would be willing to give up its home date to play in Ireland.
Originally, this game was supposed to have happened last year with Nebraska and Illinois -- then COVID hit and it was cancelled and rescheduled for this year against Northwestern.
That said, NW's coach is Pat Fitzgerald.
And Frost is a redhead. It works!The 'angle' was to pit Nebraska against a team that would be willing to give up its home date to play in Ireland.
Originally, this game was supposed to have happened last year with Nebraska and Illinois -- then COVID hit and it was cancelled and rescheduled for this year against Northwestern.
That said, NW's coach is Pat Fitzgerald.
thanks for the background.
Ok. I just saw it on a trash talk site and thought it may be real. Good for them it’s fake.
Whose doing DC at Nebraska? Same guy as we had? For Frost it was kinda returning to first love. His BFF bond with Chanader (sp?) and personal problems have sank his golden / wonder boy rating. But he’s rich at this point so he can coach little league for the rest of his life after current gig and still be well off. He had a great chance to stay in the national headlines at UCF for all this time. Oh well we’re better off even after he left which is a testimony to UCF.
You could make a case that Chinander is doing a better job at Nebraska than Frost.
Frost style of play doesn't make sense in B10 or Nebraska. The whole idea behind the Oregon offense was to use smaller players and speed to make up for size and talent. The Big has no problems grabbing tons of talented big players
Spoke with a Nebraska fan yesterday at cocoa beach resort. He didn’t understand the Martinez at QB so long without replacement and said the defense gives up too many TDS at the end of game.
Now that we discussed Frost on the hot seat where does he end up next? He's young I can't imagine he stops coaching.
Maybe replacing Dino out of Syracuse, but I don't see that as a good fit. Now replacing Wille at Florida Atlantic would be a hoot. Interesting I did not see any Big 12 coaches on the hot seat unless you include Texas Sarkisian he's not getting that job.
Maybe replacing Dino out of Syracuse, but I don't see that as a good fit. Now replacing Wille at Florida Atlantic would be a hoot. Interesting I did not see any Big 12 coaches on the hot seat unless you include Texas Sarkisian he's not getting that job.
True but he also took all our coaches, wore Nebraska colors to our championship game (the date he announced he was going to Nebraska) and most importantly completely scrubbed all UCF’s computers of the recruiting base before he left. I believe that to be UCF’s work product as they paid him to compile that information. He did some great things for “this place,” and some not so great disrespectful things too.
That’s been discussed since Heupel got here and discovered all the files were gone.
^ This part is petty.
He rewarded coaches that wanted to come with him. That's just a good, loyal head coach.
The colors ... I think it was poor form, but I'm not going to knock a coach for giving a hint of his Alma Mater. I just can't. We cheer on when other coaches do it for us too. That's just petty.
That said, I have to agree with at least some of this ...
Yeah, I had to be educated on it as well. It happened. For those involved, that was just 'burning the bridge on the way out,' and I can understand that view of them too.
Still ... White and Frost worked it out, and he stayed and coached our Bowl. We need to put that under-the-bridge and not focus on it. If White and Frost came to an agreement ... we can respect that and not bring it up.
This is a not a point for me. Each coach recruits his/her own players for their system.
PREFACE: My apologies if I misunderstood your response.
I'm one of the biggest Scott apologists around here, but ...
You don't nuke the DB. You can recruit our own players, but ... you don't nuke the DB. If I did that at a job, took a client list or some other data, and deleted it ... I'd be not just fired, but sued and likely blacklisted.
Not copy the client list, or copy their data, and try to 'take' their clients ... but delete that company's list. Literally take the data at a company, and remove it. That's actually grounds for possibly criminal prosecution, but definitely at least civil.**
White met with Frost, and they came to an agreement. They moved on. That was good for Frost. I don't think it was Frost himself, but someone on the outbound staff.
** Never, ever do that! Ever! I don't care what they 'did to you.'
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The problem is once Nebraska entered the Big 10, the number of kids going there from Texas dropped off dramatically. Same kind of drop-off in kids from SoCal as well. Those pipelines shut down, and those are talent rich areas.
2007; 7 kids from Tx
2008; 9 kids from Tx
2009; 11 kids from Tx
2010; 5 kids from Tx (last season in Big 12)
2011; 5 kids from Tx
2012; 2 kids from Tx
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2021; 1 kid from Tx
2022; 1 kid from Tx
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