So he used the same loopholes and laws that any smart business person would use. What's the problem? He should be donating extra money to the government?
RTFA - it's not quite legal.So he used the same loopholes and laws that any smart business person would use. What's the problem? He should be donating extra money to the government?
RTFA - it's not quite legal.
I lost count of the "could haves" and "apparently" used in the poorly written article. That is not journalism, that is conjecture. Also, you said he was fast and lose with development, something you apparently know nothing about. Go look at the moves Simon Property Group has done over the past twenty years or for that matter General Growth, Vornado or any other major REIT. Educate yourself before you just cut and paste an article from a moron.
Just because everyone is doing unethical things in REIT doesn't make it right.I lost count of the "could haves" and "apparently" used in the poorly written article. That is not journalism, that is conjecture. Also, you said he was fast and lose with development, something you apparently know nothing about. Go look at the moves Simon Property Group has done over the past twenty years or for that matter General Growth, Vornado or any other major REIT. Educate yourself before you just cut and paste an article from a moron.
No. It wasn't legal in 1995 and it isn't legal now.It was at the time. He'd have been run out of his company if he was just giving free money to the government.
No. It wasn't legal in 1995 and it isn't legal now.
In 1984Where does it say that? Can you cite the laws?
The article says - "a practice that has since been explicitly outlawed".
In 1984
"Kleinbard and his colleagues developed an early version of the maneuver, sometimes called a “stock-for-debt swap,” more than three decades ago when he worked for Salomon Brothers. He recalled using it to engineer roughly 75 deals for the firm's corporate clients in about a year-and-a half. Business was good until 1984, when Congress mostly shut down the practice. It was, Kleinbard admitted, clearly an abuse of the system."
There is no such thing as unethical in business mess, it's either legal or illegal.Just because everyone is doing unethical things in REIT doesn't make it right.
And for those who think I'm only bashing Trump, here's a pretty damning video on HillBilly's top aide and potential WH COS.
Wow. Just wow. No wonder you're voting for Trump.There is no such thing as unethical in business mess, it's either legal or illegal.
Whatever. I have said many many times, I'm not voting for HillBilly. She's a POS too. I can't vote fer her and I can't vote for Trump. This election sucks. What I'm doing is pointing out that both candidates are unscrupulous, unethical, full of shit, and potentially terrible choices for President. No matter what happens next week, I'll be ashamed to be an American.Carbob just say you are voting for Hillary because you don't like Trump and You dgaf about the laws she has broken, the people who were thrown off cliffs or shot twice in the back of the head as assisted suicide and you will garner more respect. What you are doing now is sad
He only justifies Clinton and only rips on Trump. Shocking we would get that opinion of himexcept for the fact you are bending over backwards to complain about Trump and appear to defend Hillary at times. Those tend to sound more like endorsements to me.
Seriously, we hear all day long how bad of a guy Trump is from the mass media all without a peep of how bad Hillary actually is. You just sound like another person just trying to help elect the single most corrupt politician in 40 years, possibly ever.
Please point to a post where I defended Hillary.except for the fact you are bending over backwards to complain about Trump and appear to defend Hillary at times. Those tend to sound more like endorsements to me.
Seriously, we hear all day long how bad of a guy Trump is from the mass media all without a peep of how bad Hillary actually is. You just sound like another person just trying to help elect the single most corrupt politician in 40 years, possibly ever.
Wrong. Trumpers only gonna read what they want to. Never mind the facts.He only justifies Clinton and only rips on Trump. Shocking we would get that opinion of him
I am absolutely correctWrong. Trumpers only gonna read what they want to. Never mind the facts.
Please point to a post where I defended Hillary.
It doesn't have to be classified to violate a court order.
So tired of the uranium deal talking point which is totally false. http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-uranium-russia-deal/
Yeah, she's a political crook. No doubt. But that deal is about the same as the Dubai Ports deal during the Bush Administration.
And again, Trump has never been entrusted with national secrets or nuclear policy, or any foreign policy at all. That wasn't anything to do with his career or his businesses. Now the salesman/developer wants to be a politician and be able to do those kind of things. Maybe he'll be virtuous, but maybe he won't. He hasn't shown to be virtuous in some of his business dealings.
No. No it isn't. It's much more like Dubai Ports.
And he hasn't because he hasn't had an opportunity to try.
No. No it isn't. You're inferring something that isn't there.Pretty much every post in this thread. Anything Hillary has done is not a big deal and you provide a liberal talking point of random GOPers that have done "the same thing".
So, tell me how Secretary Powell having a "private" non-State department email server built so that the State Department could have better outreach to the community while sending all of his other government work through the official server is the same as what Hillary did?Keep telling yourself that and I'm sure it will be true.
Good job. Now you're thinking.So, tell me how Secretary Powell having a "private" non-State department email server built so that the State Department could have better outreach to the community while sending all of his other government work through the official server is the same as what Hillary did?
Tell me how Walker doing campaign non-government work on his private server during office hours (while doing all government work on government systems) explicitly so that he wouldn't mix government information with private is the same as what Hillary did. BTW, this one made major news and was investigated and cleared.
I could go on down the list but you're not stupid so I'm not going to spend the time feeding your dumbass troll attempt.
No. No it isn't. You're inferring something that isn't there.
See all the Trumpers and HillBilly supporters have fallen under the campaign hypnosis that anything that disparages their candidate must be pro-the other one. And that's what's wrong. People are not voting FOR someone they believe in, they've been brainwashed to vote against the "worse" one. I'm sorry, but that is not the way I feel I should choose a candidate. They all suck (yes, Goof ball Gary does too). If there's something completely and ethically wrong with a candidate, I'm going to espouse my displeasure about it.
It's pretty obvious that I am not. You need better reading comprehension. I attack Hillary too, but you choose to ignore those.There is nothing to infer, it's all typed out. You only attack Trump and if someone brings up Hillary's felonies you just regurgitate the DNC talking points and/or blame Bush, Rice and Powell.
It's pretty obvious that I am not. You need better reading comprehension. I attack Hillary too, but you choose to ignore those.
Bahahaha. Like either of those sites are legit. You're hilarious. Keep up the laughs.Yeah, you say she's crooked. Whoopdy doo. Every Dem voting for her has said that and they don't care. You're not posting new articles from Breitbart and the Blaze everyday about her though. You only do that when left wing media outlets attack Trump.
Bahahaha. Like either of those sites are legit. You're hilarious. Keep up the laughs.
Well yes I'm voting for Trump because Trump is not a crook or has not done anything illegal unlike your candidate. You see what you claim as unethical is more likely what one would call morally acceptable. The problem with that thought is businesses can't run in what is morally right because most people don't share the same definition of what is morally right. Now I've never broken the law in any business transactions but I've seen several who have and have seen those people either get fired, arrested or both.Wow. Just wow. No wonder you're voting for Trump.
You really don't know what you're talking about. You're simply wrong and ignorant.Well yes I'm voting for Trump because Trump is not a crook or has not done anything illegal unlike your candidate. You see what you claim as unethical is more likely what one would call morally acceptable. The problem with that thought is businesses can't run in what is morally right because most people don't share the same definition of what is morally right. Now I've never broken the law in any business transactions but I've seen several who have and have seen those people either get fired, arrested or both.
I'm very ethical in business because my view of the term is very clear. You on the other hand confuse ethics with emotions.
Your problem on here is you speak too much in absolutes regarding your opinion. Everyone else is wrong , ignorant , whateverYou really don't know what you're talking about. You're simply wrong and ignorant.
Your problem on here is you speak too much in absolutes regarding your opinion. Everyone else is wrong , ignorant , whatever
No. I'm allowed to be absolute in my opinion because it's mine. Those who accuse me of being a Hillbilly supporter are the ones dealing in absolutes because they cannot fathom that it's possible to dislike Trump and not also dislike HRC.Your problem on here is you speak too much in absolutes regarding your opinion. Everyone else is wrong , ignorant , whatever