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So, what's your favorite bit of USAID fraud?

the guy who sent $100,000,000,000+ to ukraine thinks foreign aid is fraud? 🤣

the original documentation, authors, and proof of implementation is not public record.

i suggest looking up what traceability means, because i'm not the one to debate with on this issue.
No dummy, follow the thread. Joe is calling it fraud, not Marco. I'm asking if Marco is a fraudster since he clearly supported USAID.
 
No dummy, follow the thread. Joe is calling it fraud, not Marco. I'm asking if Marco is a fraudster since he clearly supported USAID.
you're pissy that not everyone in President Trump's administration has echoed the exact same opinions for all of eternity. weird stance to take. anti-democratic, even.
the original documentation, authors, and proof of implementation is not public record.

i suggest looking up what traceability means, because i'm not the one to debate with on this issue.
how's the homework coming?
 
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you're pissy that not everyone in President Trump's administration has echoed the exact same opinions for all of eternity. weird stance to take. anti-democratic, even.

how's the homework coming?
Im not pissy about anything, you are clearly missing my point, my guess intentionally, but not going to go in circles for post after post about it.

As I said earlier, there are probably things that can be cleaned up with it nobody is arguing that. Nobody wants waste, but that's far different than basically ending the program entirely, which at this point seems to be where we are.
 
I mean Joe was just saying it's all fraud, but I guess you're ok with a fraudster having one of the highest positions in our government?

I didn't say it was all fraud. I said all the shit I posted was.

Is there some important stuff that the USAID has given money to? Yes. And there is a tremendous amount of other shit that isn't, which is what I posted.
 
I didn't say it was all fraud. I said all the shit I posted was.

Is there some important stuff that the USAID has given money to? Yes. And there is a tremendous amount of other shit that isn't, which is what I posted.
You never posted that, in fact that is basically the argument I have been making, so if you had posted that i wouldve agreed with you. But At no point in this thread did you say USAID has given money to important stuff and have said you agree with what Elon is doing, which is basically ending the program.
 
you are clearly missing my point, my guess intentionally
I'm glad President Trump has the bravery to surround himself with diversity of thought.
not everyone in President Trump's administration has echoed the exact same opinions for all of eternity
i answered you twice

you're trying to have a gotcha moment, but it doesn't work on me.

the strength of you leftists in 2020 has become your greatest weakness since 2024. its unfathomable for you to imagine not everyone on your team having completely uniform, disney+ approved opinions.

it worked great when biden won (?) in 2020 because the country as a whole was terminally online and exhausted from covid. it didn't work in 2024 because your en masse, constant scree about nazis and "muh transgender genocide" got old to every normal person who just wanted to live a comfortable life.

I don't like Rubio, so I don't have to defend the dumb shit he's said, sort yourself out accordingly.
 
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i answered you twice

you're trying to have a gotcha moment, but it doesn't work on me.

the strength of you leftists in 2020 has become your greatest weakness since 2024. its unfathomable for you to imagine not everyone on your team having completely uniform, disney+ approved opinions.

it worked great when biden won (?) in 2020 because the country as a whole was terminally online and exhausted from covid. it didn't work in 2024 because your en masse, constant scree about nazis and "muh transgender genocide" got old to every normal person who just wanted to live a comfortable life.

I don't like Rubio, so I don't have to defend the dumb shit he's said, sort yourself out accordingly.
I never asked you to defend him.
 
You never posted that, in fact that is basically the argument I have been making, so if you had posted that i wouldve agreed with you. But At no point in this thread did you say USAID has given money to important stuff and have said you agree with what Elon is doing, which is basically ending the program.

I didn't say that USAID did some decent stuff until my most recent post. I said the stuff Elon has found is completely effed up. And it is. And I agree with what Elon is doing in this audit. And it if ends--too bad, so sad. Their own fault.
 
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yes you did, you're just embarrassed it backfired.

your only tactic left is to parse through semantics in a desperate attempt at a gotcha.

sad.

4 years ago, Elon was a hero to the left. He was brilliant. One of the greatest minds of the 21st century. He voted for Biden, made electric cars in which they could feel like they totally were saving the planet, and was Mr. Rocket Man who believed in funding cool space exploration.

Now he's a fraud, not a real genius (hilarious coming from AOC and the rest of the brain dead cabal), and a threat to humanity.

Oh, and last but not least. A NAZI!!!!!!!!!
 
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yes you did, you're just embarrassed it backfired.

your only tactic left is to parse through semantics in a desperate attempt at a gotcha.

sad.
Good lord dude, if you actually read the thread where joe was calling all this shit fraud you would understand the point of where I was coming from with that question. And asking you a question isn't a gotcha, you can answer it however you want, which you did.
 
4 years ago, Elon was a hero to the left. He was brilliant. One of the greatest minds of the 21st century. He voted for Biden, made electric cars in which they could feel like they totally were saving the planet, and was Mr. Rocket Man who believed in funding cool space exploration.

Now he's a fraud, not a real genius (hilarious coming from AOC and the rest of the brain dead cabal), and a threat to humanity.

Oh, and last but not least. A NAZI!!!!!!!!!
If he would stick to the tech stuff he would still be a hero to the left. The fact he began wanting power and to run our entire government with some pretty drastic stuff is a lot different than where he used to be, or maybe he was there and just not obvious about it, who knows.

I'm not saying elon is a nazi, but you know damn well that looked just like a nazi salute. Whether he is just awkward or was trolling ( which trolling with that is pretty bad too) doesn't change the fact it looked just like a nazi salute, and you know exactly how it looked. And if you do what looks exactly like a nazi salute at a major political event, people are gonna have questions.
 
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Good lord dude, if you actually read the thread where joe was calling all this shit fraud you would understand the point of where I was coming from with that question. And asking you a question isn't a gotcha, you can answer it however you want, which you did.
Feigning outrage then trying to have a meta discussion on the discussion is another losing tactic.

Did you learn nothing from your ex-bf @DaShuckster ?

Sorry your question was so stupid it derailed your train of thought.
 
If he would stick to the tech stuff he would still be a hero to the left. The fact he began wanting power and to run our entire government with some pretty drastic stuff is a lot different than where he used to be, or maybe he was there and just not obvious about it, who knows.

I'm not saying elon is a nazi, but you know damn well that looked just like a nazi salute. Whether he is just awkward or was trolling ( which trolling with that is pretty bad too) doesn't change the fact it looked just like a nazi salute, and you know exactly how it looked. And if you do what looks exactly like a nazi salute at a major political event, people are gonna have questions.
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BIG MAD!!!!
 
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BIG MAD!!!!
Again, you are missing the point. Nobody is against stopping government corruption or waste, we are against one guy having this much seemingly unchecked power. You are also apparently a lot more trusting of Elon than I am. I assure you there is something in this for him and he isn't just doing out of the goodness of his heart.

this post from Mark Cuban more or less outlines peoples concerns.
 
Again, you are missing the point. Nobody is against stopping government corruption or waste, we are against one guy having this much seemingly unchecked power. You are also apparently a lot more trusting of Elon than I am. I assure you there is something in this for him and he isn't just doing out of the goodness of his heart.

this post from Mark Cuban more or less outlines peoples concerns.

Haven't missed the point at all.

You want the House to investigate this shit. Or better yet, the government to investigate government waste.

Yeap. That always goes reaaaaaaaal well. It's gone EXCEPTIONALLY WELL for the past 30 years.
 
Haven't missed the point at all.

You want the House to investigate this shit. Or better yet, the government to investigate government waste.

Yeap. That always goes reaaaaaaaal well. It's gonna EXCEPTIONALLY WELL for the past 30 years.
If it hasn't gone well it's because we are voting in the wrong people. The solution isn't to hand it all over to one guy and give him unchecked power, that is completely against the ideals of our country since the day it was founded. The solution is to vote in better people, and to vote out the bad people. We, as voters, have responsibility in it not going well too, but taking a blowtorch to the entire thing is not the way to fix it.
 
If it hasn't gone well it's because we are voting in the wrong people. The solution isn't to hand it all over to one guy and give him unchecked power, that is completely against the ideals of our country since the day it was founded. The solution is to vote in better people, and to vote out the bad people. We, as voters, have responsibility in it not going well too, but taking a blowtorch to the entire thing is not the way to fix it.

Yeah, how is all that working????

Guarantee you if Joe Biden had hired Elon to find shit that exposed government fraud, you and the rest of the left would have declared him a genius.

Now, before you say "Biden never would have done that!!!" you were probably among the many on the left (including Biden) who screeched that preemptive pardons were admissions of guilt---until you stayed quiet as the grave when Joe did it for his entire family on the day of Trump's inauguration...
 
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