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This is the Right's Worst Nightmare

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As if this pandemic wasn't God-awful enough for ALL of us, it's become increasingly clear that this crisis has turned into the Right's worst nightmare.
  • They laugh at all those "gloom and doom" scientists who tell us we need to be prepared for their 'crazy sci-fi' scenarios, whether it's about viruses, our nuclear waste dumps, or climate change -- until one bites us in the butt.
  • They delight in talking about rugged individualism and "not needing no stinkin' Government" -- until we're all depending on our Government.
  • They laugh at the Defense Production Act because the private sector has proven they'll step up and volunteer without it -- until our need for masks and ventilators rises to crisis-levels and Trump gets so pissed off with the lack of production and actually enacts it with General Motors.
  • They tout their "pro-life" credentials -- until it comes to kick-starting our economy while our nation's virus infection rate is still increasing.
  • They sneer at anything that smacks of socialism--until everybody needs help and all of us working together becomes the rule of the day.
 
So you want the entire US shut down for God knows how long. Then blame others for the economy/layoffs. Just pretend your not deep in TDS or partisan talking points.

Everyone wants the economy to be up and running as soon as it possibly can be. We also dont want the virus to continue to spread to the point that our healthcare system is overloaded all over the place and even more people are getting sick and dying. The other thing you arent acknowledging, is if the virus essentially goes unchecked because we just go back to our lives as normal, the economy is still going to struggle because people who dont want to get sick arent going to go out eat, travel, etc. i get you wont actually address any of this and will just stick to your "TDS" tourette's, but your "TDS" tourette's doesnt change the reality of the situation.
 
So you want the entire US shut down for God knows how long.
Nobody wants the economy to take the hit it's taking, especially me as I look at my financial accounts. But talking about jump-starting the economy when we're still in the relatively early stages of the virus spread is lunacy.
 
TDS does apply in some scenarios; however, it also becomes a low-IQ cop out and a default go-to when a Trump nuthugger is backed against the wall.

In essence, "TDS" is the right's version of the left's screaming "RACIST!!!!!!!!!!!!" when the latter runs out of arguing points.

I know, I know: TDS is extremely different and 100% applies 100% of the time. Please tell me more. I am so got damn intrigued...
 
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Once again, Cubs and retired Shookster don’t give one shit about the economy, because they obviously don’t need to work or it doesn’t effect them

The lockdown has not been effective because Democrats like Cuomo care more about hurting the feelings of his fellow New Yorkers than completely shutting down the biggest hotspot in America

Once again, they rather Americans die than do anything that Trump wants

Proof point #3
 
As if this pandemic wasn't God-awful enough for ALL of us, it's become increasingly clear that this crisis has turned into the Right's worst nightmare.
  • They laugh at all those "gloom and doom" scientists who tell us we need to be prepared for their 'crazy sci-fi' scenarios, whether it's about viruses, our nuclear waste dumps, or climate change -- until one bites us in the butt.
  • They delight in talking about rugged individualism and "not needing no stinkin' Government" -- until we're all depending on our Government.
  • They laugh at the Defense Production Act because the private sector has proven they'll step up and volunteer without it -- until our need for masks and ventilators rises to crisis-levels and Trump gets so pissed off with the lack of production and actually enacts it with General Motors.
  • They tout their "pro-life" credentials -- until it comes to kick-starting our economy while our nation's virus infection rate is still increasing.
  • They sneer at anything that smacks of socialism--until everybody needs help and all of us working together becomes the rule of the day.

#1 - depends what you're referring with the gloom and doom. I've seen people toss around this could kill 25% of the world's population. Yes that is gloom and doom nonsense. I've seen quotes on this board about killing off 10,000,000 in the US. Not happening.

#2 - nobody said the government has no roll. Dramatic. Private industry is leading the innovation and supply chain. If there are possible solutions, you can bet private industry will work faster and smarter.

#3. Private industry hasn't stepped up? Jesus...you have companies working around the clock for new instant covid tests, medicine, supplies. Companies donating medicine and other items. Companies retooling to supply hand sanitizer for free. Go on and on.

#4 pro life - what are you talking about? I said from the beginning that the sick and old need to quarantine. Have services to make sure they get supplies to them without going out. The younger healthy folks have such a small chance of dying and if we can practice distancing and limit large gathering that would continue to help.

#5 you realize the government only exists because of the individuals/companies and frankly the 51% actually paying taxes. Of course there is a need when the government shuts down everything. That seems a bit obvious when the government shuts everything down that you might need help. Hard to blame that on capitalism but you will.
 
This is a nightmare in general. Right, left, or otherwise. Yes the Dems may come out well here, and we will join all the Socialist medicine countries who are having much more trouble than us adjusting to the problem.
 
Once again, Cubs and retired Shookster don’t give one shit about the economy
The virus infection rate in this country IS STILL GOING UP for crying out loud.

We all need the economy to rev back up but most sane, intelligent people know that this is not the time to do it.
 
The virus infection rate in this country IS STILL GOING UP for crying out loud.

We all need the economy to rev back up but most sane, intelligent people know that this is not the time to do it.
I’m 100% aware that it’s still going up DESPITE ANY LOCKDOWN measures. Are you not aware that it’s not working partially because dipshit Cuomo basically blocked it from the epicenter. It’s been going on for weeks. Additionally, the dumbshit governor in Florida has had his head up his ass for weeks. That’s not on Trump.

All this Tom Foolery as the economy tanks anyway
 
Private industry hasn't stepped up? Jesus...you have companies working around the clock for new instant covid tests, medicine, supplies.
I don't want to downplay in any way, shape, and form, the countless volunteer activities that individual people and businesses are doing.

This particular part of my OP was referring to the Defense Production Act that is designed to mobilize large and small industries to help in very specific ways.

We do not have anywhere close to the number of masks, gowns, gloves and respirators that is need for this crisis. If the DPA had been enacted weeks ago, we would at least be on our way to addressing this critical need. But the WH was obviously concerned with anything that smacked at governmental-control of the private sector (that's something socialist Dems do, not private business champions.)

So as things stand, we're screwed.
 
Once again, Cubs and retired Shookster don’t give one shit about the economy, because they obviously don’t need to work or it doesn’t effect them

The lockdown has not been effective because Democrats like Cuomo care more about hurting the feelings of his fellow New Yorkers than completely shutting down the biggest hotspot in America

Once again, they rather Americans die than do anything that Trump wants

Proof point #3

Going to back to life as normal too soon would literally cause more people to die. Nothing you post makes a damn bit of sense. I know I know, I just have TDS or whatever dumbass slogan you want to trot out.
 
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Going to back to life as normal too soon would literally cause more people to die. Nothing you post makes a damn bit of sense. I know I know, I just have TDS or whatever dumbass slogan you want to trot out.
Nothing you post holds any weight, because it’s all Anti-Trump biased. Are you not aware that Cuomo doesn’t want to have a full scale lockdown on NYC? Are you not aware that it’s the epicenter? Are you not aware present measures aren’t working.

Get your head out of your ass
 
Going to back to life as normal too soon would literally cause more people to die. Nothing you post makes a damn bit of sense. I know I know, I just have TDS or whatever dumbass slogan you want to trot out.
State Total
Cases
New
Death Total
Deaths
New

New York 59,513 +6,120 965 +82

Here are the latest figures from not even half a day

Read it, memorize it, study it.

Then blame it on Trump
 
Nothing you post holds any weight, because it’s all Anti-Trump biased. Are you not aware that Cuomo doesn’t want to have a full scale lockdown on NYC? Are you not aware that it’s the epicenter? Are you not aware present measures aren’t working.

Get your head out of your ass

So present measures arent working, but you thinking just getting back to normal would work?
 
State Total
Cases
New
Death Total
Deaths
New

New York 59,513 +6,120 965 +82

Here are the latest figures from not even half a day

Read it, memorize it, study it.

Then blame it on Trump

ANd you think these #s would improve if we just all back to normal?

I didnt even mention Trump in these posts, you realize that right? I think you are mistaking your hard on for Trump as others having TDS. The fixation with Trump is coming from you buddy, not me, I didnt even mention Trump.
 
ANd you think these #s would improve if we just all back to normal?

I didnt even mention Trump in these posts, you realize that right? I think you are mistaking your hard on for Trump as others having TDS. The fixation with Trump is coming from you buddy, not me, I didnt even mention Trump.
You and your friends continue to ignore the issue with NYC and Coumo. Time and time again, you keep avoiding it
 
You and your friends continue to ignore the issue with NYC and Coumo. Time and time again, you keep avoiding it
It's the top story on the news every day. How is that ignoring it? And you didnt remotely answer my question.
 
Schizophrenia on full display in the same post:
The lockdown has not been effective because Democrats like Cuomo care more about hurting the feelings of his fellow New Yorkers than completely shutting down the biggest hotspot in America
Shame on those clueless Democrats for not completely shutting down the country!
Once again, Cubs and retired Shookster don’t give one shit about the economy, because they obviously don’t need to work or it doesn’t effect them
Shame on those lazy Democrats for staying at home and not giving a sh*t about this country's economy
Once again, they rather Americans die than do anything that Trump wants
Yeah, shame on those evil Democrats and their hate, right?
 
So you dont think cases would increase in those areas?
Maybe or maybe not. We don’t need to lockdown a remote area with under 100 cases like we SHOULD be doing with NYC

All of this talk is a waste of time, because there’s really not an effective lockdown in the whole United States as of TODAY
 
Schizophrenia on full display in the same post:
Shame on those clueless Democrats for not completely shutting down the country!
Shame on those lazy Democrats for staying at home and not giving a sh*t about this country's economy


Yeah, shame on those evil Democrats and their hate, right?
You just don’t get it. We don’t need to lockdown freaking the entire Hawaii like we SHOULD be doing in Hotspots. Again, it doesn’t really matter, BECAUSE NOWHERE IN THE UNITED STATES IS THERE AN EFFECTIVE LOCKDOWN
 
Correct. Any sort of effective national lockdown would require a national mandate from the White House.
That’s bullshit. Trump just tried to do that with NYC and Coumo railroaded him. Boy you are dense
 
Everyone wants the economy to be up and running as soon as it possibly can be. We also dont want the virus to continue to spread to the point that our healthcare system is overloaded all over the place and even more people are getting sick and dying. The other thing you arent acknowledging, is if the virus essentially goes unchecked because we just go back to our lives as normal, the economy is still going to struggle because people who dont want to get sick arent going to go out eat, travel, etc. i get you wont actually address any of this and will just stick to your "TDS" tourette's, but your "TDS" tourette's doesnt change the reality of the situation.
I'm going to go on record and predict that no matter what measures are taken, our healthcare industry will NOT be overloaded.
 
I don't want to downplay in any way, shape, and form, the countless volunteer activities that individual people and businesses are doing.

This particular part of my OP was referring to the Defense Production Act that is designed to mobilize large and small industries to help in very specific ways.

We do not have anywhere close to the number of masks, gowns, gloves and respirators that is need for this crisis. If the DPA had been enacted weeks ago, we would at least be on our way to addressing this critical need. But the WH was obviously concerned with anything that smacked at governmental-control of the private sector (that's something socialist Dems do, not private business champions.)

So as things stand, we're screwed.
Define: "we're screwed". Dont leave this as some immeasurable metric that you can redefine later, what does it mean?
 
This whole thread is about Trump and dividing the country. Shocking who posted it
 
You do know that the airlines are still running, right?

You do know that we have various means for interstate transportation at our disposal, right?
Stupid Coumo won’t agree to block flights

Most unnecessary interstate travel needs to stop. Starting with NEW York
 
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