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Not that I’m a big Tucker fan, but conflating white supremacy with believing that Western culture and values have produced the most prosperous and progressive people on earth - unmatched by any group or time in history - is intellectually dishonest.
Who is arguing with that? What Tucker DOES DO on a regular basis is characterize anyone whose heritage is outside of 'our Western culture and values' as someone who "hates America" and any attempt they make to address problems in our country automatically become efforts to "tear and dismantle everything" that requires us all to step up and "fight to preserve our nation and heritage." What, pray tell, is this supposed to mean?
 
Who is arguing with that? What Tucker DOES DO on a regular basis is characterize anyone whose heritage is outside of 'our Western culture and values' as someone who "hates America" and any attempt they make to address problems in our country automatically become efforts to "tear and dismantle everything" that requires us all to step up and "fight to preserve our nation and heritage." What, pray tell, is this supposed to mean?
Do you watch Tucker’s show much? Or do you just watch 20 minute hit pieces put together by someone who disagrees with him?

You just chopped the last section of my comment off because it wasn’t convenient for you to keep it. If it’s really about white supremacy, why does he gladly welcome non-whites onto his show who share his values? It seems like he’s really bad at white supremacy if he welcomes “others” just because they share his values.

Just read through his Twitter... I don’t see anywhere that he’s attacking non white people. Most of his problems seem to be with white “liberals.”
 
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Who is arguing with that? What Tucker DOES DO on a regular basis is characterize anyone whose heritage is outside of 'our Western culture and values' as someone who "hates America" and any attempt they make to address problems in our country automatically become efforts to "tear and dismantle everything" that requires us all to step up and "fight to preserve our nation and heritage." What, pray tell, is this supposed to mean?
Dude, you can't even say that cannibals shouldn't come into our country. I'd say you have no room to criticize Tucker Carlson for suggesting there should be limitations.
 
Dude, you can't even say that cannibals shouldn't come into our country. I'd say you have no room to criticize Tucker Carlson for suggesting there should be limitations.
You just don’t get cultural norms. Like the Chinese cultural norm of concentration camps for the Uyghurs.
 
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The children of illegal immigrants often do amazing things with the opportunity provided to them.

The stance that these are all dirty poor criminals is what Tucker spoon feeds his racist audience.
dirty and poor are your words, but yes, by being here illegally they are technically all criminals.

think of illegal immigrants as people refusing to wear a mask, maybe that will make it a little easier to understand.
 
Dude, you can't even say that cannibals shouldn't come into our country. I'd say you have no room to criticize Tucker Carlson for suggesting there should be limitations.
Good grief....Yeah, dude, I want cannibals in this country!!! 🙄

Carlson's "limitations" consist of anyone in Congress doesn't look like him. Those people, Tucker opines, actually 'hate' America.
 
Good grief....Yeah, dude, I want cannibals in this country!!! 🙄

Carlson's "limitations" consist of anyone in Congress doesn't look like him. Those people, Tucker opines, actually 'hate' America.
Do you have a source for that? I’ll gladly turn on him if you have some documentation you can produce of him opposing everyone in congress who isn’t a white male. Or just white even.
 
Good grief....Yeah, dude, I want cannibals in this country!!! 🙄

Carlson's "limitations" consist of anyone in Congress doesn't look like him. Those people, Tucker opines, actually 'hate' America.
Now why on earth did you struggle so much to say something as simple as "there are some people we probably don't want in this country"?
 
You act like there's no review process for getting into this country.
Where did I say anything remotely close to that?

This is actually a remarkably simple debate to have. You start with 2 known facts that everyone accepts:

1. Some people should be shown preference over others when looking at who to allow into the country

2. At some point, the number of people coming in goes from being a net positive and becomes a net negative, economically.

I think that is an interesting conversation to have, but if a person can't even agree to the obvious points I listed above then they are either inept, uneducated, or acting in a politically partisan manner.
 
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Do you ever stop for a moment to read what you post? What does the question, are you willing to prevent CANNIBALS for immigrating imply? 🙄
It doesn't imply anything. Maybe you just read into things too much, or maybe you don't discuss things in good faith. All we are left to assume by your non-answers is that you don't think there should be any limit on the number of people who immigrate here or from where. Why do you refuse to engage in any meaningful discussion?
 
Maybe you just read into things too much, or maybe you don't discuss things in good faith.
I don't discuss things in good faith? This is coming from the poster who asked me if we should allow cannibals to immigrate into this country. 🙄
 
I don't discuss things in good faith? This is coming from the poster who asked me if we should allow cannibals to immigrate into this country. 🙄
Obviously you don't, because when asked a yes or no question on whether cannibals should be allowed into the country, you refuse to answer. This is not unlike your inability to denounce pedophilia. There's no reason you need to go off on a tangent when a simple question is asked but you insist on tap dancing.
 
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I don't discuss things in good faith? This is coming from the poster who asked me if we should allow cannibals to immigrate into this country. 🙄
Proving exactly the point @Crazyhole just made.

You don't debate ideology, or engage in a free exchange of ideas, you barter with moral posturing. You won't allow yourself to realize a logical inconsistency on your own, because you're scrambling to strawman the other participants, thinking it cancels out whatever esoteric opining your whim has brought you to. Then you get your feelings hurt when you're trolled, with the irony being that its the only way to extract your actual feelings, which essentially boil down to playing this "i have the morality ball and i'm keeping it" game like two middle schoolers in their first relationship taking shifts at being jealous at one another.

pay attention to the way people like @hemightbejeremy conduct themselves, the IQ of this board would collectively skyrocket if the leftists conversed like that more often.
 
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I don't discuss things in good faith? This is coming from the poster who asked me if we should allow cannibals to immigrate into this country. 🙄
The question about cannibals is an extreme used to prove a point. The point being that some cultures are better than others, and that multiculturalism is eventually destructive to any tolerant society.
 
The question about cannibals is an extreme used to prove a point. The point being that some cultures are better than others, and that multiculturalism is eventually destructive to any tolerant society.
Spoken like a true-blue Tucker Carlson disciple!
 
I can't tell if Tucker believes this stuff or that he's making so much money these days he just plays the role.
 
1. I’ve never watched his show.
2. Care to defend cultures and countries where gays are legally stoned to death?
Well @DaShuckster I guess that’s a no. I’ll give you another chance to weigh in on repressive cultures and how they’re just as valid as western culture. Otherwise I’ll assume you believe all cultures are on equal footing.
 
Well @DaShuckster I guess that’s a no. I’ll give you another chance to weigh in on repressive cultures and how they’re just as valid as western culture. Otherwise I’ll assume you believe all cultures are on equal footing.
LOL Nice spinning. The Tucker spiel is that any questioning of what we're doing is an attack on our Western culture and values. When people point out the inherent racism in such a position, the response is to point to a group of cannibals (or choose whatever extreme suits your fancy) and say, "See? These values should supercede ours?"

The reality is that the world is full of good people from cultures different than our own. Diversity isn't something to reflexively fear.
 
LOL Nice spinning. The Tucker spiel is that any questioning of what we're doing is an attack on our Western culture and values. When people point out the inherent racism in such a position, the response is to point to a group of cannibals (or choose whatever extreme suits your fancy) and say, "See? These values should supercede ours?"

The reality is that the world is full of good people from cultures different than our own. Diversity isn't something to reflexively fear.
Where’s your source on “The Tucker spiel?”

“Any questioning of what we’re doing is an attack on our Western culture” isn’t something I’ve ever heard anyone say.

And once again, you just can’t seem to bring yourself to find any common ground. That’s what this is... when I don’t agree with someone I like to offer an opportunity for agreement. “It’s a bad culture that allows for gays to be stoned for being gay, right?” But you won’t even say yes there. You don’t want to identify any common ground.
 
LOL Nice spinning. The Tucker spiel is that any questioning of what we're doing is an attack on our Western culture and values. When people point out the inherent racism in such a position, the response is to point to a group of cannibals (or choose whatever extreme suits your fancy) and say, "See? These values should supercede ours?"

The reality is that the world is full of good people from cultures different than our own. Diversity isn't something to reflexively fear.
Why would you associate cannibals with race? Maybe this explains your inability to answer simple questions like "are there some people we don't want to allow moving here?" and "at what point does the number of immigrants coming in become a net economic negative?" 2 very basic questions that are necessary to address for both sides if they are willing to debate in good faith.
 
Does shook want to condemn the Muslim anti women practices? Like forcing them to dress head to toe covered. And just general basic human rights?
No, “the world is full of good people from cultures different than our own.”

So open up the border and let everyone in.
 
Does shook want to condemn the Muslim anti women practices? Like forcing them to dress head to toe covered. And just general basic human rights?
He will, but he won't say that he doesn't want that culture be brought to the US. The only thing he will say about western culture revolves around crimes committed against people of color.
 
He just answered your question. Jeez you are thick. The whole farking country is made up of immigrants, excepting indigenous peoples. Get over it!
So you're speaking for him, saying that all cultures should be embraced no matter how incompatible they may be, and that there should be no limit on the number of immigrants allowed into the US?
 
So you're speaking for him, saying that all cultures should be embraced no matter how incompatible they may be, and that there should be no limit on the number of immigrants allowed into the US?
Not speaking for anyone but me. Second, what cultures do you think are not compatible, and not compatible for whom, and why? And third, yes we should control our immigration based on our needs and for humanitarian purposes.
 
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Not speaking for anyone bit me. Second, what cultures do you think are not compatible, and not compatible for whom, and why? And third, yes we should control our immigration based on our needs and for humanitarian purposes.
Well I laid out an extreme example: cultures that practice cannibalism. I don't think anybody wants a bunch of cannibals in the neighborhood, so you probably would say that a preference should be shown to other cultures that don't eat other people. It's simply a starting point in the discussion to find agreement on who shouldn't be shown equal preference when looking at immigration.

I think we can all agree that it's preferable to have a moderate Muslim come to America as opposed to having an Islamic extremist, correct?
 
As someone who once lived with 20 Undocumented immigrants Living with them isn't too bad.....Also many that come over the border have engineering degrees and teaching degrees not all but Iwould say about 25% . I used to be illegal back in the day..Those that come over can pretty much do any job that pays. These people are just like u..They want to make money and be happy. More Immigration is coming from Central America and South America. You want to end immigration help Mexico build its Economy. .Create jobs in Mexico and Immigration will stop....All that money and companies that went to China should have been sent to Mexico.....It would have benefited Mexico and the United States..All that money that is sent to other nations use that money for just Mexico help develop the land We have miles of pristine beaches..but Mexico lacks money to grow....China is investing heavily in Mexico....The United states is slowly losing ground...
 
You're telling me that most illegally entering the country have engineering degrees? I find that hard to believe frankly. The stats show the illegal immigration is a net loss of like 100 billion per year. Unless you're saying if there were above the threshold of actually paying federal taxes it is a net loss.

I doubt anyone dislikes Hispanics so it isn't the skin color like some mention here. Purely economical and just reality it is a huge burden to specific states.
Well let's just say that all of them actually are engineers. Is there some point where we get to the point of (x) number of engineers is too many?
 
You're telling me that most illegally entering the country have engineering degrees? I find that hard to believe frankly. The stats show the illegal immigration is a net loss of like 100 billion per year. Unless you're saying if there were above the threshold of actually paying federal taxes it is a net loss.

I doubt anyone dislikes Hispanics so it isn't the skin color like some mention here. Purely economical and just reality it is a huge burden to specific states.
I kinda like know considering I am Mexican...😁😁😁 stats are ehhh over rated...I based my assumptions on my life I have lived...Take it from someone who has experience in this field...Vast experience...😉😉😉
 
Well let's just say that all of them actually are engineers. Is there some point where we get to the point of (x) number of engineers is too many?
Problem is these Engineers are picking vegetables and those teachers as well....but they climb fast in those fields..These guys don't take Engineering jobs here in United States . They usually take lower level jobs and give up on degree....
 
You're telling me that most illegally entering the country have engineering degrees? I find that hard to believe frankly. The stats show the illegal immigration is a net loss of like 100 billion per year. Unless you're saying if there were above the threshold of actually paying federal taxes it is a net loss.

I doubt anyone dislikes Hispanics so it isn't the skin color like some mention here. Purely economical and just reality it is a huge burden to specific states.
Ohh I don't doubt in some places it may have negative effect...But honestly I would say other places see mass benefits to Immigration....But Immigration laws must change as well... and by the way I was for the wall even though I know it would not work..
 
Problem is these Engineers are picking vegetables and those teachers as well....but they climb fast in those fields..These guys don't take Engineering jobs here in United States . They usually take lower level jobs and give up on degree....
I'd like to see some kind of citation on that, because it seems like if an engineer can make more money picking vegetables in the US as opposed to being an engineer in their country of origin that tells me we might be paying too much for manual labor.
 
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I'd like to see some kind of citation on that, because it seems like if an engineer can make more money picking vegetables in the US as opposed to being an engineer in their country of origin that tells me we might be paying too much for manual labor.
Engineering degrees are great if u have work....but Mexico has no work for them...Parents mostly push there family to those type of Degrees which create to many Engineers....Not enough jobs for many..Plus the rich kids get the elite jobs and teachers as well...Here I know many that made over 100,000 dollars just contracting people to work here.....So yes many Engineers make more money here.
 
Engineering degrees are great if u have work....but Mexico has no work for them...Parents mostly push there family to those type of Degrees which create to many Engineers....Not enough jobs for many..Plus the rich kids get the elite jobs and teachers as well...Here I know many that made over 100,000 dollars just contracting people to work here.....So yes many Engineers make more money here.
You just said they come here to pick vegetables. I'm confused.
 
You just said they come here to pick vegetables. I'm confused.
Yes they do..All use those jobs to get there feet wet. Slowly they adjust and take other roles. Every one starts from picking vegetables to eventually getting better jobs...They adapt to there surroundings...You have to in order to survive...
 
Problem is these Engineers are picking vegetables and those teachers as well....but they climb fast in those fields..These guys don't take Engineering jobs here in United States . They usually take lower level jobs and give up on degree....
as someone intimately familiar with the subject, this is blatantly false. there is no plethora of Mexican Engineering graduates working manual labor. even if there were, the concept of someone willingly making $8/hr when they have the education requirement to make ~$80-100k/year flies in the face of reality at Mach 1 speed.

but lets pretend its not. if energy companies knew there was a bevy of Engineering talent willing to make less than ~$20k/year this would've been capitalized on long ago.

No offense, but I feel like you're talking about a personal anecdote based on probably one person. I worked in a restaurant with a kid from Mexico about the same age as me in 2015. Said he had an Engineering degree. Dug a little deeper, turned out he studied Engineering at IPN for a year or so before deciding to come to America. Kept in touch with the fella all these years because it helps me stay brushed up on my Spanish. He moved back to Mexico, doesn't have to work a day in his life, never did because his family is ridiculously loaded.

Now that's a helluva story, don't you think? A true one too, but certainly not enough to say "this is how it is for all Mexicans".
 
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