Where you have to finish. Nothing is easy @ this level on a week-to-week basis.
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Yep...spot on. We can't get complacent. This is a wake-up for our coaches and fan-base. Rolling into this league and being cocky won't get us very far. Congrats to Baylor.
You will be fine. I saw you live last week and you pop. The talent and the scheming is there but you gotta swing with heavier hands in this ring.
UCF is on the right path and I think we in Big 12 country respect Malzahn a helluva lot more than you know.
We’re fam now. Trust the process. You guys will be okay in this league as long as you have the right coach.
UCF is on the right path and I think we in Big 12 country respect Malzahn a helluva lot more than you know.
We’re fam now. Trust the process. You guys will be okay in this league as long as you have the right coach.
That's the thing. Not sure if he's the right coach. I've been saying it since he was hired. He's piled up the Ls since he's been here compared to how many Ls UCF had from 2017-20.
it wasn't easy for TCU and Utah when they moved up and I didn't expect it to be easy for us. but we need to be around .500 to be on schedule though. we can't go winless and then say "oh it wasn't easy for TCU and Utah."
And we certainly should win games where we dominate for 3 quarters and lead by 4 touchdowns.
Thanks for the Dollar Tree wisdom. Nothing is easy in any conference. Good/great teams finish, period. We're obviously not one of them (and that was obvious to us before the season even started). Most of us had us pegged for 6-6/7-5 (8-4 as a stretch if some good leaps forward were made in development, and in a few games things went our way). We have to find a QB (that starts for more than 1 year), we have to find quality depth, we have to find on/off-field leadership.
WVU fan here. We were in a watered down Big East prior to XII.
The following cannot possibly be overstated…There are no Rutgers or Temples in this league. Until this year. We’ve been here for 10-12 years and it seemed like there was never an easy game even in the years we won 9-10 games.
Thankfully, the XII is VERY down this year relative to the last 10.
You and the other new schools will struggle at first. Depth, etc. I really think your school/program has a high ceiling.
Texas football is absolute King. And that’s because offense in Texas HS football is light years ahead of anywhere else. But Florida has a lot of really good recruits too.
The following cannot possibly be overstated…There are no Rutgers or Temples in this league. Until this year. We’ve been here for 10-12 years and it seemed like there was never an easy game even in the years we won 9-10 games.
Thankfully, the XII is VERY down this year relative to the last 10.
You and the other new schools will struggle at first. Depth, etc. I really think your school/program has a high ceiling.
Texas football is absolute King. And that’s because offense in Texas HS football is light years ahead of anywhere else. But Florida has a lot of really good recruits too.
"Texas football is King". Since the BCS era began (1998)...Natties: Florida = 5 Texas = 1
Texas is not king. That title definitely belongs to Florida. By far. The whole nation knows this except for you and the state of Texas.
THIS^^^. Baylor made halftime and in game adjustments and we didn't. This has little to do with being in a new conference and everything to do with our Coaching staff and their incompetence. Enough excuses for Gus and his staff. It's time they step up and win all the games they should. And last night we should have won. Winning is what he's paid for and he's not earning his money. Losing games at home that we should win is not acceptable. If he worked in a private company, he would be on notice effective this morning.
In the Big Boy leagues, defense wins championships and loses games.
Offenses which score quickly -- or go three and out -- put tremendous pressure on their defensive mates. Simply put, UCF's D ran out of gas.
Offenses which score quickly -- or go three and out -- put tremendous pressure on their defensive mates. Simply put, UCF's D ran out of gas.
Sorry. Texas high school football.
"Texas football is King". Since the BCS era began (1998)...Natties: Florida = 5 Texas = 1
Georgia is the best football state. Of the big states Florida is #1, we're the only high pop state that ranks highly in raw numbers and per capita numbers (#5 per capita). As of 2022 georgia had a state pop of 10.7m people and had 150 players in the NFL, 1 NFL player per 70,940 people. Florida with 21.5m people had 185 NFL players, 1 NFL player per 116,423 people. Texas had 29m people and 199 NFL Players, 1 NFL player per 146,460 people.
This is how good Georgia is, the population difference between Texas and Florida is almost the population of Georgia, but the difference in NFL players is only 15. If that was Georgia it would be a difference of like 106.
This is how good Georgia is, the population difference between Texas and Florida is almost the population of Georgia, but the difference in NFL players is only 15. If that was Georgia it would be a difference of like 106.
All fair. GA the best with what they have to work with. Volume of players certainly matters when talking about HS superiority.
TX is the best high school football state in the country and it’s because the offensive systems are so dramatically superior to other areas of the country. It’s not particularly close. Greg McElroy, who is a fantastic color guy, has screamed this for many years.
FL is, of course, right there too. It’s not TX.
It’s not a knock on FL high school football. It’s a nod to TX high school football.
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I don't know why these folks can't see that defense is a big issue. UCF scored a bunch of points in the first half, but did not have any sustained drives. It was just haymaker after haymaker of explosive plays. Those dried up in the second half. Baylor kept chipping away.
Also, fans in THIS MESSAGE BOARD were blaming Gus for running RPOs in the second half instead of running the football every down to kill the clock and sit in the lead. Bottom Line: No lead is safe with this defense.
The light has not come on for the transfers and the incoming freshmen aren't ready. The depth of this team is not what it was once thought to be. The players struggle with tackling STILL and struggle with run fits STILL.
I do agree with them on one thing. Gus has to get this figured out.
Florida has the best athletes but Georgia has better HS Coaching..some of them being from FL that left for better pay and benefits
No State in the country is close to Texas in terms of coaching, player development, and facilities. Texas youth football is second to none. (The closest thing I know is the Gwinnett youth football league in Atlanta, but it would be mediocre in Texas.) The higher level youth coaches in Texas teach concepts most kids do not get taught until high school. If there is a problem with Texas football, it is the players are so developed that they have reached their potential by the time they get to college and have no room for improvement. This is why the Longhorns do so poorly. A lot of their recruits don't get better at the next level because they have already peaked due to the quality of coaching and player development.
Regardless of what these people tell you football coaching in Florida is nowhere near Texas, not even close to Georgia or Alabama high school coaching for that matter. Florida has athletes out the butt. Those kids can run and are willing to go anywhere in the country to play football. Kids from Alabama, on the other hand, would rather walk-on than leave the South. Those Florida athletes make up for a lot of coaching flaws.
Surprisingly, South Carolina and Louisiana produce the most NFL players per capital in the South.
Yah, well thanks for the wisdom. Defense wins it from Division III on up . Many UCF fans have seen UCF play in every division and in every division defense is important. Stop acting like nobody at UCF doesn't know this or that UCF over the years hasn't experienced it. We have.
UCF lost because the defense and we lost because of poor coaching especially in game .
stats don't back it up. Georgia has 1/3 of the population of Texas and 49 less NFL players. that's not like Louisiana's great per capita numbers and ignoring volume. Georgia clearly has the volume where it matters.
"If there is a problem with Texas football, it is the players are so developed that they have reached their potential by the time they get to college and have no room for improvement. This is why the Longhorns do so poorly. A lot of their recruits don't get better at the next level because they have already peaked due to the quality of coaching and player development."
That's A HUGE PROBLEM. we're talking about acquiring talent for the next level, everything else is irrelevant (coaching, facilities, fan engagement). I don't care if Texas' non-recruited players are superior. If I'm a college coach, who gives a shit if Texas high school players max out their abilities in high school (that's a bad thing), I want the talent that still has levels to climb. I'm not interested in high school football in that way, my interest is purely talent acquisition and Georgia has the best talent and Florida has the best talent among large population states.
So you are saying that it is OK for a college coach to watch a guy on film and think he is “Faster than a speeding bullet! More powerful than a locomotive! Able to leap tall buildings in a single bound!” but he doesn't know how to play football? I can teach him what to do once he gets here. Sign him up.
'Cause that's Florida high school football.
The best staff in Florida, save IGM Academy's, would be mediocre at best given apples to apples talent in Texas.
There’s a reason great athletes who have never played football until high school become stars… they can learn the game quickly.
football is not like many other sports like baseball. You can’t start playing baseball in high school and expect to hit or pitch a baseball at a high level. It takes thousands of pitches/throws and swings to learn to play the game at a high level….not so for football.
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We were up 28-7 at half, and then had a 7 minute drive to score a TD to open the second half.
Halftime adjustments weren’t needed.
I disgree....their O scored at will in the second half including on their first possession. Those were halftime adjustments.
It really is true. The facilities, coaching and sophistication of offensive football are second to none in the Longhorn state.
It’s population is just so massive too.
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