*VOTER FRAUD MEGATHREAD*
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I posted a clip from his podcast in one of these threads the other day, and he basically said this was the strategy.
Four years of the Democrats blowing up every norm and vestige of Democracy to try to undo the election of 2016 and now they and their RINO friends are going to lecture the world about Trump being “undemocratic” because he’s legally challenging the election based upon sworn affidavits of observers and election officials.
The lawsuits are frivolous and almost every single one has been laughed out of court. Why do you hate democracy?
I have no problem with his team filing these lawsuits, looking like fools, and taking 30 consecutive Ls. The problem is his tweets gaslighting the public, the propaganda press conferences by QAnon subscribers, and personal phone calls to Republican certifiers to ask them not to certify a legal vote. Oh and bringing the Republican heads of states that he needs to the White House for a meeting. If you think this is about “legal challenges” you have missed a lot that is going on here. The legal challenges are essentially over. The next step is to gaslight people in public claims that can’t be substantiated in court to sway county and state certifiers, many of whom hang on his every word like you apparently do.
And again, you can’t be up-in-arms about him doing it when Democrats have done this since before he was sworn in and you were quiet about it.
Bullshit. Hillary conceded the morning after the election and Obama invited him to the White House the following day. There's always going to be a few wackos on either side of the aisle but we're talking the POTUS for crying out loud. Get real.
If Hillary did that she should also be admonished, however I don’t recall her doing that. I thought she conceded the day after the election and didn’t even request recounts. Obama met with him at the White House the next day to facilitate a smooth transition. It’s kind of weird how you would defend Trump on this and deflect to Hillary though. Is there a point at which you think it is too much?
A good portion of the Democratic Party and the entire leadership worked tirelessly to try to overturn the election for more than 4 years. You know this.
But not the democratic nominee or the democratic president? Again is there a line that Trump could ever theoretically cross that would be too much for you? I don’t see how anyone was “working tirelessly to overturn an election” when in fact the transition and concessions began day 1. Unless you are talking about the house impeachment last year which was doomed to fail. In which case that wouldn’t have “overturned the election”. It would have just been President Pence.
Make sense of this one
In sworn statement, prominent mathematician flags up to 100,000 Pennsylvania ballots
Federal Elections Commission Chairman Trey Trainor says new analysis by professor Steven Miller "adds to the conclusions that some level of voter fraud took place in this year's election."
justthenews.com
Seriously, you didn't see Adam Schiff, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, and others working tirelessly to overturn the 2016 election? These are elected leaders in the Congress of our country. If you aren't going to acknowledge their actions and that they interfered with Trump's ability to lead this country, it's going to be hard to have a good discussion.
Do you have some examples of what was being done to overturn the 2016 election results and have Clinton declared as winner ignoring the constitution and electoral college? I may have missed it.
sk8knight is a perfect example of how Right-wing media has transformed regular folks into wild-eyed nutjobs.
Anyone who believes "what the Dems did in 2016" compares in any way, shape, or form, to the batshit craziness we're seeing here in 2020 from Trump and his minions has literally been brainwashed.
Let's start with the Special Investigation. I can go through all of the examples of Democrats presenting "evidence" in public talking about leaked information and then there was Schiff's multiple declarations of a "smoking gun" of Russian collusion that would get Trump removed and thrown in jail. It was non-stop in the media for years and if you don't think it hampered his ability to execute the duties of his office then you're either extremely naïve or extremely disingenuous. Then, when that failed to produce any fruit after years, it was one issue after another claiming criminal action or violation of the 25th amendment or the emoluments clause and then the farcical impeachment. You're sitting here saying that Trump's lawyers putting out theories is somehow worse that our nation's leaders doing it. It's an incomprehensible duality you have going there.
That wasn't about 'overturning' the election, it was about investigating a criminal offense.
By the way, if the 'Russian collusion' business was all a bunch of nothing, tell us why Trump commuted the sentence of the go-between between the Russian "Wikileaks," and the Trump campaign, Roger Stone?
What was that all about?
Just give up. Democrats don't think they did anything other than treat Trump with great respect from day 1. They have changed their reality to match their beliefs.
Do you have any examples of actions to overturn the election results? Not investigation of criminal allegations against a sitting president, but actual steps to overturn the election result and install Hillary Clinton as president.
So we can agree that there weren’t any attempts to overturn the 2016 election in favor of Clinton? Great, thanks.
I never said there were. Democrats tried to undermine his presidency from day one, but they didn't try to overturn it.
Semantically, no. But you're drawing a fairly tight logical box there when we are also talking about the perfectly legal actions of the Trump team to use the courts to investigate allegations of fraud impinging upon Biden's ability to transition government. The Democrat's past actions are relevant to the second part.
Hell, the FBI was using espionage tactics to surveil the Trump transition based upon a pack of lies paid for by Hillary Clinton expressly to sow dissension in the election (all of this is in public record uncovered by judicial watch) . Biden knew about it and so did Obama (enough to tell someone not to tell him any more about it in the venue they were in). I guess there's no alarm in what is done through the DoJ and FBI behind closed doors but what is done in broad daylight is a super crazy existential threat to Democracy that also threatens national security and public health.
I think that the dossier and investigation were Peter Strzok's "insurance policy" that he thought would overturn the election. Just because they couldn't do it, didn't mean that there wasn't that intention.
It’s not semantics at all. There is an enormous difference between overturning an election result and appointing a candidate of the opposite party to the Presidency and impeaching a President 3 years into his term for crimes he allegedly committed while a sitting President...where any potential removal from office would result in the Vice President ascending to the Presidency...the VP chosen by the former President and from the same party. It’s not really close to the same thing, but I can appreciate the stretch.
How about authoritatively? enthusiastically? benevolently?
forthrightly? excitedly? cheerfully? cynically? belligerently audaciously? reflectively? facetiously? shamefully? judgmentally? ridiculously? sarcastically? testily?
Maybe whimsically?
A declaration of intent to impeach him before he was even sworn in probably falls in there somewhere.
Well it came from someone that can actually vote for impeachment, so thats about as high of a level possible.
So this is weird. Why wouldn't dominion reps show up for a hearing to defend their product?
Apparently (I say apparently because per twitter she was just on newsmax saying this, but I havent seen a video yet) Sidney Powell is now claiming Brian Kemp, Republican governor of Georgia, was paid off by Dominion and that is why Georgia went to Biden. So, we are at the point in the conspiracy theory that Trump supporting Republican Governors are also part of the fraud to remove Trump.
I am curious as to where the Republican party goes from here. It seems like Republican infighting between traditional Republicans and the conspiracy theorists is going to be an issue. Trump has taken the Republican party from essentially a party that was mostly about cutting taxes and regulations, to a party that is filled with straight up conspiracy theorists. It is going to be interesting to see how McConnell navigates this over the next few years.
I am curious as to where the Republican party goes from here. It seems like Republican infighting between traditional Republicans and the conspiracy theorists is going to be an issue. Trump has taken the Republican party from essentially a party that was mostly about cutting taxes and regulations, to a party that is filled with straight up conspiracy theorists. It is going to be interesting to see how McConnell navigates this over the next few years.
At this point someone would have to be extremely naive to believe that there wasn't a crap ton of voter fraud that went on. Enough to change the election? Probably not. Enough to take a closer look at things? Um, yeah. 100% yeah.
At this point someone would have to be seriously delusional to believe there was a bunch of voter fraud going on.
Clearly your Right-wing news sources are effectively brainwashing you with their crappola. If you can look at what's been going on the past two and a half weeks and say, "Yeah, 100%, we need to take a CLOSER look at things!", where's your evidence?
You keep telling us that we'll get this 'smoking gun' evidence filed at the very last moment. And we're all supposed to believe that will it reveal such massive voter fraud that the country will stop and say, "Holy Sh*t! Hold everything!"
I've got money to wager against you or any Trumpie who thinks that's really going to happen. This has been nothing but the Rudy Giuliani Courtroom Clown Act and it's only going to get more laughable and embarrassing to Trump supporters before this is over.
It is very sad to see how you’ve been brainwashed and your gradual deterioration over the past year. You used to, at a minimum, offer another perspective that was at least objective. You’ve gone off the fukcing reservation at this point with the batshit crazy nonsense. Maybe you should have some decency and do what 85 did and leave the board. I’ve always found it odd that you spend as much time as you do on here as it were.
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