TWICE this season MACK had led us to VICTORY!!!

[ReturnOf]

To all the Heup haters!!

We’ve won twice on AWAY games where MACK started or played significant time.

Enough with doom and gloom....

We’ve won 24 fckin games in a row!!

RELAX.

 

[thespiritof1976]

But ECU and USF aren't Memphis. Wouldn't surprise me if Memphis is favored by 4 or 5.

Need Randy Shannon to call the game of his life on defense. Need Heupel to earn his pay as coach this week.

 

[anon_ki59ERik4csguoSd]

What's Mack's completion percentage? Oh that's right....terribad.

Does he even have a passing TD?

 

[anon_ki59ERik4csguoSd]

With MM, it's a surprise when he doesn't connect with a receiver.

With Mack, it's a surprise when he has a completion.

 

[ReturnOf]

With MM, it's a surprise when he doesn't connect with a receiver.

With Mack, it's a surprise when he has a completion.

What’s your expectation for a 2nd year player seeing first time action?

What was Milton completion % in his first year??

 

[anon_ki59ERik4csguoSd]

What’s your expectation for a 2nd year player seeing first time action?

What was Milton completion % in his first year??

This wasn't his first time seeing action though.

It's not unreasonable to expect a back up QB to come in and continue rolling without missing a beat. That's literally their job. Mack has had entire games to figure it out, but he hasn't. Our offense is crippled when he's on the field. It slows to a grinding halt.

Like I said in another post, if all we can expect is hand off x 100 with the occasional incomplete pass, we're better off trying someone else out there.

 

[thespiritof1976]

IMO, completion percentage is overrated to a degree. Just hit on deep throws and for the love of God no turnovers.

 

[Mikesi]

This wasn't his first time seeing action though.

It's not unreasonable to expect a back up QB to come in and continue rolling without missing a beat. That's literally their job. Mack has had entire games to figure it out, but he hasn't. Our offense is crippled when he's on the field. It slows to a grinding halt.

Like I said in another post, if all we can expect is hand off x 100 with the occasional incomplete pass, we're better off trying someone else out there.

If we are going to go out swinging, it’s going to be with Mack, so we will just have to accept it and support him. There’s not another option

Jones is too small and even more inexperienced. Does anyone really think that a walk-on who has thrown 1 trick play pass is going to all of a sudden beat Memphis in a CCG?? That’s crazy!

We outscored USF 28-10 with Mack and ECU
37-10 or whatever it was

 

[thespiritof1976]

Oh, and I want Memphis fans to talk a lot of shit this week. Knight Karma. (IMO, karma is talking shit and having a lousy game. Not breaking your leg like a few Notre Dame fans have said)

 

[anon_ki59ERik4csguoSd]

I want him to do well. And every time he goes onto the field, I think, "ok this is where he starts to roll." But then it's hand off after hand off, or pass attempt that our guys can't hang on to.

I really wonder if he just throws so much differently than KZ, that our guys just aren't used to catching a pass with whatever action he's putting on it. Whether it be speed or whatever. I'm hoping they can figure it out in practice this week, but I'm bracing myself for more incompletes, followed by hand off x100.

 

[Knight Strength]

It's fair to worry but all of the coaches and players are doing their best. Mack is the best we have and he showed some great moves last night. I've been assuming his throws are off because he's not used to the pressure of a game. Throwing will likely be a focus of practice. I support Mack and Heup 100%

 

[hemightbejeremy]

Mack has played very well no turnovers which were the only things that would have lost the ECU and USF games. I expect a more competitive game vs Memphis and am excited to see what he can do.

 

[hemightbejeremy]

I want him to do well. And every time he goes onto the field, I think, "ok this is where he starts to roll." But then it's hand off after hand off, or pass attempt that our guys can't hang on to.

I really wonder if he just throws so much differently than KZ, that our guys just aren't used to catching a pass with whatever action he's putting on it. Whether it be speed or whatever. I'm hoping they can figure it out in practice this week, but I'm bracing myself for more incompletes, followed by hand off x100.

Brace yourself because we will lean on the outstanding running game and if we put up around 400 rushing yards like against USF should win the game.

 

[2015UCFMBA]

And if I'm not mistaken, he has not started at home. Hopefully, the crowd will get behind him Saturday and he can get his confidence and groove going. He CAN throw, just needs to dial it in a bit. He will have the run game to back him up (both his and the backs), and if he can start hitting some of those receivers when they are open he could do very well.

 

[KnightVision82]

He'll have time to work on his timing with WRs more this week. They dropped some passes on him but get more used to catching the kind of ball he throws.

 

[Retnuhrace]

The biggest difference between he and Milton is the speed of decision making. That’s where Milton is lightning quick and becomes a real X factor in this offense, whereas we see Mack go through his progressions much slower and stare down his receivers more. This is where I hope he can improve in practice this week.

 

[HammerB08]

The offense doesn't operate at the same pace and it's clear that the play calling is different as well. Doesn't mean that we can't win or that Mack is terrible, he's just inexperienced and he's not 10 (no one is). We can still beat Memphis and we need to do it for our guy in the hospital. Everyone needs to pick up their game for him.

 

[hemightbejeremy]

The biggest difference between he and Milton is the speed of decision making. That’s where Milton is lightning quick and becomes a real X factor in this offense, whereas we see Mack go through his progressions much slower and stare down his receivers more. This is where I hope he can improve in practice this week.

That comes with game experience. Milton looked the same at times as a freshman.

 

[knight_tracker]

Folks, Mack will be just fine once the game plan setup on what he can do. He has a strong arm and is a run threat. Watch the running game setup the passing game. You will see Mack can make the throws next week.

 

[Flem3000]

But ECU and USF aren't Memphis. Wouldn't surprise me if Memphis is favored by 4 or 5.

Need Randy Shannon to call the game of his life on defense. Need Heupel to earn his pay as coach this week.

Or the game he called in the 2nd half against Memphis?

 

[Mikesi]

Folks, Mack will be just fine once the game plan setup on what he can do. He has a strong arm and is a run threat. Watch the running game setup the passing game. You will see Mack can make the throws next week.

You know that no matter what, he’s going to get yards running the ball. He’s a beast. He ran for 51 yesterday and USF specifically triied to shut that down

 

[Shark19]

What’s your expectation for a 2nd year player seeing first time action?

Better than he has shown thus far. We have played several young QBs (Aylor at ECU, Russo) who look much better....but doesn't mean we cannot gameplan around him. He needs to be challenged to make some intermediate throws.

 

[UCF0509]

The biggest difference between he and Milton is the speed of decision making. That’s where Milton is lightning quick and becomes a real X factor in this offense, whereas we see Mack go through his progressions much slower and stare down his receivers more. This is where I hope he can improve in practice this week.

At this point I’m just happy to see him go through progressions. We’ve had QBs in the past who would decide even before the snap where they were going with the ball.

 

[Shark19]

Jones is too small and even more inexperienced. Does anyone really think that a walk-on who has thrown 1 trick play pass is going to all of a sudden beat Memphis in a CCG?? That’s crazy!

We need some crazy right now.....

BTW, anyone else think it was interesting to see Kingston, not Jones, finish up last night?

 

[hemightbejeremy]

Better than he has shown thus far. We have played several young QBs (Aylor at ECU, Russo) who look much better....but doesn't mean we cannot gameplan around him. He needs to be challenged to make some intermediate throws.

Didn’t the ECU QB have 3 or 4 turnovers that game? Mack had 0 and a blowout win. Yeah he put up more yardage but “looked much better” is definitely debatable.

 

[knight_tracker]

To all the naysayers with Mack please go back and look at your posts during Milton's freshman season. Mack will be just fine once the game plan is based on what he can do.

 

[Mikesi]

We need some crazy right now.....

BTW, anyone else think it was interesting to see Kingston, not Jones, finish up last night?

Got to ride the Mack truck to have a chance to win

 

[UKnight]

But ECU and USF aren't Memphis. Wouldn't surprise me if Memphis is favored by 4 or 5.

Need Randy Shannon to call the game of his life on defense. Need Heupel to earn his pay as coach this week.

Win or lose next week. We have one heck of a football program and fans base. Not to mention a great leader in DW. Our team deserves a sold out stadium next week against Memphis. So make sure your butt is in the house next week.

Even Desmond and Pollack were defending UCF this morning as deserving the 4 spot if a couple more losses occur to teams ahead us. Everything changed for the perception of our program Nationally after Game Day and the Cinci game. Pollack even said with KZ hurt we look good enough to beat the 4th best CFP team today.

I think Mack is going to be Great Player for us starting next year. Even if KZ returns I think Mack is going to play a lot. I think Mack has all the tools he just needs more experience.

 

[Shark59]

I, like all UCF fans, am devastated by the loss of KZ. I was at the game and can barely remember anything that happened afterwards I was so in shock. There’s no doubt he has been responsible for so much of our success these last two seasons. BUT don’t even think he could have done it with just any team!!! This is a phenomenal TEAM and continues to be, even without him. The TEAM is who has brought us all of the success and we need to support them now more than ever and let them know we believe in THEM, especially Mack! He is our QB now and it’s time to rally around him. Enough critiques and criticism; it’s not going to change anything but might lead Mack to doubt himself. We are the Knight Nation. Step up, support Mack, tell the team we believe in all of them, and lastly, everyone wear a lei Saturday to let KZ know we’re there for him!!!

 

[SiberianKnightmare]

USF knew Mack can’t throw like MM. They knew we were going to run.

They couldn’t do anything about it and lost by 28.

This was a rivalry game a lot of people were worried about. We lost our leader in gruesome fashion. Our boys responded by whoopin their rival on the road by 28.

 

[Knight Strength]

We need some crazy right now.....

BTW, anyone else think it was interesting to see Kingston, not Jones, finish up last night?

Yea. This tells me Kingston is the real #3.

Got to ride the Mack truck to have a chance to win

All aboard!

 

[Shark19]

Didn’t the ECU QB have 3 or 4 turnovers that game? Mack had 0 and a blowout win. Yeah he put up more yardage but “looked much better” is definitely debatable.

If I remember right, the kid threw for 450 and ran for 150 with a crappy team around him. .....in 7 quarters of play, Mack is still under 200 passing yards.

 

[AAC6800]

With Mack taking all the first team snaps in practice this week, I have a feeling our talented receivers will still be a force.

 

[Shark19]

To all the naysayers with Mack please go back and look at your posts during Milton's freshman season.

Except we lost our final 4 games....Arky State anyone?

 

[hemightbejeremy]

If I remember right, the kid threw for 450 and ran for 150 with a crappy team around him. .....in 7 quarters of play, Mack is still under 200 passing yards.

You don’t remember correctly he had 406 passing on 53 attempts. He had 69 yards rushing. 1 touchdown and 3 turnovers. Mack was 12/20 passing in the ECU game with 3 or 4 drops. He rushed for 120 and a touchdown. 0 turnovers.

 

[goodknightfl]

But ECU and USF aren't Memphis. Wouldn't surprise me if Memphis is favored by 4 or 5.

Need Randy Shannon to call the game of his life on defense. Need Heupel to earn his pay as coach this week.

Shannon is our saving grace, His D has gotten better n better as season went on. I can't wait to see what he builds in a year or 2.

 

[Shark19]

You don’t remember correctly he had 406 passing on 53 attempts. He had 69 yards rushing. 1 touchdown and 3 turnovers. Mack was 12/20 passing in the ECU game with 3 or 4 drops. He rushed for 120 and a touchdown. 0 turnovers.

LOL....still proves my point, thanks. Mack hasn't turned the ball over because they haven't let him do much yet....that has to change NOW.

 

[hemightbejeremy]

LOL....still proves my point, thanks. Mack hasn't turned the ball over because they haven't let him do much yet....that has to change NOW.

What was you point exactly? That ECU QB looked better airing it out nearly 3 time the number of attempts but turning it over 3 time and with the same number of touchdowns?

 

[beelit47]

Better than he has shown thus far. We have played several young QBs (Aylor at ECU, Russo) who look much better....but doesn't mean we cannot gameplan around him. He needs to be challenged to make some intermediate throws.

But those guys didnt start looking good until they had a few games under their belt.

 

[jestert79]

I think it's a bit early for anti-Mack hysterics. The kid has started 1 game and stepped in behind our star last game.

Yes his passing needs work and I doubt he can reach the elite Milton level this season. But he has a week practicing with the first team knowing he's the starter.